Gordon Hayward

[TyCobb]

Hayward needs to stay in Utah.

[stan francisco]

Hayward needs to stay in Utah.

I used to say the same exact thing. Hated the mere thought of him here.

Then I studied his game in detail for about half a game. Watched every move of his. As much as I dislike admitting that I had been completely off, the guy doesn't freaking make mistakes. He's rock solid. He made the right decision all the time on every play. He's super bright as a player. And he's skilled. Defensively, not all rotten either.

The only problem I see with Hayward: he's gonna get a salary reflective of being the best player on his team, but he's not the best player on any championship winning team.

So, if we can get him for a decent price, sign him!

If he asks for superstar max money, buh-bye. End two cents.

[Landsberger]

Hayward needs to stay in Utah.

I used to say the same exact thing. Hated the mere thought of him here.

Then I studied his game in detail for about half a game. Watched every move of his. As much as I dislike admitting that I had been completely off, the guy doesn't freaking make mistakes. He's rock solid. He made the right decision all the time on every play. He's super bright as a player. And he's skilled. Defensively, not all rotten either.

The only problem I see with Hayward: he's gonna get a salary reflective of being the best player on his team, but he's not the best player on any championship winning team.

So, if we can get him for a decent price, sign him!

If he asks for superstar max money, buh-bye. End two cents.

I agree. He's a "second" on a championship team. A "glue" guy. In this age of crazy money however he's getting a Max somewhere.

The thing about guys like him is that they are always under appreciated because they are not flashy, they don't yap and bring attention to themselves and they aren't merchandising their very existence..... yet they are really good at all aspects of the game.

[milesfides]

Of course he's worth 30m per. Now with the supermax at 40m, it's definitely fair. He's definitely worthy of being a max player, since you really need three all-star/max players to really compete for a championship. If one of those guys is Gordon Hayward, what's the problem? We don't even have one. Cart before horse, here.

I would love to save capspace for only worthy max and supermax players. Unfortunately, 1) the Lakers have made big mistakes in managing our capspace and 2) we haven't been an attractive destination for free agents.

If you don't think Gordon Hayward is good enough to join the Lakers, why would you think a better player would join? If anything, Gordon is out of our league. So far, we've been able to land only the Brandon Basses, Luol Dengs, and Mozgovs.

The issue is really that our talent isn't good enough to trade up or attract free agents. Our real chance is compensating for bad contracts by banking on internal improvement, rookie-scale players blowing up, i.e, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Julius Randle, Zubuc, to give us assets to make a trade and/or make the Lakers an attractive destination while not eating into capspace themselves.

[dAdo dA dEvil]

I liked Gordon Hayward ever since I saw him play in college.
Not flashy but very solid. He plays the game in a very simple way. He understands the game very well.
If we could have him it is too good to be true.
Not worth the MAX but right, somebody will throw the MAX at him.
As much as I like him I don't see him coming to us. Plus we have Ingram and if PG comes then we will have rotation issues unless Hayward is willing to be the 6th man or PG willing to play the PF.

[danfantastk32]

Well...I'm glad Hayward is off to Celtics. I like Hayward, but he's not getting you a title. They have just tied up a HUGE portion of their cap-space on a guy who's a good, solid tier below the really great players.

Everyone's cap is equal. I get that there are only a few Durants and Lebrons per era.....but if your paying the same for Hayward as another team is paying for Lebron....your already playing MAJOR catch-up. He's honestly not even really close.

Good player....no ill will toward him. But glad someone else gobbled him up.

[JohnVancouver]

I liked Gordon Hayward ever since I saw him play in college.
Not flashy but very solid. He plays the game in a very simple way. He understands the game very well.
If we could have him it is too good to be true.
Not worth the MAX but right, somebody will throw the MAX at him.
As much as I like him I don't see him coming to us. Plus we have Ingram and if PG comes then we will have rotation issues unless Hayward is willing to be the 6th man or PG willing to play the PF.

Me too - he's the modern havlicek

[LAKESHOW]

I've never understood why we were not in the Hayward sweepstakes. We've gotta get stable glue type guys Yes, you need the Shaqs and kobes. But horry type players are very valuable. Especially in a rebuild.

[Sedale Threatt]

I've never understood why we were not in the Hayward sweepstakes.

Honestly?

[gts1]

its now official, Hayward 4 years 128 million with the Celtics...

[LAKESHOW]

From this respect, we've got too much talk about LeBron. Sure, Gordon ain't the end all be all. But step by step, little brick by little brick is what I'm looking at. Not the Steve Nash. Dwight Howard maneuvers

[Sedale Threatt]

From this respect, we've got too much talk about LeBron. Sure, Gordon ain't the end all be all. But step by step, little brick by little brick is what I'm looking at. Not the Steve Nash. Dwight Howard maneuvers

We've got nothing to offer him at this point except nice weather. I'm not sold on the George/LeBron thing either, but at least there's the impression that George wants to play here as an L.A. native, and the ability to sell them as a package deal. With Gordon, you'd be asking him to take less money to play for a guaranteed loser. It would have made zero sense for him.

[Landsberger]

I've never understood why we were not in the Hayward sweepstakes. We've gotta get stable glue type guys Yes, you need the Shaqs and kobes. But horry type players are very valuable. Especially in a rebuild.

Tinsel Town needs tinsel stars. Hayward isn't that type of personality. I really thing the FO is as interested (if not more interested) in making a splash and getting a transcended personality as much as it is in getting really good players. I keep saying this but our owners make a living off the team and they don't know how to live in the real world. This is in contrast to most owners who have their teams as toys to satisfy their competitive instincts.

Hayward, skill wise, is as good an all around player as Ive seen since Grant Hill. Like Hill, he's not a glamor guy and stays out of the spotlight. Great player to have if your are most interested in building a winning team, maybe not if you are just looking to pump up the ratings to maximize the local TV deal.

[karkinos]

gordon hayward and his wife are a really, really good looking couple
whether they want to or not, they'd make waves even if they went to LA

[stan francisco]

He seems born to be a Celtic. That's why I don't think he'll be a Laker.

[milesfides]

Didn't even secure an interview, sacred capspace b.s. Narrow-minded tools

[Lakernut4ever]

Time to lock this thread up...its none of our business...even new recruit boston makes....it makes our situation hurts even more...