BBBKobe wrote:Rosque wrote:S P A C I N G is the problem. Not sure I wanna have frontcourt of 4 guys where 3 cannot make a shot outside 7 feet,
Exactly, our shooting gets worse.
Jordan - Can’t shoot
Randle - thinks he can shoot but can’t
Ingram -inconsistent shooting, not a threat.
PG - streaky shooter but better than Ingram and Ball
Ball -lol can’t shoot but is improving.
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So play Randle off the bench as the small ball 5 and start Kuzma. PG is shooting 42 percent from 3 and taking 7.5 attempts a game. He's an elite 3 pt shooter. Shot 39% from 3 last year on 6.6 attempts. So PG, Kuz are for sure threats and hopefully Ball's recent increase in efficiency from 3 makes him a real threat from there as well.
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And you still have on bench Randle - who will be paid 12+ mil and Nance jr.
Still not enough spacing.
Still not enough spacing.
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If we can't sign any top FAs........... don't panic. We have a good core of young players. Resign Randle at a reasonable price, If not let him walk too. Don't give any more Deng or Mozzy like contracts. Don't stretch Deng. Bring Lopez back. Sign shooters on 1 yr deals and watch Lonzo light it up. No tanking. We are beyond that now.
Start working on Klay/Leonard 2019.
Hopefully it won't come to that. I have a good feeling about PG and with him signed we are decent enough for another marquee FA to consider us in 2019 especially with our young guys developing even more and Lonzo showing his true colors once surrounded with competent shooters.
Start working on Klay/Leonard 2019.
Hopefully it won't come to that. I have a good feeling about PG and with him signed we are decent enough for another marquee FA to consider us in 2019 especially with our young guys developing even more and Lonzo showing his true colors once surrounded with competent shooters.
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Sushisensei26 wrote:If we can't sign any top FAs........... don't panic. We have a good core of young players. Resign Randle at a reasonable price, If not let him walk too. Don't give any more Deng or Mozzy like contracts. Don't stretch Deng. Bring Lopez back. Sign shooters on 1 yr deals and watch Lonzo light it up. No tanking. We are beyond that now.
Start working on Klay/Leonard 2019.
Hopefully it won't come to that. I have a good feeling about PG and with him signed we are decent enough for another marquee FA to consider us in 2019 especially with our young guys developing even more and Lonzo showing his true colors once surrounded with competent shooters.
Available FA shooters
Joe Harris, Rodney Hood, Will Barton, Ariza
will they be cheap or reasonable?
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Ariza should be reasonable and maybe Joe Harris. I have a feeling Harris will be underrated signing this summer even tho he sux on defense
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thegamefritz wrote:Sushisensei26 wrote:If we can't sign any top FAs........... don't panic. We have a good core of young players. Resign Randle at a reasonable price, If not let him walk too. Don't give any more Deng or Mozzy like contracts. Don't stretch Deng. Bring Lopez back. Sign shooters on 1 yr deals and watch Lonzo light it up. No tanking. We are beyond that now.
Start working on Klay/Leonard 2019.
Hopefully it won't come to that. I have a good feeling about PG and with him signed we are decent enough for another marquee FA to consider us in 2019 especially with our young guys developing even more and Lonzo showing his true colors once surrounded with competent shooters.
Available FA shooters
Joe Harris, Rodney Hood, Will Barton, Ariza
will they be cheap or reasonable?
Ariza should be doable. Plus we get veteran guidance from a Laker champion for our young guys.
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J.J. Redick PHI SG 33 12 UFA Non-Bird 36 32.6 17.3 2.8 3.3 0.5 0.1 $23,000,000
*DeMarcus Cousins NOP C 27 8 UFA Bird 48 36.2 25.2 12.9 5.4 1.7 1.6 $16,404,925
Trevor Ariza HOU SF 32 14 UFA Bird 44 35.0 12.1 4.7 1.6 1.5 0.2 $8,000,001
Channing Frye CLE PF 34 12 UFA Bird 39 11.7 4.2 2.2 0.7 0.4 0.2 $8,000,000
*Jabari Parker MIL PF 22 4 RFA Bird 0 $7,413,237
Louis Williams LAC SG 31 13 UFA Bird 48 32.3 23.5 2.5 5.2 1.1 0.2 $7,000,000
Marco Belinelli ATL SG 31 11 UFA Bird 48 23.5 11.2 1.9 2.1 0.9 0.1 $6,333,333
Ersan Ilyasova ATL PF 30 11 UFA Non-Bird 38 25.7 10.9 5.7 1.3 0.9 0.3 $6,000,000
Aaron Gordon ORL PF 22 4 RFA Bird 39 34.0 18.4 8.3 2.2 0.9 0.7 $4,504,865
Nerlens Noel DAL C 23 4 UFA Bird 17 13.2 4.2 4.3 0.4 0.6 0.6 $4,187,598
Quincy Pondexter CHI SG 29 8 UFA Bird 22 8.6 2.0 1.2 0.3 0.3 0.1 $3,500,000
Tyreke Evans MEM SG 28 9 UFA Non-Bird 45 31.2 19.4 5.1 5.0 1.0 0.3 $3,290,000
Nik Stauskas BKN SG 24 4 RFA Bird 24 13.0 4.8 1.5 0.8 0.3 0.1 $3,103,867
Seth Curry DAL SG 27 5 UFA Early Bird 0 $2,963,205
Doug McDermott NYK SF 26 4 RFA Bird 50 21.8 7.5 2.5 0.9 0.2 0.2 $2,609,109
Zach LaVine CHI SG 22 4 RFA Bird 8 22.1 12.6 4.6 2.6 0.9 $2,411,825
Arron Afflalo ORL SG 32 11 UFA Non-Bird 35 12.9 3.0 1.2 0.5 0.1 0.1 $2,328,652
Michael Beasley NYK SF 29 10 UFA Non-Bird 43 19.8 12.8 5.0 1.4 0.4 0.6 $2,116,955
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute HOU PF 31 10 UFA Non-Bird 31 25.7 7.1 3.3 0.9 1.3 0.5 $2,116,955
Omri Casspi GSW SF 29 9 UFA Non-Bird 38 15.7 6.5 4.1 1.1 0.4 0.5 $2,106,470
Ian Clark NOP SG 26 5 UFA Non-Bird 43 16.0 5.2 1.4 1.2 0.4 0.1 $1,577,230
Gerald Green HOU SG 31 11 UFA Non-Bird 12 24.1 13.7 2.8 0.8 0.7 0.3 $1,381,404
David Nwaba CHI SG 25 2 RFA Early Bird 38 22.5 7.2 4.5 1.2 0.8 0.5 $693,070
*injury concerns
Some names on there that could help us and not break the bank.
*DeMarcus Cousins NOP C 27 8 UFA Bird 48 36.2 25.2 12.9 5.4 1.7 1.6 $16,404,925
Trevor Ariza HOU SF 32 14 UFA Bird 44 35.0 12.1 4.7 1.6 1.5 0.2 $8,000,001
Channing Frye CLE PF 34 12 UFA Bird 39 11.7 4.2 2.2 0.7 0.4 0.2 $8,000,000
*Jabari Parker MIL PF 22 4 RFA Bird 0 $7,413,237
Louis Williams LAC SG 31 13 UFA Bird 48 32.3 23.5 2.5 5.2 1.1 0.2 $7,000,000
Marco Belinelli ATL SG 31 11 UFA Bird 48 23.5 11.2 1.9 2.1 0.9 0.1 $6,333,333
Ersan Ilyasova ATL PF 30 11 UFA Non-Bird 38 25.7 10.9 5.7 1.3 0.9 0.3 $6,000,000
Aaron Gordon ORL PF 22 4 RFA Bird 39 34.0 18.4 8.3 2.2 0.9 0.7 $4,504,865
Nerlens Noel DAL C 23 4 UFA Bird 17 13.2 4.2 4.3 0.4 0.6 0.6 $4,187,598
Quincy Pondexter CHI SG 29 8 UFA Bird 22 8.6 2.0 1.2 0.3 0.3 0.1 $3,500,000
Tyreke Evans MEM SG 28 9 UFA Non-Bird 45 31.2 19.4 5.1 5.0 1.0 0.3 $3,290,000
Nik Stauskas BKN SG 24 4 RFA Bird 24 13.0 4.8 1.5 0.8 0.3 0.1 $3,103,867
Seth Curry DAL SG 27 5 UFA Early Bird 0 $2,963,205
Doug McDermott NYK SF 26 4 RFA Bird 50 21.8 7.5 2.5 0.9 0.2 0.2 $2,609,109
Zach LaVine CHI SG 22 4 RFA Bird 8 22.1 12.6 4.6 2.6 0.9 $2,411,825
Arron Afflalo ORL SG 32 11 UFA Non-Bird 35 12.9 3.0 1.2 0.5 0.1 0.1 $2,328,652
Michael Beasley NYK SF 29 10 UFA Non-Bird 43 19.8 12.8 5.0 1.4 0.4 0.6 $2,116,955
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute HOU PF 31 10 UFA Non-Bird 31 25.7 7.1 3.3 0.9 1.3 0.5 $2,116,955
Omri Casspi GSW SF 29 9 UFA Non-Bird 38 15.7 6.5 4.1 1.1 0.4 0.5 $2,106,470
Ian Clark NOP SG 26 5 UFA Non-Bird 43 16.0 5.2 1.4 1.2 0.4 0.1 $1,577,230
Gerald Green HOU SG 31 11 UFA Non-Bird 12 24.1 13.7 2.8 0.8 0.7 0.3 $1,381,404
David Nwaba CHI SG 25 2 RFA Early Bird 38 22.5 7.2 4.5 1.2 0.8 0.5 $693,070
*injury concerns
Some names on there that could help us and not break the bank.
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I would re-sign Julius Randle, first priority if George & LeBron don't come. Something starting in the 12-14M range.
As far as kicking cap space to a following year, I disagree. Every free agent market looks really great a year and a half ahead of time. So I wouldn't do that. Now, that doesn't mean I would go out and throw $15-20 at players in their 30's at 12:01, but I would let the market dictate itself. I would have been okay with both the Mozgov and Deng signings if it was a couple days into free agency and that was the market. We set the market when it came to those deals.
I would make a run at Will Barton and maybe due to the lack of cap space this summer, we get him on a good 2-3 year starting at 9-10M a season.
You can't just keep kicking the can down the road and hope for success. Get good players on reasonable deals while you can when the market is going to be awful. And then you have tradeable assets to get star players. The free agent, hoping for stars market is annoying and awful. Rarely does that work. Not many examples.
As far as kicking cap space to a following year, I disagree. Every free agent market looks really great a year and a half ahead of time. So I wouldn't do that. Now, that doesn't mean I would go out and throw $15-20 at players in their 30's at 12:01, but I would let the market dictate itself. I would have been okay with both the Mozgov and Deng signings if it was a couple days into free agency and that was the market. We set the market when it came to those deals.
I would make a run at Will Barton and maybe due to the lack of cap space this summer, we get him on a good 2-3 year starting at 9-10M a season.
You can't just keep kicking the can down the road and hope for success. Get good players on reasonable deals while you can when the market is going to be awful. And then you have tradeable assets to get star players. The free agent, hoping for stars market is annoying and awful. Rarely does that work. Not many examples.

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1 year deals if we don’t get who we want.
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LakersLegacy wrote:1 year deals if we don’t get who we want.
If we trade Randle and Clarkson for expiring and then sign 1 year guys we will be so thin we will be assured to be worst team in the NBA next year. Can't keep losing talent and not getting it back year after year. At least last year we had picks. This year we don't.
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Slava wrote:The best litmus test is to reach out to agents but make no promises in the first 7 days of free agency. That's when most GMs lose their minds. After that its bargains to be had.
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What about Cory Joseph? He's got player option next year. If he declines it do we go after him?
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Have you ever seen Capella play? He is the alley oop king. Harden and Lonzo do the same thing, pretty much, with Harden being a far better scorer. But Ball & Capella would be tight! Don't see it happening though.Spanish_Laker wrote:mcscotty wrote:Slava wrote:THis is the kind of thinking that gets you to offering 4 year deals to Deng and Mozgov.
I think there's a difference between a couple of banged up, washed up guys like Deng and Mozgov and a guy like Capella. There's a lot of consensus around the league that this kid is the real deal.
Really? There are easily 10 better Cs in the league than him, why chase and overpay a guy who is only good at rebounding and defending the paint?

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