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Re: GAME:52 Los Angeles Lakers (20-31)@ OKC Thunder (30-23) - WIN - 21-31 

Post#281 » by Kilroy » Mon Feb 5, 2018 7:04 am

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He'd be taking KCP's spot. PG is more suited for a second option of the ball role anyways.


Honestly not sure PG is quick enough to play 2 guard at this point... Ball/PG/Ingram/... That's a big 1-3 for sure... But it lacks quickness...

Quickness in what respect? Defensively? He's already a pretty good athlete as his position. His size and length would easily negate any drawbacks from defending quicker 2s. Besides the days of 2s, slashing their way to the rim are over anyways. Everyone just spots up at the three point line.


Yes, laterally... And in the context of playing next to Ball, who plays 'up' on D really well, but has trouble with the quicker guards.

Basically that's the story for all 3 of those guys... They play up, but have trouble with quicker matchups.
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Re: GAME:52 Los Angeles Lakers (20-31)@ OKC Thunder (30-23) - WIN - 21-31 

Post#282 » by Michael Lucky » Mon Feb 5, 2018 7:11 am

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Honestly not sure PG is quick enough to play 2 guard at this point... Ball/PG/Ingram/... That's a big 1-3 for sure... But it lacks quickness...

Quickness in what respect? Defensively? He's already a pretty good athlete as his position. His size and length would easily negate any drawbacks from defending quicker 2s. Besides the days of 2s, slashing their way to the rim are over anyways. Everyone just spots up at the three point line.


Yes, laterally... And in the context of playing next to Ball, who plays 'up' on D really well, but has trouble with the quicker guards.

Basically that's the story for all 3 of those guys... They play up, but have trouble with quicker matchups.

I don't think you can really stay in front of the quicker guards in the league, but I understand where you're coming in respect of having a player in the lineup that can match the quickness of smaller guards a bit better. Having said that, who are we going to find to fill that role? It's not like we have options lining up. At that point i'll just accept that particular roster issue especially when the trade off in general will be worth it.
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GAME:52 Los Angeles Lakers (20-31)@ OKC Thunder (30-23) - WIN - 21-31 

Post#283 » by TwoStarz » Mon Feb 5, 2018 7:33 am

Sucks that I missed both of our last two W’s but I caught the highlights and was glad to see the whole team trusting each other and playing well. That loss to magic stings even more rn


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Re: GAME:52 Los Angeles Lakers (20-31)@ OKC Thunder (30-23) - WIN - 21-31 

Post#284 » by kblo247 » Mon Feb 5, 2018 7:50 am

JC is quicker than them all but his D is ****, much like Farmer, Smush, Wes Johnson, and so on because they have no iq or instinct.

You can scheme something with those three (Ball, Ingram, George) on a perimeter if you’re smart. Hell all Luke has to go to is how Fish, Kobe, and Arica contained people as a group for a blueprint.

If you’re just getting George, you can even look at retaining KCP and Brook if they will take less and play roles willingly
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Re: GAME:52 Los Angeles Lakers (20-31)@ OKC Thunder (30-23) - WIN - 21-31 

Post#285 » by Kilroy » Mon Feb 5, 2018 8:46 am

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Michael Lucky wrote:Quickness in what respect? Defensively? He's already a pretty good athlete as his position. His size and length would easily negate any drawbacks from defending quicker 2s. Besides the days of 2s, slashing their way to the rim are over anyways. Everyone just spots up at the three point line.


Yes, laterally... And in the context of playing next to Ball, who plays 'up' on D really well, but has trouble with the quicker guards.

Basically that's the story for all 3 of those guys... They play up, but have trouble with quicker matchups.

I don't think you can really stay in front of the quicker guards in the league, but I understand where you're coming in respect of having a player in the lineup that can match the quickness of smaller guards a bit better. Having said that, who are we going to find to fill that role? It's not like we have options lining up. At that point i'll just accept that particular roster issue especially when the trade off in general will be worth it.


The context of this discussion was my assertion, that based on Ingram's current play, maybe PG13 isn't that much of a priority... And Slava saying that PG would start at the 2 and not effect Ingrams dev...
I think there's too much over-lap there... And I think at this stage in his career, PG is better suited at the 3.

So rather than thinking about who can fill the roll of quick Guard, I think the better discussion is do we need 2 max guys if one of them is PG... Or would just getting LeBron be enough, if we could keep Randle and develop the rest of our young guys.
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Re: GAME:52 Los Angeles Lakers (20-31)@ OKC Thunder (30-23) - WIN - 21-31 

Post#286 » by Laker_Kid » Mon Feb 5, 2018 9:00 am

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Yes, laterally... And in the context of playing next to Ball, who plays 'up' on D really well, but has trouble with the quicker guards.

Basically that's the story for all 3 of those guys... They play up, but have trouble with quicker matchups.

I don't think you can really stay in front of the quicker guards in the league, but I understand where you're coming in respect of having a player in the lineup that can match the quickness of smaller guards a bit better. Having said that, who are we going to find to fill that role? It's not like we have options lining up. At that point i'll just accept that particular roster issue especially when the trade off in general will be worth it.

So rather than thinking about who can fill the roll of quick Guard, I think the better discussion is do we need 2 max guys if one of them is PG... Or would just getting LeBron be enough, if we could keep Randle and develop the rest of our young guys.

personally, I'm starting to lean towards getting 1 max guy and keep our squad intact. but it's probably only bc we've been winning.
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Re: GAME:52 Los Angeles Lakers (20-31)@ OKC Thunder (30-23) - WIN - 21-31 

Post#287 » by LAKESHOW » Mon Feb 5, 2018 9:19 am

Its excited watching the journey of this team
Like it looks at times that we only need 1 more scorer, thus 1 max guy. Then at times we need everything, and 2 max guys. It's awesome to watch development and growth of our young guys. But I'm also looking at we are too heavily perimeter reliant at times. Every once in a while it wouldn't hurt going inside. Whether randle and Lopez is sufficient, remains to be seen. But our gameplay is improving without a doubt. If we drafed correctly, let's say Porzingis. Then 1 max guy would be all we need. But I'm sure magelinka are also deliberating these multiple options and scenarios. And even seeing our current guys, lile randle, earning the right to sign Laker contracts. It's fun watching this journey.
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Post#288 » by Rosque » Mon Feb 5, 2018 10:41 am

I just think we are wayyyy to concerned with the concept of '2' and '3' position with eventually PG coming here. ZO/PG13/BI/Kuzma/Randle is great 4th quarter lineup. Everyone can basically switch every position for that 1 possession. Add a couple of good bench players and formidable center in the middle and you are good to go.

Like, who are the 'SG's int he NBA today anyway that PG cannot guard?

Let's see.

Bradley Beal? Devin Booker? DeRozan? Harden? Oladipo? Klay?

Of all those players PG could not guard Harden and he matches up with him really well. Beal would be a bit tougher but Ingram being longer and better suited could guard Beal and Booker. Everyone else PG should have no problem guarding.
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Re: GAME:52 Los Angeles Lakers (20-31)@ OKC Thunder (30-23) - WIN - 21-31 

Post#289 » by BEazy » Tue Feb 6, 2018 12:11 am

Lets not get ahead of ourselves. There are plenty of losses this season a player like PG could of willed us to a win. PG is absolutely a necessity for this team to take it to another level.

Im okay with just one star this off season. We can wait until next year’s free agent class to sign 1 or 2 more guys.
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