ImageImageImageImageImage

So what is the issue with playing DLo off ball with Lonzo Ball?

Moderators: Kilroy, Danny Darko, TyCobb

Jody Smokz
Starter
Posts: 2,406
And1: 1,436
Joined: May 20, 2015
 

Re: So what is the issue with playing DLo off ball with Lonzo Ball? 

Post#81 » by Jody Smokz » Mon May 22, 2017 5:03 pm

Ingram isn't a 2 guard and PG doesn't have to be forced to play the 2. Why can't all 3 share the court? Also when did Ingram become better than Russell?

milesfides wrote:D'Lo is better at the 2 guard than Paul George or Brandon Ingram?

Because that's going to be our future 2-3. As early as this summer, latest next summer.

So ... that's the real issue.
mos_def
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,970
And1: 280
Joined: Jan 30, 2006
     

Re: So what is the issue with playing DLo off ball with Lonzo Ball? 

Post#82 » by mos_def » Mon May 22, 2017 8:16 pm

meetbishop wrote:
Russell outside shooting did not look that good because he is not a good off the dribble shooter. but he is a good catch and shoot guy. That is one of the reasons people are calling for him to be a 2 guard. so if you use his past 2 years to judge him on his outside shooting you will be going wrong. Playing more off the ball, he will be shooting less off the dribble shots and more catch and shoot.


analytically, the set shot is worth higher value to it going in than off the dribble. Its basic stuff, just saying

Jody Smokz wrote:Ingram isn't a 2 guard and PG doesn't have to be forced to play the 2. Why can't all 3 share the court? Also when did Ingram become better than Russell?

milesfides wrote:D'Lo is better at the 2 guard than Paul George or Brandon Ingram?

Because that's going to be our future 2-3. As early as this summer, latest next summer.

So ... that's the real issue.


Ive thought of Ingram at the 2. He would be able to defend it by giving them space due to his wingspan and post anybody. For some reason I see McGrady if they did. I doubt he adds the weight to actually be a 40min per Forward
Jody Smokz
Starter
Posts: 2,406
And1: 1,436
Joined: May 20, 2015
 

Re: So what is the issue with playing DLo off ball with Lonzo Ball? 

Post#83 » by Jody Smokz » Mon May 22, 2017 8:56 pm

Tmac was extremely athletic and agile as a guard. Ingram is not. Defensively he's better fit as a 3/4 than 2 chasing around 2s around screens and such. He also could have serious utility as a 4. Him at the 2 doesn't give him the mix match advantages he would get at the 4



mos_def wrote:
meetbishop wrote:
Russell outside shooting did not look that good because he is not a good off the dribble shooter. but he is a good catch and shoot guy. That is one of the reasons people are calling for him to be a 2 guard. so if you use his past 2 years to judge him on his outside shooting you will be going wrong. Playing more off the ball, he will be shooting less off the dribble shots and more catch and shoot.


analytically, the set shot is worth higher value to it going in than off the dribble. Its basic stuff, just saying

Jody Smokz wrote:Ingram isn't a 2 guard and PG doesn't have to be forced to play the 2. Why can't all 3 share the court? Also when did Ingram become better than Russell?

milesfides wrote:D'Lo is better at the 2 guard than Paul George or Brandon Ingram?

Because that's going to be our future 2-3. As early as this summer, latest next summer.

So ... that's the real issue.


Ive thought of Ingram at the 2. He would be able to defend it by giving them space due to his wingspan and post anybody. For some reason I see McGrady if they did. I doubt he adds the weight to actually be a 40min per Forward
yanuary
Rookie
Posts: 1,069
And1: 608
Joined: Apr 29, 2016
 

Re: So what is the issue with playing DLo off ball with Lonzo Ball? 

Post#84 » by yanuary » Mon May 22, 2017 9:00 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
RKL wrote:
freebird wrote:I am a lifelong lakers fan and hope to see us draft Lonzo Ball. He will fit very nicely with "DLo"


:nod:

People should be imagining a much younger Curry/Thompson duo but with better passing at their age. DLO/ZO can already shoot, give them time to develop consistency and chemistry.


I think we need to wait and see what we have. DLO isn't the outside shooter Klay and Steph are. It's almost not close. We'll see how Lonzo shoots...and how he looks in the NBA. 40% from deep in college is nice....but let's see what he gives us now that it's big-time.

I think it will be good though. Just not sure the Russell/Ball duo will be very much like Steph/Klay.


Not yet (DLO shoot) ;-)
clyde21 wrote:sell high on Ingram, this is Zion's team now, there is no room for that black hole that is BI


clyde21 wrote:bench Ingram for NAW, already a better player
RingsDontLie
Veteran
Posts: 2,670
And1: 1,359
Joined: May 11, 2015

Re: So what is the issue with playing DLo off ball with Lonzo Ball? 

Post#85 » by RingsDontLie » Tue May 23, 2017 2:03 am

Definitely on the Ball train right now. I think he is the type of player we need moving forward. Probably was extra critical about him at first and skeptical even thinking bust potential. But after really thinking about the type of player Lonzo is, where he is going to promote moving the ball, making great passes, making his teammates better with quickness in transition...he's the perfect match for the team imo and I think he pairs perfectly with our offensive beasts in Ingram and Russell.

I don't see his dad as an issue either. He's just a marketing guy. Hopefully Celtics pick Fultz.

One Issue however is I see the Celtics a better team with Lonzo as well. If you see how well they are doing without Isiah, it is because it has become more about ball movement to create offense. Lonzo can probably make the Celtics a much better team. But just gotta hope Celtics stay dumb and pick the consensus. Now Lonzo may not realize this either but it would actually benefit him to go to a playoff team and possibly get playoff experience right now, squaring off against Lebron a few times in the Easter conference...it's interesting.
User avatar
kobe808lak
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,686
And1: 601
Joined: Mar 05, 2008

Re: So what is the issue with playing DLo off ball with Lonzo Ball? 

Post#86 » by kobe808lak » Tue May 23, 2017 1:07 pm

^ Celts are picking Fultz for sure.

Return to Los Angeles Lakers