GAME:66 Los Angeles Lakers (29-36) VS Cleveland Cavaliers (38-27) - WIN - 30-36

[Edrees]

I thought Jim gave himself a deadline?

He did

He said he'd be disappointed if we didn't make the playoffs in 5 years... Hardly a deadline... Jeannie turned that innocuous statement into a fireable timeline.

Pretty sad he's not disappointed every year we miss the playoffs

[snaquille oatmeal]

watching the game again we need a poll: who hits the floor more IT or Hibbert

[Dloading99]

If you want to be real about it.

I think the comments were about Jim thinking he was going to get Lebron James or Kevin Durant. that was before he struck out on all the big free agents.

I think there was a assumption around the team that we were going to get one of those big free agents.

a lot of this was about Durants' admiration for the Lakers. we all thought we were getting one of those guys.

then the Harden stuff and he reuped on the deal.

A lot of this contract stuff was Jim Really just reacting and realizing he wasn't going to land the big free agent. before then we thought or he thought that it was easy for guys to come to L.A. but guys just weren't coming.


And there's a lot of stuff that was going on that people didn't talk about. how about the media people who are in the organization. using the media to just Bang on Jim Buss. I mean it was getting to a point where it was unprofessional.


I look at it now and I'm like the Dantoni hire was actually a good hire. look how he has them playing now. Look at the NBA now. The pace wasn't good for Kobe at his career. but guys like Kent Bazemore and Nick young played great in it. Dwight howard didn't like it and look at him now. The NBA isn't his game anymore. so he had the right principles in place. he just did bonehead things. Jeanie Didn't help coming out in the media saying she was going to fire her brother. if they would've just all come out and said hey we are going to rebuild we will turn this team back into a championship team it won't be right away but we are committed and we are all on the same page. it would've been a lot better.



Glad the team is playing better. Isiah gives us that dimension we haven't had he's a dog and he has that dog in him. like Julius said he's a dog. let him have that role as the guy off the bench who just goes and scores. Where we are as a team. I'd really like to focus on Brining Julius back. and just build around the guys we have like I said anyone who wants to sign go ahead but we have a great team in place.

[JohnVancouver]

I still can't believe he did it. He was generally so solid. But Deng and Mozgov was some 1980s Clippers sh*t. So, so dumb.

Deng and Mozgov was some 1980s Clippers sh*t. So, so dumb = new sig

[JohnVancouver]

and further to the "why would they do it" - the cap had gone up by a huge amount the previous year , new tv deal, etc, which inflated FA contracts, and GMs thought it would just keep going up ... it didn't

[Sedale Threatt]

I still can't believe he did it. He was generally so solid. But Deng and Mozgov was some 1980s Clippers sh*t. So, so dumb.

Deng and Mozgov was some 1980s Clippers sh*t. So, so dumb = new sig

I’m honored.

[Dloading99]

Exactly everybody thought those contracts would be like normal contracts.

and then all the Gm's stopped paying and those contracts became horrible contracts. I remember everybody saying the Cap is going to keep going up because of the TV money.

[danfantastk32]

Did you catch the fact that he's talking in the past tense about the 'deadline'? That's because this wasn't the first interview where he initially said he'd be disappointed if we weren't deep in the playoffs in 5 years... He was actually basically saying 'it's a process but I would be disappointed if we weren't in the playoffs in 5 years.'
Then the media made a big deal about it and went to Jeannie for her comments and that's when she said she was the boss and would take action if the team didn't perform. They asked her if that meant she'd fire Jim if they weren't in contention in 5 years, and she said that was within her power...

This interview was about 3 years after that, after the 'deadline' had become set in stone and a thing in the media... It was Jim's first comment about it since I believe, but what was he supposed to say? He was backed into a corner already at that point...
And not too long after this, we signed Mozgov and Deng...

"
Lakers' Jim Buss: I'll quit if club doesn't contend 'in 3 or 4 years'
Son of Jerry Buss puts his job on the line after the worst season in franchise history.
by Matt Moore Apr 20, 2014 "


That's the buyline. Note it's April of 2014. And that this is in response to the fact that we have already just had the worst season in Laker franchise history (Not for long!) Next part:

"
Lakers owner and head of basketball operations Jim Buss says he told his family business during a January business meeting that he will step down if the Lakers do not return to contention within "three or fours years." "

So that wasn't in response to something he said back in the past. It was something he told his family at a meeting about 2-3 months earlier. The next paragraph of the article is the first quote I already posted. The second quote I posted earlier, is something he says almost 2 years later. And he was fired about a year after that.

His quotes are his quotes man.....I don't know what to tell ya. He was given 3 years after that first quote. For the record....we had already endured our (till then) worst season ever. So the guy got about 4-1/2 - years. Maybe 5-1/2. I don't really care.

We can quibble details...this month....that month. But the idea that Jeanie twisted his words.....

Cause unless those reporters are lying....he said what he said very clear.

And for the record...I was really happy when Jim took over. I felt he had a hand in our two titles with Pau. I personally loved the CP3 trade. We got Dwight...and Nash as a plan B to no CP3. <-----yes that turned into a disaster....but we all loved it at the time, I loved the push...the drive to be top-notch. Alot of that was during Jerry....but he was pretty damn old and sick. It would be very unfair to give Jim no credit. And of course Mitch...I don't even gotta say that.

I WANTED the next Buss to carry the torch. So I really don't hate the guy. He was just terrible. Let me say that a little nicer: I think he and Mitch just didn't adapt to the new NBA at all. They were old ideas and plans. They looked the fool to young players, and much like when a coach loses the locker-room....you gotta can him. Right or wrong....he's gotta go. Jim and Mitch has lost the stars. They weren't even willing to give them courtesy meetings at the end.

I don't think Jeanie needed his quotes to do what she did. She might have enjoyed it. She might have sent him a smiley text an hour after tossing him. Who really knows? But it still doesn't change the fact that A) It really needed to happen, and B) Boy did Jim soft-ball that one for her.

[danfantastk32]

Jeanie Didn't help coming out in the media saying she was going to fire her brother. if they would've just all come out and said hey we are going to rebuild we will turn this team back into a championship team it won't be right away but we are committed and we are all on the same page. it would've been a lot better.

This I totally agree with. I come down on Jim/Mitch for "losing the room" when it came to NBA free-agents. But it's hard not to when your sister/ceo is calling Dwight (and really any player who has the audacity to leave the Lakers) a LOSER. That didn't play well with players. And then she does put her Bro on notice in a later interview. <-----granted....by then we were like 2-1/2 seasons into this hellish abyss, so she kinda had to let people know she wasn't gonna let this go on forever. But still...it undermines him, and makes it just that much tougher.

Look....I def like the job Jeanie has done on her end alot more than I liked what Jim did. Jeanie and Magic are outgoing, and charming, and it's much easier to like. But they both need to say a little less.

Will be interesting if Jeanie and Magic ever get into a Kobe-Shaq feud over who runs the roost. J-West, Mitch, Jim were more quiet personalities. Phil pretended to want to engage your inner feelings, but then wrote a tell-all $$-maker when he's outa dodge.

Jeanie and Magic??? Both will let it fly. Both are BELOVED. That would be an interesting one. Obviously, I hope never happens.

[Dloading99]

In Business you have to show organization. you have to show leadership. and you have to show that everyone is on the same page.


The Lakers didn't show any of that when Jeanie Was making her comments. if you are a player and you hear another executive with the team popping off about how she calls the shots. it just is like dude I'm in a meeting with you. how can you tell me you have control over this team and you are leading this franchise and you can't even keep your other executive from saying she is the boss and she will fire you. I thought you were the boss. so it's unprofessional for NBA players and Agents to see that.

The Lakers were never that. I didn't like that Jeanie put all that in the media. she always did interviews but she came off as nuts in some of those interviews. I'm all for letting the fans know that you are committing to winning. but the anybody that doesn't want to play with Kobe is a loer. was reckless.


to those comments it was well documented in league circles that a lot of players in the league prominent super star players didn't want to play with Kobe Bryant. and they took those comments as a slight at them. The new NBA players didn't want somebody on they ass like that and acting like they are so great and the team is not as good as him. it was cool for Shaq but more of these players were about the Lebron Curry we all boys player. the new AAU guys were different. so Jeanie just sounded out of touch. She was on a media campaign for Kobe.

She made it obvious that Kobe was her favorite the Contract the comments even the comments she makes about him now. That's Jeanie. so players weren't all about Dwight but when she said that directing that to him they didn't like that. and when Dwight Bounced to play with Harden guys were turned off.

L.A. was more about the Kobe show then a basketball team. The reckless trades that were orchrastrated by Jim helped her cause the Nash move was horrible it was obvious Nash wasn't MVP nash.


Mitch has always done it right. I always knew when Mitch talked He knew what he was talking about. He knew the Cap even saying just cause the Big is there you don't have to take the Big. he just didn't know the pick should've been Devin Booker.


Jeanies gotten good but there was a period where she was all over the radio aring stuff out. As much as Jim made the team look unprofessional Jeanie did to. Lakers fans are pretty knowledgeable. if you keep it real with them and say this team needs a rebuild they would be all for it. so just then all the we are going to compete stuff was fluff. they should've just said we are rebuilding. Seems like one side wanted to embrace that and one side didn't want to embrace that. The team has finally come back around to being about team. and we need to get back to that. but with these new superstars are we going to go back to being about the one superstar and not team.