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Re: Two Max Signings Next Year 

Post#41 » by stan francisco » Sat May 27, 2017 2:54 pm

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The only PGs I can think of that are (or might be) worth your offer are:
1. Curry (FA)
2. Westbrook
3. Harden
4. Paul (FA)
5. Lillard
6. Conley
7. Wall

Curry and Paul would have to agree to leave tens of millions of dollars on the table to leave their current teams to join the Lakers. Not going to happen. None of the other teams involved would agree to the trade. Even if one of them did, the only one that frees up additional cap space is Wall and that assumes that WAS has the room to absorb the cap space. As all of the others make the same as Deng and Clarkson combined.

As for your 2nd trade:
If the 28th pick is the cost of getting rid of Mozgov, why trade Randle? If Randle is the cost of getting rid of him, why would another team trade an "impact PF" for the 28th pick?


I like that list of PGs, except Lillard who plays no defense. Either one beats a no-pass Clarkson and a rookie.

As for number 28, they would not give up an impact PF for that pick. For the record, I don't want to part with Randle. I think he'll be a triple double machine next year. But if we want to get rid of Moz to free up cap space for an expiring impact big that can elevate our winning percentage and help us attract FAs next summer, I'd entertain all serious offers. GMs know very well that Randle is a beast about to be unleashed.



I don't think you understand my points. Bottom line, neither of those trades is realistic.


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Re: Two Max Signings Next Year 

Post#42 » by Showtime:Part2 » Sat May 27, 2017 6:00 pm

Randle and mozgov for expiring
Clarkson 28 and deng for expiring

Let black and brewer go. Bada bing bada boom

Only to be done if we get back channel assurances from a second max guy the way pg has telegraphed to us he's coming.
Warspite:

Prince + filler for Kobe Bryant
To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Post#43 » by danfantastk32 » Sat May 27, 2017 7:06 pm

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Question for someone who knows: So let's say we stretch Mozgov at end of next year....that would be 5 years. Ok....so do we cut his salary in half for 2-years, and then in thirds for 3 years......or is it just 40% for 5 years?


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Re: Two Max Signings Next Year 

Post#44 » by dockingsched » Sat May 27, 2017 10:24 pm

Showtime:Part2 wrote:Randle and mozgov for expiring
Clarkson 28 and deng for expiring

Let black and brewer go. Bada bing bada boom

Only to be done if we get back channel assurances from a second max guy the way pg has telegraphed to us he's coming.

Why would a team take on Mozgov for one year of Randle before you have to pay him via free agency?

This is probably better for another thread but the decision that is coming on if, when and how much to pay Randle is huge. should probably be talked about more cause it's not an easy decision and its the first crucial move this team had to make on one of the supposed young core.
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Re: Two Max Signings Next Year 

Post#45 » by Michael Lucky » Sat May 27, 2017 10:38 pm

dockingsched wrote:
Showtime:Part2 wrote:Randle and mozgov for expiring
Clarkson 28 and deng for expiring

Let black and brewer go. Bada bing bada boom

Only to be done if we get back channel assurances from a second max guy the way pg has telegraphed to us he's coming.

Why would a team take on Mozgov for one year of Randle before you have to pay him via free agency?

This is probably better for another thread but the decision that is coming on if, when and how much to pay Randle is huge. should probably be talked about more cause it's not an easy decision and its the first crucial move this team had to make on one of the supposed young core.

Really makes me wish we had let Clarkson sign somewhere else.
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Re: RE: Re: Two Max Signings Next Year 

Post#46 » by Dr Aki » Sun May 28, 2017 6:43 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
Question for someone who knows: So let's say we stretch Mozgov at end of next year....that would be 5 years. Ok....so do we cut his salary in half for 2-years, and then in thirds for 3 years......or is it just 40% for 5 years?


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i knew the correct answer, just wrote it wrong, it's (2 x remaining years) +1
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Re: Two Max Signings Next Year 

Post#47 » by MrWaffles » Sun May 28, 2017 4:47 pm

Showtime:Part2 wrote:Randle and mozgov for expiring
Clarkson 28 and deng for expiring

Let black and brewer go. Bada bing bada boom

Only to be done if we get back channel assurances from a second max guy the way pg has telegraphed to us he's coming.


Not going to be that easy. We're going to have to AT LEAST add a Nance and a Zubac.

I'm all of trading our #2 pick + Mozgov/Deng for a lower draft pick.
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Re: Two Max Signings Next Year 

Post#48 » by Showtime:Part2 » Sun May 28, 2017 7:24 pm

dockingsched wrote:
Showtime:Part2 wrote:Randle and mozgov for expiring
Clarkson 28 and deng for expiring

Let black and brewer go. Bada bing bada boom

Only to be done if we get back channel assurances from a second max guy the way pg has telegraphed to us he's coming.

Why would a team take on Mozgov for one year of Randle before you have to pay him via free agency?

This is probably better for another thread but the decision that is coming on if, when and how much to pay Randle is huge. should probably be talked about more cause it's not an easy decision and its the first crucial move this team had to make on one of the supposed young core.



I think some team will take a shot at him, perhaps brooklyn. On per 36, he puts up pretty beastly stats, is a good pnr defender (awful post defender obviously) and he's young and improved every year.
Warspite:



Prince + filler for Kobe Bryant

To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Re: Two Max Signings Next Year 

Post#49 » by Dr Aki » Sun May 28, 2017 10:53 pm

Showtime:Part2 wrote:
dockingsched wrote:
Showtime:Part2 wrote:Randle and mozgov for expiring
Clarkson 28 and deng for expiring

Let black and brewer go. Bada bing bada boom

Only to be done if we get back channel assurances from a second max guy the way pg has telegraphed to us he's coming.

Why would a team take on Mozgov for one year of Randle before you have to pay him via free agency?

This is probably better for another thread but the decision that is coming on if, when and how much to pay Randle is huge. should probably be talked about more cause it's not an easy decision and its the first crucial move this team had to make on one of the supposed young core.



I think some team will take a shot at him, perhaps brooklyn. On per 36, he puts up pretty beastly stats, is a good pnr defender (awful post defender obviously) and he's young and improved every year.


i think you're severely underestimating how negative and toxic deng and mozgov's contracts are.

it's going to require a lot more to dump just one of those contracts
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