LOL Stern tries to re-write history

[Biased_Fan6425]

Errr..

[Beethoven]

I don't understand it, as stern once said he would prefer to see the Lakers vs the Lakers in the finals. Lakers made money for NBA. Why would he be the culprit of all this ? Someone explain please.

[TKainZero]

Nothing but foul language at David stern

Litteraly would consider deficating in my own hand and throwing at him if I saw him on the street

[Mindflayer]

So let me get this straight. You eff the Lakers then you try to make a trade involving the player you sent over the deep end and had to be moved because of your action. Mr. Stern you are a despicable human being and should either apologize for your arrogant action or just shut the he'll up.

[AmusingFiddle]

I love to get the inside intel from Lakers, New Orleans and Houston. I bet they contradict this ****.
We had all moved on from this BS. Why, why bring it up again?

Now the GB is gonna go on a rampage bitching about how we need to stop bitching even before any of us comments.


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[Spanish_Laker]

I don't buy his version, that bitch is just a rat who hated the Lakers and tried to prevent us from winning 4 championships in 5 years and he was successful. Rot in hell, Stern.

[snaquille oatmeal]

I don't understand it, as stern once said he would prefer to see the Lakers vs the Lakers in the finals. Lakers made money for NBA. Why would he be the culprit of all this ? Someone explain please.

it's all about context. at the time there was a lockout. meaning the team owners had locked out the players from playing because of the new CBA contract dispute that the players were trying to negotiate.

the biggest hurdles were of course the players wanted to make more money and the owners wanted parity in the league. The Lakers had just unbalanced the league with the Gasol trade a few years earlier and the celtics with the KG, Allen acquisition.

this was a really big deal. When the Paul to the Lakers trade was announced, Gilbert the Cavs owner was livid because he had just lost Lebron to Miami where Wade, Lebron and Bosch had colluded to form a super team and again unbalance the leagues parity.

Gilbert and Cuban cornered Stern after an owners meeting (about the lockout) and convinced Stern to interfere in the trade because this would cause even more damage to the leagues parity.

Stern decided against his own word to interfere for the sake of the owners wishes (his word being that he would not interfere in NO trades because it was a conflict of interest because Stern was also the Leagues commissioner who is not supposed interfere in any teams trades).

btw ironically, six months before, Phil Jackson of all people predicted Stern would interfere in a NO trade when Stern first took the job of acting on behalf of the team owners who as a collective own the NO Hornets and Phil got fined for it. hope that helped

the one question I would like to ask Stern now is why didn't he say what he is saying now then why the "basketball reasons" excuse?

[dockingsched]

Dan Gilbert complaining that the lakers would be cutting salary and thus reducing the revenue sharing slice the cavs would get is the most vomit enducing part of this whole story.

[Beethoven]

I don't understand it, as stern once said he would prefer to see the Lakers vs the Lakers in the finals. Lakers made money for NBA. Why would he be the culprit of all this ? Someone explain please.

it's all about context. at the time there was a lockout. meaning the team owners had locked out the players from playing because of the new CBA contract dispute that the players were trying to negotiate.

the biggest hurdles were of course the players wanted to make more money and the owners wanted parity in the league. The Lakers had just unbalanced the league with the Gasol trade a few years earlier and the celtics with the KG, Allen acquisition.

this was a really big deal. When the Paul to the Lakers trade was announced, Gilbert the Cavs owner was livid because he had just lost Lebron to Miami where Wade, Lebron and Bosch had colluded to form a super team and again unbalance the leagues parity.

Gilbert and Cuban cornered Stern after an owners meeting (about the lockout) and convinced Stern to interfere in the trade because this would cause even more damage to the leagues parity.

Stern decided against his own word to interfere for the sake of the owners wishes (his word being that he would not interfere in NO trades because it was a conflict of interest because Stern was also the Leagues commissioner who is not supposed interfere in any teams trades).

btw ironically, six months before, Phil Jackson of all people predicted Stern would interfere in a NO trade when Stern first took the job of acting on behalf of the team owners who as a collective own the NO Hornets and Phil got fined for it. hope that helped

the one question I would like to ask Stern now is why didn't he say what he is saying now then why the "basketball reasons" excuse?

Thank you snaquille. This quality is reason why I still visit this forum even amidst the prevalent trash.
(Kind of like for example, when I had to wade through the several classless replies before i got to reading yours on this thread)

[playboy jeanie]

I love to get the inside intel from Lakers, New Orleans and Houston. I bet they contradict this ****.
We had all moved on from this BS. Why, why bring it up again?

Now the GB is gonna go on a rampage bitching about how we need to stop bitching even before any of us comments.


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Stern's trying to clean up his legacy and this is a blight on it.

[playboy jeanie]

Dan Gilbert complaining that the lakers would be cutting salary and thus reducing the revenue sharing slice the cavs would get is the most vomit enducing part of this whole story.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/01/27/how-lebrons-cavaliers-lost-an-nba-high-40-million-last-season/#16759e207699

The reality is that owner Dan Gilbert has spent money at almost an unprecedented level. Last season’s $115 million payroll triggered a $54 million luxury tax bill. Add in benefits, cash involved in trades and the team’s share for total NBA player costs to reach the mandated 51% of leaguewide revenue and Gilbert spent roughly $185 million last season on his roster.

It was the second biggest outlay in the history of the sport behind only the Brooklyn Nets' ill-fated $205 million 2013-14 season, which included a $90.6 million luxury tax. The Nets reached the second round of the playoffs that year before their recent plummet to the bottom of the league.

Gilbert’s massive commitment to spend whatever’s necessary to win a title led to a loss of $40 million last season by Forbes’ count in the sense of earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. Forbes is wrapping up its annual look at the business of the NBA scheduled to be released Feb. 14, and the Cavs are one of only a handful of teams to lose money last season. Their loss was nearly four times greater than any other franchise, despite the windfall from hosting 10 playoff games.

[So Gutta]

Stern pulled a WWE-type move, forever staining the integrity of the league. An incredible mistake. He knows it, and I hope it haunts him till the day he dies.

[MAMBAEMD]

The more likely scenario is that Stern panicked when Gilbert came crying to him.
The commissioner works for the owners, and Stern was worried that this would affect his stance with some of the owners (Gilbert, Cuban)
What he obviously should have done is to do the right thing and stand up to those bullies and let the trade go through and not interfere.
His legacy will forever be crap among Laker fans.
And this amateurish attempt to clean up his crap makes it worse.

[ISayshowmee]

After all these years, now he finally came up with an excuse.....and waited till Mitch is no longer the Lakers' GM. Stay retired and just be quiet Stern !!

[LAKESHOW]

SMH

[JohnVancouver]

I don't believe there was any kind of vendetta against the lakers - Stern was bending over backwards to show he was a good steward of the NO franchise, maintaining its value while they looked for owners. I think he was concerned they might lose the city, have to move the franchise without getting something good back for CP. Stern is still touchy about the Vancouver failure ... he wants to go down inthe books as the guy who save the league by stabilizing it

[snaquille oatmeal]

I don't believe there was any kind of vendetta against the lakers - Stern was bending over backwards to show he was a good steward of the NO franchise, maintaining its value while they looked for owners. I think he was concerned they might lose the city, have to move the franchise without getting something good back for CP. Stern is still touchy about the Vancouver failure ... he wants to go down inthe books as the guy who save the league by stabilizing it

I don't think anybody has said Stern had a Vendetta against the Lakers, he just eff us without lube and now he is trying to say we asked for it.

[Pointgod]

Stern is so full of **** his eyes are turning brown. He gave the GM of the Hornets autonomy to make a deal and don't think for one second he didn't okay the trade. It wasn't until Mark Cuban and Dan Gilbert bitched to him that he vetoed the trade. bull that they would have worked out another deal. Mitch was a subpar GM he's not killing the trade if there's a possibility that it can be reworked.

[XXBKXX]

Stern is so full of **** his eyes are turning brown. He gave the GM of the Hornets autonomy to make a deal and don't think for one second he didn't okay the trade. It wasn't until Mark Cuban and Dan Gilbert bitched to him that he vetoed the trade. bull that they would have worked out another deal. Mitch was a subpar GM he's not killing the trade if there's a possibility that it can be reworked.

This. Everytime I think about this whole situation I get so pissed off.
With that said, Stern is acting like a ten year old kid with his opportunistic memory re-telling this story. It's one of the rare black-eyes of his career as he still gets questions about it til this day. The fact of the matter is that he gave all autonomy to Dell Demps as hornets GM and even made comments stating as such. Then the trade happened and Dan Gilbert had his bitch fest which forces Stern to cower like a little girl to Gilbert and nixed the trade. As a reminder, CP3 was at the end of his contract and wasn't going to re sign. so teams weren't necessarily emptying their cupboard with a risk of CP3 not re signing long term. With that said, hornets still would have gotten, LO, Kevin Martin, Scola, Dragic (all in their prime) and a mid first round pick.

Instead they got Kaman, Eric Gordon, Aminu and minnys first rounder #10 pick which became none other than.... Austin Rivers ... The same Austin Rivers who would have been out of the league by now if it wasn't for his dad saving him.

Lakers deal was still a better haul in my opinion. What irritates me the most is that Stern unilaterally made this decision for basketball reasons "as owner of the Hornets" yet the "empowered" GM of the Hornets already approved the trade in writing and was now submitting it to the league to process. Stern rejecting the trade at that specific time in the process was clearly an act of the NBA commissioner --- no matter what he says. Even if we concede the point that he still maintains personnel decision authority for the hornets -- it should then be noted that this is a huge conflict of interest as he was also still the commissioner at the same time. You can't reasonably wear both titles in my opinion. Either you are the President of an NBA team or you're the commissioner. One person can't be both. It's similar to a Judge overseeing a case where he is also the lawyer.

And Stern waiting to cast blame on Kupchak until he's in a position where he can't really fire back is a bitch move. I hope Stern continues to get questions and be forced to answer to this until his death bed. This one decision tipped over a series of dominoes which set the Lakers back ten years AND robbed the last four years of Kobe's career.



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[MadNESS]

I still cringe, maybe once a month, and the thought of all this, and what we could have become, if it wasn't for this veto. Thanks Stern, for re-pissing me off again. Keep your mouth shut and stay away from the game.