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Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5

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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#521 » by Spanish_Laker » Fri Nov 3, 2017 11:44 am

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Spanish_Laker wrote:And we dumped D-Lo to draft this bust? Absolutely disgusting. gg wp Magic.


You spent all of last season dumping on D'Angelo, now you are on Lonzo's back. I guess you will **** on any 19 year old kid unless he is LeBron, Durant and Curry rolled into one from day 1.


Not at all. A guy who is supposed to be the face our franchise can't go scoreless. That lack of aggression is simply unacceptable. This is not what we all thought Lonzo would be. I know he is not a scorer, but come on, those 0-5-point games are simply awful. Are you satisfied with his subpar performances? :banghead:
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#522 » by BEazy » Fri Nov 3, 2017 2:23 pm

Its 8 games into his career...lol
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#523 » by iamworthy » Fri Nov 3, 2017 2:35 pm

Lonzo has that Eli Manning.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#524 » by lamscott » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:23 pm

I'm seeing progress guys. Our players are gelling and the defense is starting to really ratchet up.

I wouldn't worry about Lonzo yet for all you haters. He has the tools but the aggression is not there yet. It will come.

I'm more excited about watching this team actually grow. The DLO/Randle years, we would have never come back from 18 down in the first quarter.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#525 » by dub81 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:33 pm

Zo was playing pretty good D on Dame the whole game, why did Luke switch BI on Zo at the last minute? I did not agree with that strategy. and if BI is going to guard Dame, don't let Dame just do what he want's, pressure him.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#526 » by myersia » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:36 pm



Watch entire thing. Will states it perfectly. I usually hate him. But watch it and settle down.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#527 » by dub81 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:49 pm

He's 20 years old. Kobe was air balling three's his rookie year. Can we just chill and let Zo develop?
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#528 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Nov 3, 2017 4:53 pm

dub81 wrote:Zo was playing pretty good D on Dame the whole game, why did Luke switch BI on Zo at the last minute? I did not agree with that strategy. and if BI is going to guard Dame, don't let Dame just do what he want's, pressure him.


Ingram probably could have been on him a little tighter, but dude hit a contested, step back 30-footer after having gone 1 for 5 on 3s leading up to that. Obviously Lillard is a great player so that's not a fluky shot for him. But if you need a stop to force OT or win, that's the kind of shot you want the other team taking, regardless of who it is. That was just an All-Star making a great play, so you tip your cap and move on. The bigger issue was probably letting him get to the foul line, where he got comfortable. I thought Ball had some good possessions but it's not like he was shutting him down by any means. Walton made a sound choice and it just didn't work because this is the NBA and some of these guys are unreal.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#529 » by dub81 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 5:49 pm

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dub81 wrote:Zo was playing pretty good D on Dame the whole game, why did Luke switch BI on Zo at the last minute? I did not agree with that strategy. and if BI is going to guard Dame, don't let Dame just do what he want's, pressure him.


Ingram probably could have been on him a little tighter, but dude hit a contested, step back 30-footer after having gone 1 for 5 on 3s leading up to that. Obviously Lillard is a great player so that's not a fluky shot for him. But if you need a stop to force OT or win, that's the kind of shot you want the other team taking, regardless of who it is. That was just an All-Star making a great play, so you tip your cap and move on. The bigger issue was probably letting him get to the foul line, where he got comfortable. I thought Ball had some good possessions but it's not like he was shutting him down by any means. Walton made a sound choice and it just didn't work because this is the NBA and some of these guys are unreal.


Agree, that was just a all star being a all star. That had a playoff type intensity feel to that game. I loved how they competed and their D is so much better compared to last year. I like the progress. No moral victories, but I feel good about this team.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#530 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Nov 3, 2017 6:00 pm

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dub81 wrote:Zo was playing pretty good D on Dame the whole game, why did Luke switch BI on Zo at the last minute? I did not agree with that strategy. and if BI is going to guard Dame, don't let Dame just do what he want's, pressure him.


Ingram probably could have been on him a little tighter, but dude hit a contested, step back 30-footer after having gone 1 for 5 on 3s leading up to that. Obviously Lillard is a great player so that's not a fluky shot for him. But if you need a stop to force OT or win, that's the kind of shot you want the other team taking, regardless of who it is. That was just an All-Star making a great play, so you tip your cap and move on. The bigger issue was probably letting him get to the foul line, where he got comfortable. I thought Ball had some good possessions but it's not like he was shutting him down by any means. Walton made a sound choice and it just didn't work because this is the NBA and some of these guys are unreal.


Agree, that was just a all star being a all star. That had a playoff type intensity feel to that game. I loved how they competed and their D is so much better compared to last year. I like the progress. No moral victories, but I feel good about this team.


Yeah, the effort level was excellent. That's a tough place to play, which we know better than just about anybody, and it would have been very easy to just roll over and take it. But we fought back and made a game of it, at least. Still not sold on our direction, but it was a very respectable effort.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#531 » by NBAWestFan » Fri Nov 3, 2017 7:46 pm

dub81 wrote:He's 20 years old. Kobe was air balling three's his rookie year. Can we just chill and let Zo develop?


Kobe was air balling in Play off games vs Utah

But these are regular season games vs some of the best Point Guards.

Zo is D and rebound and of course his passing I see a star in the making

But, if he would change his shot with the fundamental Swan style wrist breaking shot from
one side of his body then his consistency could be like Kobe's and other great shooters

But a Left to Right shot leaves alot of room for error. Just a little off stroke from long distance when
released can end up a lot off by the time a 3 pointer reaches the rim.

It is kinda like shooting a gun. If your aimer is on it is good but if you cannot consistently get the aimer
straight then the chances of getting it in aren't too good, especially for the deep ball.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#532 » by Kilroy » Fri Nov 3, 2017 9:32 pm

He clearly needs to be more aggressive on Offense, but Stephen A calling him out over a single performance is beyond silly.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#533 » by BeanBurrito » Fri Nov 3, 2017 9:47 pm

Kilroy wrote:He clearly needs to be more aggressive on Offense, but Stephen A calling him out over a single performance is beyond silly.

Probably the only Laker game he has watched so far too...
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#534 » by Dloading99 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 10:46 pm

Spanish Fly this isn't a DLO Ball thing. and I think you make great points. but don't let Magic bait you into the face of the lakers thing. I need a leader point guard thing. it's happening all over the league.

very simple these two players could've have been playing together in the same backcourt Russell is a shooting guard. Harden Westbrook Curry Klay why not have Lonzo and Russell this is a clear indication that they complement each other Magic flucked his team by trading the Guy Russell that spaces the floor would've mad it easier for Lonzo to get better looks with teams not focusing guarding him still having to pay attention to a scorer that can put 20 on the board. it makes it easier for Ingram and Ball so That is a player the Lakers had. you don't trade your number two picks you keep them. that's rebuilding. number two picks Russell Ingram Ball. they traded one the best scorer beyond stupid. Lonzo said he wanted to play with Russell and said he can get him the ball to score. it looks like the lakers thought they had a trade in place but I'm not going to let them off the hook it was a stupid trade.

especially after you arlready had Ball.


Luke has got to pull out the tape of the phoenix game. what did they do well. What made Lonzo play so great. whatever that was keep doing that. and I'll be sitting up here with the Championship when Lonzo figures it out and becomes a superstar. because he's a winner. now what he needs to do is work on that jump shot. it will come.


This is the only time I have a problem with Lonzo WHEN HE IS NOT AGRESSIVE take a page out of Russell Westbrook take the shots. Luke Walton should be telling him. I want you taking 20 shots a game if you don't shoot 20 shots a game I'm benching you. the only way players are going to learn if you tell them. Shoot the ball.


I saw Jimmer get of the league because he was supposed to be a scorer he got scared didn't want to miss the shot so he would not shoot pass the ball and then run to the corner same thing lonzo is doing. guys do that when they want to play timid and still get the ball to others but they can say well I didn't miss the shot. get that kobe I'll shoot 40 times so what eventually those misses will be makes.


Lonzo has got to stop thinking just play. the same thing happened in Summer league when he started shooting he played better and got summer league MVP.

tonights game against DLO will be great because he is going to have to go at DLO cause DLO is going to go at him. so if he doesn't DLO is going to Bust his ass. so I think Lonzo will be up for it. and I expect Lonzo to have a great game 25 points 10 rebounds 10 assists Book it. BIG BALLER BIG BALLER.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#535 » by Dloading99 » Fri Nov 3, 2017 10:54 pm

Shaq said it best Lakers can't shoot two shots a game. great Lakers don't shoot two shots a game.

Shaq is great call him out. you gotta be aggressive as a scorer on the Lakers. I wish they would bring shaq on Sportsnet LA so we could hear him say some of that he's a great analyst and you can tell he knows about the game when he says what he says about the players.
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#536 » by dub81 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 1:43 am

myersia wrote:

Watch entire thing. Will states it perfectly. I usually hate him. But watch it and settle down.


First 8 career games

PPG
Ball: 9.1
Kidd: 8.9

APG
Ball: 6.6
Kidd: 6.3

RPG
Ball: 6.8
Kidd: 6.6

FG%
Ball: 33%
Kidd: 35%

3pt %
Ball: 28%
Kidd: 18%

Ball was 19 years old when he debut, Kidd was 21 as a rookie. Chill out
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Re: Lakers vs Portland Game #8 - LOSS - 3-5 

Post#537 » by ISayshowmee » Sat Nov 4, 2017 2:36 am

20 year old kid with 8 pro games under his belt......a bust. Hahahaha......and on top of that he is asked to lead a team of not very established, young players.

Get your head off the clouds folks !!!!!

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