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Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?

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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#21 » by The Prodigy » Sat Aug 6, 2016 1:38 pm

I think the decision ultimately came down to offense (Mozgov) vs. pick-and-roll D (Biyombo) and the Lakers went with offense.
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Post#22 » by crazyeights » Sat Aug 6, 2016 2:27 pm

There's a reason the Raptors didn't re-sign him, because his value was super inflated by one good series. In the east. Did you guys watch the eastern conference in the playoffs? It was awful basketball.

Aside from Biyombo being overhyped by fans, don't forget that we needed veterans on this team, ones who could play a role that was in need. If Mozgov is healthy then he could very well be a nice fit.

Also--and I can't stress this enough--Brian Shaw coached him in Denver and he was his favorite player. To me, you factor everything in from above, plus the fact we were a 17 win team unable to get meetings, and his signing makes sense.
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#23 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Aug 6, 2016 4:03 pm

crazyeights wrote:There's a reason the Raptors didn't re-sign him, because his value was super inflated by one good series. In the east. Did you guys watch the eastern conference in the playoffs? It was awful basketball.

Aside from Biyombo being overhyped by fans, don't forget that we needed veterans on this team, ones who could play a role that was in need. If Mozgov is healthy then he could very well be a nice fit.

Also--and I can't stress this enough--Brian Shaw coached him in Denver and he was his favorite player. To me, you factor everything in from above, plus the fact we were a 17 win team unable to get meetings, and his signing makes sense.


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Biyumbo reminds me of Jordan Hill a little bit - great energy booster type player rebounds, blocks weaks side block and wants the starting role, but probably can't handle it and suited better for the bench rold 6th man type role.
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#24 » by BEazy » Mon Aug 8, 2016 7:48 am

This thread is hilarious. Biyombo getting hyped by fans...smh...

Would rather go with Mozgov...
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#25 » by trevm37 » Mon Aug 8, 2016 6:12 pm

Charlotte gave up on him, and Toronto got the most out of him, and didnt think he was worth his price tag.
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#26 » by Frank Dux » Tue Aug 9, 2016 12:05 am

Mozgov is the better basketball player.
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#27 » by Kirito » Tue Aug 9, 2016 1:11 am

EddieJonesFan wrote:The reasons Luke gave for Mozgov (that he's a defensive big,) fit Biyombo pretty well, since he's a shot blocking rebounding athletic garbage man big. Mozgov is more like a servicable center who's okay at a few things, while Biyombo is really good at a two things (shot blocking and rebounding,) and he's much younger, which makes him more worth the years that they gave Mozgov. He's much different than what they already had. I just really don't get the Lakers sometimes, why are they so opposed to signing young players if they're already willing to give out long deals?

Your right Lakers should of gone after Biyombo.. Last year like a lot of us Laker fans wanted them to.. This year I would of stayed aweay from both of them way 2 much money for those 2 who are worth 1/2 of what they got.
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#28 » by MrWaffles » Tue Aug 9, 2016 2:38 pm

Great question.

I wanted Bimbo (Bismack) over everyone. Why? Defense. We have plenty of scorers on this team, or at least they should be scorers. D'loading, Brandon,Clarkson,Randle, Williams, and Nance should all be providing good points for us. What we really need this up-coming year is defense down low. Bismack provides quickness, strength, shot blocking, and sometimes nice baskets. Bismack would've been a great young addition to our young core..instead we gave a four year deal to some has been.

Mozgov for four years may be the death of us. Back in the day, yes he was good. But the NBA is changing and it's all about speed and shooting. Mozgov could have a good year this year but him playing in the West again against more athletic centers doesn't sound appealing at all.

Mozgov and Deng's contract is literally the Zika virus. We're stuck with them for FOUR whole years with no options at all. They will both be taking up major cap space which is not good especially when our rookie contracts are up on our core. I hope they provide something while they are here, but i'm not getting my hopes up too much. Theres a reason why no other team offered them four year contracts..

I love my Lakers and hope for the best this year.. but i'm pretty much convinced we will be at the bottom of the West again this year. We have no defense at all, we're quite old (Jose,Marcelo,Mozgov,Deng) and for some unknown reason Nick Young is still a Laker.
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#29 » by Jody Smokz » Tue Aug 9, 2016 3:16 pm

I still dont think you really get it. Biyombo outside of the CLE series was pretty avg to bad as he was in CHA. The only thing he has going for him is youth (23 years old). Mozgov gives JC and Dlo a real dive option, which actually helps the team offensively by a huge margin. Mozgov wasn't picked b/c of his scoring but that he would directly give DLo and JC and maybe even Ingram a good roll option in a pick and roll heavy offense.

Biyombo most of the time is an offensive liability. While he has some good defensive tools he's hardly killing it on that end.

I do agree that Moz and Deng's contracts aren't the greatest but they are some of the best vets you can put around the young 5-6 guys we have. The next star or stars the Lakers have will be their own. They aren't betting free agency. They are betting on Dlo being the next good guard in the NBA, Ingram being the next great wing and JC and Nance being quality role players.

MrWaffles wrote:Great question.

I wanted Bimbo (Bismack) over everyone. Why? Defense. We have plenty of scorers on this team, or at least they should be scorers. D'loading, Brandon,Clarkson,Randle, Williams, and Nance should all be providing good points for us. What we really need this up-coming year is defense down low. Bismack provides quickness, strength, shot blocking, and sometimes nice baskets. Bismack would've been a great young addition to our young core..instead we gave a four year deal to some has been.

Mozgov for four years may be the death of us. Back in the day, yes he was good. But the NBA is changing and it's all about speed and shooting. Mozgov could have a good year this year but him playing in the West again against more athletic centers doesn't sound appealing at all.

Mozgov and Deng's contract is literally the Zika virus. We're stuck with them for FOUR whole years with no options at all. They will both be taking up major cap space which is not good especially when our rookie contracts are up on our core. I hope they provide something while they are here, but i'm not getting my hopes up too much. Theres a reason why no other team offered them four year contracts..

I love my Lakers and hope for the best this year.. but i'm pretty much convinced we will be at the bottom of the West again this year. We have no defense at all, we're quite old (Jose,Marcelo,Mozgov,Deng) and for some unknown reason Nick Young is still a Laker.
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#30 » by PKABOOICU » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:09 pm

I wanted Whiteside over anyone, but honestly, the only real solid fit that is young, up and coming, and seems to have some talent is Miles Turner of the Pacers, and he's probably untouchable anyways. Its gonna be Zubac's position in 3 years.
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#31 » by TKainZero » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:10 am

Danny Darko wrote:this thread is irrelevant because Zubac


Such a steal
He looks like the real deal

Hope he gets time next season. Center will be packed with players
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#32 » by DEEP3CL » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:40 am

EddieJonesFan wrote:The reasons Luke gave for Mozgov (that he's a defensive big,) fit Biyombo pretty well, since he's a shot blocking rebounding athletic garbage man big. Mozgov is more like a servicable center who's okay at a few things, while Biyombo is really good at a two things (shot blocking and rebounding,) and he's much younger, which makes him more worth the years that they gave Mozgov. He's much different than what they already had. I just really don't get the Lakers sometimes, why are they so opposed to signing young players if they're already willing to give out long deals?
Ha ha ha....the Magic will rue the day they signed him. In terms of what Luke wants to do Biyombo fits NONE of it. Bismack is nothing more than a high energy specialist. He can't function as a post option because he has no interior game. People don't be fooled by high energy players, they have a short shelf life and once age hits them that high motor they used as their "skill offset"....makes them useless. Mozgov is at least a threat that can keep things functioning in a high tempo offense. That alone is why you sign Moz rather than Bismack.

Biyombo was a 2 week hype and Orlando fell for it with how they paid him. Yeah the Lakers broke Moz off also but long term it won't hurt them as much as many think.

Gonna test your ball IQ here....

Both Mozgov and Biyombo catch the ball in low block, of course you're not going to double either with a hard double but who do you flare a help man or sag man to?

T.Moz or Biyombo ?
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Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead? 

Post#33 » by DNP-Old » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:01 pm

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EddieJonesFan wrote:The reasons Luke gave for Mozgov (that he's a defensive big,) fit Biyombo pretty well, since he's a shot blocking rebounding athletic garbage man big. Mozgov is more like a servicable center who's okay at a few things, while Biyombo is really good at a two things (shot blocking and rebounding,) and he's much younger, which makes him more worth the years that they gave Mozgov. He's much different than what they already had. I just really don't get the Lakers sometimes, why are they so opposed to signing young players if they're already willing to give out long deals?
Ha ha ha....the Magic will rue the day they signed him. In terms of what Luke wants to do Biyombo fits NONE of it. Bismack is nothing more than a high energy specialist. He can't function as a post option because he has no interior game. People don't be fooled by high energy players, they have a short shelf life and once age hits them that high motor they used as their "skill offset"....makes them useless. Mozgov is at least a threat that can keep things functioning in a high tempo offense. That alone is why you sign Moz rather than Bismack.

Biyombo was a 2 week hype and Orlando fell for it with how they paid him. Yeah the Lakers broke Moz off also but long term it won't hurt them as much as many think.

Gonna test your ball IQ here....

Both Mozgov and Biyombo catch the ball in low block, of course you're not going to double either with a hard double but who do you flare a help man or sag man to?

T.Moz or Biyombo ?


That is a trick question. In the first place no one would pass the ball to Biyombo in the paint. Second, if on the off chance someone did make such a pass, Biyombo would fail to catch it. He might have the worst case of stone hands in the NBA.
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