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Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1

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Post#441 » by leeprettyp » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:53 pm

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Post#442 » by KobeBryant24 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:58 pm

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Remember back a few years ago when Dwayne Wade started wearing sunglasses during games because of what he claimed were "migraines"?

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Opposing players started complaining that they couldn't see his eyes, which gave him an unfair advantage when it came to passing. He was basically throwing no-look passes no matter where he looked. The league banned in-game sunglasses after like 3 games of him wearing those.

Lonzo's eyes are light-colored af. Like blueish/greenish. Watching game footage, it's hard to tell sometimes where he's looking on the court versus most other players because of his eye color.

Does this give him the same kind of advantage that Wade was going for those few games wearing sunglasses, but naturally?

Jason Kidd has green eyes.

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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#443 » by Spens1 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:46 pm

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how is Ingram only 76 yet Lonzo is 80?

Lonzo is certainly not 4 better than Ingram.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#444 » by Spens1 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:47 pm

Shot Caller wrote:lonzo picked lebron over kobe. time to trade him...... for kyrie perhaps? lol


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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#445 » by One Love » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:36 pm

Lonzo > Ingram, period... Ingram would have gone 4th or 5th in this years draft... Come on fellas...
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#446 » by Slava » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:58 pm

One Love wrote:Lonzo > Ingram, period... Ingram would have gone 4th or 5th in this years draft... Come on fellas...


Why even compare? I mean unprompted BS.
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Post#447 » by AcecardZ » Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:35 pm

We haven't seen Ingram play more than one Summer league game since the end of last season. How can it be assumed he wouldn't go higher than fourth if he stayed in college one more year?

Also, if the Suns aren't willing to trade Josh jackson to acquire Kyrie Irving I'm more than OK with the Lakers not attempting to trade Lonzo Ball or Brandon Ingram for Kyrie.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#448 » by TylersLakers » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:36 am

76 is probably a little low for Ingram, but when you look back at how his rookie season was viewed by people in non-Laker land, I'm not surprised.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#449 » by Spens1 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:52 am

Lonzo hasn't played a minute yet, again how his he higher than Ingram.
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Post#450 » by RamonSessions7 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:52 am

Spens1 wrote:Lonzo hasn't played a minute yet, again how his he higher than Ingram.

Eh, I don't think minutes played is the barometer for how high they should be. As a lonzo homer, I have no issue with him being higher than Ingram, but other than that also a) its a game where ratings are just a cumulative total of stats that dont always show who is the best player to play as, and b) Ingram's numbers were not great last year, so any objective rater might not give him a boost for time served vs. lonzo.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#451 » by TheRealKaboom » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:20 am

Spens1 wrote:Lonzo hasn't played a minute yet, again how his he higher than Ingram.

Have you ever watched Lonzo play basketball?
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#452 » by Spens1 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:36 am

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Spens1 wrote:Lonzo hasn't played a minute yet, again how his he higher than Ingram.

Eh, I don't think minutes played is the barometer for how high they should be. As a lonzo homer, I have no issue with him being higher than Ingram, but other than that also a) its a game where ratings are just a cumulative total of stats that dont always show who is the best player to play as, and b) Ingram's numbers were not great last year, so any objective rater might not give him a boost for time served vs. lonzo.


but 4 ratings higher. How?

I mean his numbers weren't great but a 76 is harsh also considering Russell is also an 80 (and his numbers were pretty bad also).

I mean if its a situation where its an 80 because his passing and handles are an A fair enough.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#453 » by Spens1 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:37 am

TheRealKaboom wrote:
Spens1 wrote:Lonzo hasn't played a minute yet, again how his he higher than Ingram.

Have you ever watched Lonzo play basketball?


yeah at UCLA and summer league, he hasn't played a minute of pro basketball yet though.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#454 » by TheRealKaboom » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:51 am

Spens1 wrote:
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Spens1 wrote:Lonzo hasn't played a minute yet, again how his he higher than Ingram.

Have you ever watched Lonzo play basketball?


yeah at UCLA and summer league, he hasn't played a minute of pro basketball yet though.

Ingram won Summer League MVP and ROY last year, so yeah it is kind of crazy that he's ranked lower than Ball. I see your point.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#455 » by iamworthy » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:55 pm

Slava wrote:Good thing for Lonzo he didn't get stuck running the triangle offense, making post entries to Kyle O'Quinn & Joakim Noah.


Although I kinda feel the same way about us. I hope lonzo isn't made to run plays like we've been doing for the past three years. I understand the 80% of the league runs the same plays... Some better than others, but I rather give the ball to lonzo and let him make something happen.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#456 » by dockingsched » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:15 pm

Considering what he did last year, a 76 for Ingram is pretty spot on, if anything may be more of a 74-75 to be honest.
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Post#457 » by AcecardZ » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:25 pm

Lots of Ingram doubters...
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#458 » by dockingsched » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:11 pm

AcecardZ wrote:Lots of Ingram doubters...


There's a big difference between someone who doubts Ingram and someone who simply acknowledges how bad his rookie year was.

I have as much confidence and hope for Ingram as I do Ball, but doesn't change he fact his overall rookie year was terrible.
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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#459 » by Mirjalovic » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:18 pm

he had bad rookie year but that's expected. but i see he has enough arsenals to be a 25 ppg scorer in the future once he's ready.
shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.

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Re: Official Lonzo Ball Rookie Thread No. 1 

Post#460 » by mademan » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:32 pm

Mirjalovic wrote:he had bad rookie year but that's expected. but i see he has enough arsenals to be a 25 ppg scorer in the future once he's ready.


I see a very good scorer (not elite) with great defensive potential, which puts him as one of the best SF's in the league

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