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Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9

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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#421 » by thankyouKOBE » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:32 pm

DiceInMyVeins wrote:Gotta put this loss 100% on Walton. I don't know why coaches don't understand that if an opposing big is going off on your team in the post, it might be a good idea to actually put a center in for defense. Bogut locked him up. Randle had no prayer. Poor coaching in a very winnable game
Getting quite displeased with Luke, myself. I wonder how Magic is perceiving him so far. Magic's in charge, so I hope he talks with Luke. Your coach has to show more basketball smarts. Lots of issues with Luke so far. You think he'd know what works as a coach from a b-ball standpoint. Like you said, we signed Bogut for his defense...never mind that Luke is underplaying Randle when they're most likely trying to build him up. He also keeps sitting Deng and trying to trade him. Magic needs to man up and make some smart choices. It's good they're recognizing Kuzma now though. Luke also sits Lonzo too much.
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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#422 » by dub81 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:49 pm

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DiceInMyVeins wrote:Gotta put this loss 100% on Walton. I don't know why coaches don't understand that if an opposing big is going off on your team in the post, it might be a good idea to actually put a center in for defense. Bogut locked him up. Randle had no prayer. Poor coaching in a very winnable game
Getting quite displeased with Luke, myself. I wonder how Magic is perceiving him so far. Magic's in charge, so I hope he talks with Luke. Your coach has to show more basketball smarts. Lots of issues with Luke so far. You think he'd know what works as a coach from a b-ball standpoint. Like you said, we signed Bogut for his defense...never mind that Luke is underplaying Randle when they're most likely trying to build him up. He also keeps sitting Deng and trying to trade him. Magic needs to man up and make some smart choices. It's good they're recognizing Kuzma now though. Luke also sits Lonzo too much.


Thinking they are sitting Deng because they don't want him to get hurt. If he get's hurt they can't trade him. Such a horrible contract.
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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#423 » by DiceInMyVeins » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:05 pm

thankyouKOBE wrote:
DiceInMyVeins wrote:Gotta put this loss 100% on Walton. I don't know why coaches don't understand that if an opposing big is going off on your team in the post, it might be a good idea to actually put a center in for defense. Bogut locked him up. Randle had no prayer. Poor coaching in a very winnable game
Getting quite displeased with Luke, myself. I wonder how Magic is perceiving him so far. Magic's in charge, so I hope he talks with Luke. Your coach has to show more basketball smarts. Lots of issues with Luke so far. You think he'd know what works as a coach from a b-ball standpoint. Like you said, we signed Bogut for his defense...never mind that Luke is underplaying Randle when they're most likely trying to build him up. He also keeps sitting Deng and trying to trade him. Magic needs to man up and make some smart choices. It's good they're recognizing Kuzma now though. Luke also sits Lonzo too much.

I don't mind sitting lonzo in this game because he was playing awful and we definitely had a chance at winning. Luke is a great guy, I just don't like that he's missing some very obvious basketball things. Like maybe tell Lopez to go in the post if his shot isn't falling. Also Clarkson doesn't play winning basketball so I hope Zo can step up so he doesn't have to play in the 4th
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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#424 » by iamworthy » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:21 pm

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Randle is the only dude fast enough and strong enough on the Lakers to even try to stop him.
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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#425 » by Kilroy » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:43 pm

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Randle is the only dude fast enough and strong enough on the Lakers to even try to stop him.


Agreed, but he needed help. And he really got none. guys were just standing around watching. Poke a hand in there... Put him on the line.
In fact, putting Embiid on the line down the stretch in the 4th should have been the plan. Put Zu in there with Randle to foul out... Then foul out Lopez...
Instead, we let him get all into his little mano-a-mano thing and he feasted... Slow it down and put him on the line. Make him earn it where he's least comfortable. Even if he makes the shots, it saves clock and keeps him out of his rhythm.
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Post#426 » by iQon » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:49 pm

lakerRD wrote:The lack of adjustment to what Embiid was doing is as alarming as anything I watched last night.
From a defensive standpoint, the coaching staff should have done more, whatever it was, whether putting a bigger body on him, or doubling him, or just giving him different defensive looks.
They should have taken the ball out of his hands.


I don't understand why they didn't continue attacking the rim. Embiid obviously altered a lot of shots during the entire game, but a few guys DID beat him. (BI, Jordan... Kuz made his life flash before his eyes...)

When you have 5 guys on the court capable of getting to the rim, and none that can stop him defensively, why not TRY to put him in foul trouble? We're 3-27 in 3PA's and 22-27 at the line. Take the chance and live/die on your sword.
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Post#427 » by RingsDontLie » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:51 pm

iamworthy wrote:
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Randle is the only dude fast enough and strong enough on the Lakers to even try to stop him.


Yes we have to give credit where credit is due, Embiid looks like a gem, and the 76ers are finally back to a relevant status similar to when Allen Iverson was the cornerstone of that franchise.

Embiid was dominant out there even though he got a lot of help from the refs on a few occasions. I honestly hope the 76ers do well, because the East is such a garbage conference, and them doing well doesn't affect us in any way regardless.

To me, Randle didn't make any difference out there on either end, so I would rather have Bogut out there who can match the size. And Bogut was having a nice impact on the offensive end with some put backs and good passing. Randle can play pretty big, but Embiid is a true 80s era big. He makes Durant and Green look pretty small out there.
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Post#428 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:28 pm

RingsDontLie wrote:
iamworthy wrote:
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Randle is the only dude fast enough and strong enough on the Lakers to even try to stop him.


Yes we have to give credit where credit is due, Embiid looks like a gem, and the 76ers are finally back to a relevant status similar to when Allen Iverson was the cornerstone of that franchise.

Embiid was dominant out there even though he got a lot of help from the refs on a few occasions. I honestly hope the 76ers do well, because the East is such a garbage conference, and them doing well doesn't affect us in any way regardless.

To me, Randle didn't make any difference out there on either end, so I would rather have Bogut out there who can match the size. And Bogut was having a nice impact on the offensive end with some put backs and good passing. Randle can play pretty big, but Embiid is a true 80s era big. He makes Durant and Green look pretty small out there.

The East has improved quite a bit. Check the standings. Check the head-to-head results East vs West.

For the first time in the lot of years the East actually has a better overall record.

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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#429 » by MAMBAEMD » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:47 pm

iQon wrote:
lakerRD wrote:The lack of adjustment to what Embiid was doing is as alarming as anything I watched last night.
From a defensive standpoint, the coaching staff should have done more, whatever it was, whether putting a bigger body on him, or doubling him, or just giving him different defensive looks.
They should have taken the ball out of his hands.


I don't understand why they didn't continue attacking the rim. Embiid obviously altered a lot of shots during the entire game, but a few guys DID beat him. (BI, Jordan... Kuz made his life flash before his eyes...)

When you have 5 guys on the court capable of getting to the rim, and none that can stop him defensively, why not TRY to put him in foul trouble? We're 3-27 in 3PA's and 22-27 at the line. Take the chance and live/die on your sword.


Good point.
They should have attacked him and gone at him and get him in foul trouble or tire him out defensively.
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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#430 » by XtremeDunkz » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:40 am

Kilroy wrote:
iamworthy wrote:
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Randle is the only dude fast enough and strong enough on the Lakers to even try to stop him.


Agreed, but he needed help. And he really got none. guys were just standing around watching. Poke a hand in there... Put him on the line.
In fact, putting Embiid on the line down the stretch in the 4th should have been the plan. Put Zu in there with Randle to foul out... Then foul out Lopez...
Instead, we let him get all into his little mano-a-mano thing and he feasted... Slow it down and put him on the line. Make him earn it where he's least comfortable. Even if he makes the shots, it saves clock and keeps him out of his rhythm.


Embiid is actually a very good free throw shooter. Not a liability out there at all, which makes his presence even tougher.
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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#431 » by Slink » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:13 am

He suprised me with his free throw shot. To me it looks like he puts a little extra arc on them which makes it look like he will miss them long.
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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#432 » by Kilroy » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:26 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
iamworthy wrote:
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Randle is the only dude fast enough and strong enough on the Lakers to even try to stop him.


Agreed, but he needed help. And he really got none. guys were just standing around watching. Poke a hand in there... Put him on the line.
In fact, putting Embiid on the line down the stretch in the 4th should have been the plan. Put Zu in there with Randle to foul out... Then foul out Lopez...
Instead, we let him get all into his little mano-a-mano thing and he feasted... Slow it down and put him on the line. Make him earn it where he's least comfortable. Even if he makes the shots, it saves clock and keeps him out of his rhythm.


Embiid is actually a very good free throw shooter. Not a liability out there at all, which makes his presence even tougher.


It doesn't matter if he's a good free throw shooter... Making 2 at the line is a lot harder than making 2 1:1 against any of our Centers this game...
It also takes him out of his rhythm, saves clock, and slows the game down. All things that would have helped our chances.
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Re: Game 15: Philadelphia 76ers (7-6) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-8) - LOSS - 6-9 

Post#433 » by Kilroy » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:29 pm

That said, this is turning into more of an Embiid/Simmons/Sixers/East love fest, than a Lakers thread... I think we'd all just like to put this behind us.
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