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Re: West wants Consultant Job, Lakers won't offer it to him. 

Post#41 » by danfantastk32 » Wed May 3, 2017 3:24 pm

giju11 wrote:All of the championships in LA have been with West spearheading ...even the championship won by Kobe and Gasol were orchestrated by West..he is the one that hand delivered Gasol to the Lakers (since he was in Memphis)


""By TERESA M. WALKER
The Associated Press
Tuesday, April 17, 2007; 8:12 PM
Jerry West left retirement and the comforts of California to see if he could transform the woeful Memphis Grizzlies. Five years later, the Lakers great decided to stop trying. He said Tuesday he will leave as the Grizzlies' director of basketball operations July 1 at the end of his contract. Injuries, losses, weariness and uncertainty became too much.
"I'm not a youngster anymore," said West, who turns 69 next month. ""


""Grizzlies trade Pau Gasol to Lakers for four players and two first round picks
Memphis, February 1, 2008 – The Memphis Grizzlies acquired forward/center Kwame Brown, rookie guard Javaris Crittenton, guard Aaron McKie, the draft rights to Marc Gasol, two future first round draft picks and cash considerations from the Los Angeles Lakers in exchange for forward/center Pau Gasol and a future second round pick, club General Manager and Vice President of Basketball Operations Chris Wallace announced today. ""

That trade happened almost a year after he announced he was stepping down, and a good 7-8 months after he did step down. J-West has done plenty for the Lakers......but he didn't do that.
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Re: West wants Consultant Job, Lakers won't offer it to him. 

Post#42 » by DEEP3CL » Sat May 6, 2017 9:22 pm

See y'all gonna make me get real cause it's time for people to step into got damn 2017 and leave F'ing 1987 in the damn rear view.

First off I gotta problem with the writer of this ludicrous, Mark Heisler...dude is back employed with a paper again so he's trying to get a "break the ice"story. This dude can never just write a straight up story, yet all he does is interject gossip type stories and want's to be in the inner circle of a team infrastructure.

This is why I'm glad Jeanie cleaned house like she did and has continue to do so by welding power to Magic and Rob on who to bring in on the basketball side of the operation. Some of you guys here are stuck in a damn time warp. First off West is 77 f'ing years old...77 with medical problems, how in hell you guys here think he has the energy to go full bore in even a consulting job. Consulting means EVERY DAY details in a basketball front office...not wasting time on a damn golf course in west LA.

Secondly back to Heisler's whack ass....first off it's no way West could even be talked about by Laker staffers or the so called "insider" he claims he got the info from. West is under CONTRACT to the Warriors, and couldn't even be talked to unless permission was granted from the Warriors owners. So this is the first LIE Heisler put out there for sap ass readers to jumper on.

I agree with Jody Smokz, it's a new era, a new time and new regime...let them make their mark weather we as fans have to live with the mistakes or success. Who the hell are we fooling or mind f'ing here ? We all know that if the Laker had West on staff as even a damn consultant, and a move was made we know who's name would be at the forefront of it....yes Jerry's, not Magic not Rob's that's for sure.

Hell Bob Myers is dealing with that now, every move GSW has made has West name as the peddle pusher of the deal. Bottom line here is most of you are scared to venture into a new era, want to hang onto the past of how we use to operate, not even recognize the bad drafts and free agent signings Jerry actually was a part of before he left.

The great thing about Magic and Rob being placed in the positions they're in now is that the targets are up and we're going to see how accurately they can fire the gun.

In the end all of this is moot in terms of Heisler's story, because like I stated Jerry is under contract from the way we all see it until the Warriors run is over in late June. Bottom line NOBODY in the Laker front office could even contact him. The only way such a story could even hold weight is unless Jerry, Heisler and the so called Laker insider was at lunch and this was discussed, until then this story by Heisler is straight up bull sh*t. Didn't Jeanie say she would eventually get to staffers that were leaking stories ? Yes she did because I vividly remember her saying if anybody was leaking stories on how the team was operating they was as good as gone.

Did you guys take notice why John Black was axed ? I can count at least 5-10 stories that got out from under the Lakers that was purposely put out by some snitch in the front office. This stuff never happened in the Showtime era. But stories were slipping out left and right as Dr.Buss slid more and more into the background.

I seriously doubt Magic or Rob wouldn't want to work with Jerry but until there's time to commit to having a convo with Jerry we can't believe this crap story by Heisler...he's a gossiper not a reporter, look at his stories ? When was the last time you read where he broke down a game, used stats to support what he was writing ? He doesn't write like that, never has.

Closing out, the narrative by reporters is that the Lakers are "always living in the past", now the one time that the Lakers are using forward thinking to operate and play in the state of today's game they're some how now punished by a false story by a chump reporter that wants to prove he still is some sort of inside news breaker. Miss me with this garbage by Heisler.

When the time is right the Lakers will get around to thinking about West and if bringing him in will be a benefit.
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Re: West wants Consultant Job, Lakers won't offer it to him. 

Post#43 » by DEEP3CL » Sat May 6, 2017 9:30 pm

giju11 wrote:All of the championships in LA have been with West spearheading ...even the championship won by Kobe and Gasol were orchestrated by West..he is the one that hand delivered Gasol to the Lakers (since he was in Memphis)


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Re: West wants Consultant Job, Lakers won't offer it to him. 

Post#44 » by DEEP3CL » Sat May 6, 2017 9:59 pm

For all you guys here championing for West, let me remind you of the MISTAKES he did before he walked out the door in 2001.

Blew a 1st round pick on Sam Jacobson in 98 draft

Traded up with Memphis at the 32nd slot to select John Celestand, when he could've drafted Manu Ginobili in 99 draft

Traded away our 2001 draft pick to Memphis when he could've kept it and drafted Tony Parker

The last two moves I can guarantee would've kept the Spurs from being what they are, we were winning at this time but you can't disregard draft picks. This was one of the bad habits Mitch learned from Jerry, because he too whiffed on some picks.

Jerry also blew trades too, one that stands out for me is George McCloud...good shooter for Pacers and a total bust once he landed in LA.

Bottom line everything Jerry did didn't turn to gold as some of you guys here think it did.
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Re: West wants Consultant Job, Lakers won't offer it to him. 

Post#45 » by danfantastk32 » Mon May 8, 2017 4:10 am

DEEP3CL wrote:For all you guys here championing for West, let me remind you of the MISTAKES he did before he walked out the door in 2001.

Blew a 1st round pick on Sam Jacobson in 98 draft

Traded up with Memphis at the 32nd slot to select John Celestand, when he could've drafted Manu Ginobili in 99 draft

Traded away our 2001 draft pick to Memphis when he could've kept it and drafted Tony Parker

The last two moves I can guarantee would've kept the Spurs from being what they are, we were winning at this time but you can't disregard draft picks. This was one of the bad habits Mitch learned from Jerry, because he too whiffed on some picks.

Jerry also blew trades too, one that stands out for me is George McCloud...good shooter for Pacers and a total bust once he landed in LA.

Bottom line everything Jerry did didn't turn to gold as some of you guys here think it did.


I love me some J-West. Everyone makes mistakes...but the guy's resume speaks for itself. But I will pile on a HUGE one. This was from an espn article...I'll try and link it:

""The one thing Johnson didn’t know at the time (and wouldn’t know until more than two decades later) was that, in Cooke’s mind, he was merely another good college player in an ocean of good college players. Why, immediately after the draft, Cooke told those within his small circle of confidants that the team could have gone with Sidney Moncrief, the high-scoring guard from the University of Arkansas. That was the advice presented to him by Jerry West, the outgoing coach, who wasn’t fully convinced a 6-foot-9 point guard would function in the fast-paced NBA. Of all the ex-basketball players working for the Lakers, West was the one Cooke trusted most.

“West wanted Moncrief, and he made it very clear to Jack Kent Cooke,” said Rich Levin, who covered the team for the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner. “There was a strong belief, for a brief time at least, that Moncrief, not Magic, would wind up a Laker.” ""

So West had that one pretty wrong as well.

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/39172/the-magic-coin-flip-book-excerpt

That's the link.

Hey......West has done a million things right. I'd love to have him back in LA....even as a figure-head. But I don't think this guy is seeking new employment in the middle of a playoff run. I don't buy it.
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Post#46 » by karkinos » Sun May 14, 2017 5:09 pm

Tobi wrote:
MelosSoreWrist wrote:If West positively influences one major free agent to come to LA, he will be worth it. If he steers one major trade positively for the Lakers, he will be worth it. And frankly I trust Jerry's levelheadedness especially in the early stages more than that of Magic and Rob


Exactly. I'm honestly not sure if he's ever made a bad decision.

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Post#47 » by Camping Fan » Tue May 16, 2017 4:07 am

The last I heard, the Lakers spoke to West about coming back as general manager, but it was stated that he did not share Jeanie Buss' vision. I would love to see West back in there as a consultant
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Re: West wants Consultant Job, Lakers won't offer it to him. 

Post#48 » by LAKESHOW » Tue May 16, 2017 4:28 am

The son of Jerry West is in the front office. He has a leadership position. And shares in Jeanie's vision. Therefore what you are saying, is Jerry wishes to undermine his own son. Lol.
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Post#49 » by gts1 » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:09 am

as this offseason moves forward them passing up on this opportunity is looking more foolish by the day...
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Re: West wants Consultant Job, Lakers won't offer it to him. 

Post#50 » by Dloading99 » Mon Jul 3, 2017 7:51 am

Deep I see why you call yourself Deep. man you dropped some Knowledge. Sam Jacobsen the athletic shooting guard out of Minnesota. lol. he had no chance with mamba. why even pick him lol. john celestand them are forum days. what is funny if we picked Tony Parker or Manu Ginobli we've had 4 more championships. damn.

I just don't agree about the George Mcloud thing Shaq needed a shooter. the reason George Mcloud didn't work is because George Mcloud got fat.

Jerry had some sneaky moves Eddie Jones for Glen Rice. Glen helped get us that championship in 2000. he was a big time shooter. even got some threes going in the Portland game 7 in 2000.


Sometimes GM's will screw an owner into not picking a superstar. I"ve seen this in the NBA.

I think what's so good about Jerry is he speaks his mind and basketball people like that. you can't have Yes men. he has a very good sense of what a player should be.

The Kobe workout right away he said that's the guy. there were a lot of teams that thought Kobe was just some high school kid who was all hype. he saw the star. Very very good post. Magic and Rob will be with the fans applauding and what the fans will want to see is if they can develop this young team into a championship team will they put the right players around them. Lonzo and Ingram. so far Lopez great player. so BALL Ingram and Lopez well see what they do. can these players become championship players. that's what they will be celebrated for as new front office.

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