Nance Jr. could be great if he refines his game.

[macNcheese3]

I wouldn't say great but the man can ball!

[kblo247]

I’ll sum it up for you.

We can get rid of Randle and Nance could easily start at pf next to a great player. He could make all the winning plays and we wouldn’t miss a beat if he was with AD, Cousins, or even a guy like Drummond.

We can keep Randle if we plan on adding talent but he has to be the third or fourth guy who knows his role for us to win, not the featured guy. His is the get Paul George scenario

Us maxing Randle or trying to make him our 1/2 guy means lotto every single year with empty numbers like Elton Brand with the clippers or Shareef with the Hawks. He’s not good enough to do what Z-bo did in Memphis, ain’t tough enough or consistent enough to get the max and be the primary low post option who you go to every possession.

Its like you are stuck in a time loop that ends in 2010 and you drop by in the future just to draw comparisons to old times, everything goes back to Derek Fisher, Lamar Odom, Turiaf Farmar for you. This is tiresome. The NBA has moved on, get with the times.

In this nba, what does Randle provide? What he helped accomplish? Has he been an all star? Is he elite offensively or defensively? Is he an elite play maker?

Randle doesn’t provide anything transcendent like a lottery pick should, especially a laker lotto pick which means he’s judged by Kobe, Bynum, Worrthy, Magic standards. Randle isn’t an all star, hasn’t come close to sniffing the game actually, so again he isn’t worth being paid or being talked about as a guy who has a number of shots and minutes allotted to him because he’s not good like that. Heck he isn’t even all nba caliber, so no he isn’t elite offensively or defensively to the point in which you say he anchors your team on either end in the regular season nightly, let alone playoffs. And no he can’t make plays at an elite level like Odom, Walker, Giannis or other point forwards which matters when his stupid ass brings the ball up and down the court.

You can talk about yesteryear all you want but fact is Randle is a loser who hasn’t pushed a needle or helped a team win games at even the level Marcus Smart in his own draft class has.

You dont build around him or plan around him, he is an expendable accessory to the main prices, not the other way around. If he walks, so ducking what. He’s a role player on a good team as long as he shuts up and plays, just like Nance is a role player, and no player meetings or feelings change that until he helps this team get a winning record. He has no voice, he has no gameplan to be featured, he’s just a guy who needs to get in his head his role is to support real talent that is actual all star level if we can acquire it just like odom, Kurt Thomas, Horace, Rambis, Fisher, and the like all did. If he doesn’t get it he can walk and be a guy with empty numbers nightly losing much like Brand spent most his career doing, Love did in Minny to he became the beta to Bron and Kyrie, and Shareef did his old nba stay.


Lord bless the souls of Mavs fans if he gets the max down there alongside Barnes, just like Parsons got it before him. Sad state of affairs and a decade of lotto appearances upcoming

[Slava]

Odom
Rambis
Kurt Thomas
Fisher.

Rinse. Repeat.

Go back to the 20th century.

[kblo247]

Odom
Rambis
Kurt Thomas
Fisher.

Rinse. Repeat.

Go back to the 20th century.

Who exactly are your modern role players? Barbosa, Battier, Ray Allen, James Jones, Iggy, Tristen Thompson, HAslem, Danny Green, Posey, JR Smith, and the like who all were still playing when Fisher, Odom, Thomas, and so on were all going?

I mean damn its not like championship role guys have changed that much from that era, hell most of them played that last era nightly. Randle fits in that class. He doesn't fit in the Dirk, Z-bo, Aldridge, Pau, Amare, JO group of game changing players who will be your first or second best guy every night to win you games.


What do you think Randle brings to a team? And why do you think he can help you win when he hasn't so far?

[milesfides]

Nance is an ideal role player. One, he’s arguably our best/most productive 2-way player.

But two. You don’t win championships without guys like this, who sacrifice everything for the team. Even their individual talent and potential.

I hope we don’t trade LNJ.

[Mirjalovic]

In the era of unicorns like Jokic, Porzingis, Davis why the hell someone can manage to bring someone like freaking Jermaine O’Neil into a conversation about a modern player.

And this debate has false premise from
the start. If you want using player from the past, Anthony Mason has the same type game with Randle. Anthony Mason wasn’t an all nba players and he stills a terrific player, and Randle can be better than him when all said and done

[Beethoven]

Good bye Nance, Godspeed.

[BASKETBALLNERDZ]

Randle stats is not empty. Lakers have the winning record with him as starter.

Well, I think people are talking about defensive stats.

[Crazy Bean]

I'm gonna miss me some dunk highlights and energy from him.

[Spanish_Laker]

I think he will be a key rotation player in Cleveland. His defense, rebounding and hustle are much needed there.