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GAME:73 Los Angeles Lakers (32-40) @ Detroit Pistons (33-40) - LOSS - 32-41

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Re: GAME:73 Los Angeles Lakers (32-40) @ Detroit Pistons (33-40) 

Post#41 » by NoseBleedLakers » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:15 am

Just another game they "should" have won. Lakers head back home with a 1-3 road trip
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Re: GAME:73 Los Angeles Lakers (32-40) @ Detroit Pistons (33-40) 

Post#42 » by evilpimp972 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:17 am

That wasnt as bad of a loss than vs New Orleans honestly
Randle was not good, but still had 20 + pts
Kuzma is playing greay right now
Lonzo with his best game in a while, from midrange wow
Overall we didnt play good defense down the stretch, the bench is loooking terrible right now
Please at least Josh Hart come back!
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Post#43 » by BEazy » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:17 am

We gon end the season with a losing streak...smh
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Post#44 » by evilpimp972 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:21 am

ScHoolBoy B wrote:We gon end the season with a losing streak...smh

If Brandon isnt coming back absolutely
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Post#45 » by Landsberger » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:24 am

Detroit hit their shots in the 4th and we didn't. Randle got caught up in the tit for tat stuff and fell asleep on defense and got tunnel vision against Biff. Lopez had 3 boards in 32 minutes. Those who say we should re-sign this guy should remember this game (along with the other 70). Kuzma was frozen out of the offense again. This time in the 3rd quarter where he barely touched the ball much less got it in scoring position. Ball was on with the shot but then he passed up a few late in the game.

All in all, it's a game indicative of a young team.
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Post#46 » by Spens1 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:58 am

Where was the defense? Seriously though we have no business losing to Detroit.

KCP and Lopez aside, i think our main issue was the lack of bench output for us. Zubac only playing 8 minutes doesn't make sense, he should be getting around 15-20MPG, especially if Lopez is playing that badly. Frye also i think could have had more gametime.

Wear and Ennis did absolutely nothing for us.

My main takeaway though is that we're way too poor defensively, Lonzo and KCP did ok defensively but they can only do so much, we need more defense in the front court also and on the wings also.
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Post#47 » by danfantastk32 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:26 am

Landsberger wrote:Lopez had 3 boards in 32 minutes. Those who say we should re-sign this guy should remember this game (along with the other 70).


We should totally resign him. I think he's a good offensive weapon, and moves pretty well, and can spread the floor. 35% from 3 ain't half bad. Speaking of which....it's not Brook's fault that he plays out at the 3 a good portion of our offense. Hard to get rebounds out there. And speaking of that, we're #1 in total rebounds per game this season. We're #4 in offensive rebounds, and #3 in defensive rebounds. I'd be lying if I'd say Brook is a great rebounder who's under-utilized...but its clear that Luke has him doing other duties, and rebounding is certainly not a problem for us. It's prob the one thing I'd say we're actually GOOD at.

Our team becomes pretty damn small without him (Zubac would be our only true center). I'd absolutely give the guy a short term contract. I think he's a great fit for what we're doing.
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Post#48 » by TwoStarz » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:00 am

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Landsberger wrote:Lopez had 3 boards in 32 minutes. Those who say we should re-sign this guy should remember this game (along with the other 70).


We should totally resign him. I think he's a good offensive weapon, and moves pretty well, and can spread the floor. 35% from 3 ain't half bad. Speaking of which....it's not Brook's fault that he plays out at the 3 a good portion of our offense. Hard to get rebounds out there. And speaking of that, we're #1 in total rebounds per game this season. We're #4 in offensive rebounds, and #3 in defensive rebounds. I'd be lying if I'd say Brook is a great rebounder who's under-utilized...but its clear that Luke has him doing other duties, and rebounding is certainly not a problem for us. It's prob the one thing I'd say we're actually GOOD at.

Our team becomes pretty damn small without him (Zubac would be our only true center). I'd absolutely give the guy a short term contract. I think he's a great fit for what we're doing.

He’s a big body who seems to box out and let his teammates get the boards. Rebounding numbers don’t always indicate how good of a rebounder someone is and vice versa.


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Post#49 » by TylersLakers » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:29 pm

Lonzo had an encouraging game. When he made back-to-back pull ups, from the left off the glass and another moving to his right, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Add in a floater, a dunk, a contested layup, and a 3-pointer with a guy right in his face.

There's not too many teams we can beat in the game with Ingram, Hart and IT out. There's not. With those 3 guys, we're a good team. Without them, and you have to replace them with Ennis, Wear and Zubac, we're probably the second or third worst team in the league. I didn't expect a win and if you would have told me before the trip that Ingram & Hart would miss all three and Thomas would miss two, I would have said we'd be lucky to get one game. That's exactly what happened.

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Post#50 » by Landsberger » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:58 pm

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Landsberger wrote:Lopez had 3 boards in 32 minutes. Those who say we should re-sign this guy should remember this game (along with the other 70).


We should totally resign him. I think he's a good offensive weapon, and moves pretty well, and can spread the floor. 35% from 3 ain't half bad. Speaking of which....it's not Brook's fault that he plays out at the 3 a good portion of our offense. Hard to get rebounds out there. And speaking of that, we're #1 in total rebounds per game this season. We're #4 in offensive rebounds, and #3 in defensive rebounds. I'd be lying if I'd say Brook is a great rebounder who's under-utilized...but its clear that Luke has him doing other duties, and rebounding is certainly not a problem for us. It's prob the one thing I'd say we're actually GOOD at.

Our team becomes pretty damn small without him (Zubac would be our only true center). I'd absolutely give the guy a short term contract. I think he's a great fit for what we're doing.


There's a reason he's never played on a good team. A guy at his size and the best thing you can say is that he shoots well from the 3. I'd rather get 3 point shooting from another position and get a center that can lock down 9-11 boards a game with some above average defense.

How does his shooting from the 3 point line effect his defensive rebounding position? He's horrible defensively as well.

If he's one of our primary players next year our offseason plans failed that's all I can say.
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Re: GAME:73 Los Angeles Lakers (32-40) @ Detroit Pistons (33-40) 

Post#51 » by Landsberger » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:00 pm

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danfantastk32 wrote:
Landsberger wrote:Lopez had 3 boards in 32 minutes. Those who say we should re-sign this guy should remember this game (along with the other 70).


We should totally resign him. I think he's a good offensive weapon, and moves pretty well, and can spread the floor. 35% from 3 ain't half bad. Speaking of which....it's not Brook's fault that he plays out at the 3 a good portion of our offense. Hard to get rebounds out there. And speaking of that, we're #1 in total rebounds per game this season. We're #4 in offensive rebounds, and #3 in defensive rebounds. I'd be lying if I'd say Brook is a great rebounder who's under-utilized...but its clear that Luke has him doing other duties, and rebounding is certainly not a problem for us. It's prob the one thing I'd say we're actually GOOD at.

Our team becomes pretty damn small without him (Zubac would be our only true center). I'd absolutely give the guy a short term contract. I think he's a great fit for what we're doing.

He’s a big body who seems to box out and let his teammates get the boards. Rebounding numbers don’t always indicate how good of a rebounder someone is and vice versa.


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This is a stretch and really doesn't make sense. Good rebounders get rebounds AND block out.
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Post#52 » by evilpimp972 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:19 pm

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TwoStarz wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
We should totally resign him. I think he's a good offensive weapon, and moves pretty well, and can spread the floor. 35% from 3 ain't half bad. Speaking of which....it's not Brook's fault that he plays out at the 3 a good portion of our offense. Hard to get rebounds out there. And speaking of that, we're #1 in total rebounds per game this season. We're #4 in offensive rebounds, and #3 in defensive rebounds. I'd be lying if I'd say Brook is a great rebounder who's under-utilized...but its clear that Luke has him doing other duties, and rebounding is certainly not a problem for us. It's prob the one thing I'd say we're actually GOOD at.

Our team becomes pretty damn small without him (Zubac would be our only true center). I'd absolutely give the guy a short term contract. I think he's a great fit for what we're doing.

He’s a big body who seems to box out and let his teammates get the boards. Rebounding numbers don’t always indicate how good of a rebounder someone is and vice versa.


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This is a stretch and really doesn't make sense. Good rebounders get rebounds AND block out.

I guess Steven Adams is a terrible defensive rebounder then
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Post#53 » by TyCobb » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:31 pm

When Lonzo is attacking like this you can see he is getting more comfortable. It's only a matter of time before he is HS comfortable where he is flying all over the place just playing at a different speed than anybody else--dominating both ends of the court.
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Post#54 » by Landsberger » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:05 pm

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TwoStarz wrote:He’s a big body who seems to box out and let his teammates get the boards. Rebounding numbers don’t always indicate how good of a rebounder someone is and vice versa.


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This is a stretch and really doesn't make sense. Good rebounders get rebounds AND block out.

I guess Steven Adams is a terrible defensive rebounder then


Not sure what you're getting at. Adams gets 9 boards a game. Lopez gets 4. He's had 1 or less 11 times this season. 23 games with 2 or less and 42 games (of 65 total) with 4 or less. So.... for over 1/2 of the season he's averaging 2.6 boards. Not sure how Adams fits into this at all. I'd take him over Lopez in a second.
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Re: GAME:73 Los Angeles Lakers (32-40) @ Detroit Pistons (33-40) - LOSS - 32-41 

Post#55 » by Spanish_Laker » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:27 pm

Now its time to win at least 4 o 5 games, 8 games at home to finish the season.
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Post#56 » by evilpimp972 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:41 pm

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This is a stretch and really doesn't make sense. Good rebounders get rebounds AND block out.

I guess Steven Adams is a terrible defensive rebounder then


Not sure what you're getting at. Adams gets 9 boards a game. Lopez gets 4. He's had 1 or less 11 times this season. 23 games with 2 or less and 42 games (of 65 total) with 4 or less. So.... for over 1/2 of the season he's averaging 2.6 boards. Not sure how Adams fits into this at all. I'd take him over Lopez in a second.

Steven Adams is averaging a terrible 4 defensive rebounds per game, is he, or not a terrible defensive rebounder ?
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Post#57 » by Landsberger » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:59 am

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evilpimp972 wrote:I guess Steven Adams is a terrible defensive rebounder then


Not sure what you're getting at. Adams gets 9 boards a game. Lopez gets 4. He's had 1 or less 11 times this season. 23 games with 2 or less and 42 games (of 65 total) with 4 or less. So.... for over 1/2 of the season he's averaging 2.6 boards. Not sure how Adams fits into this at all. I'd take him over Lopez in a second.

Steven Adams is averaging a terrible 4 defensive rebounds per game, is he, or not a terrible defensive rebounder ?


:lol: Is he or is he not a good shooter from 7'-8" from the hoop?

Reality is that he gets more defensive rebounds than Lopez get total rebounds.

Lopez has been fading the last 3 years as a defender (and he wasn't good or even decent to begin with) and as a rebounder. The future for him is more slide IMHO. If we get Bron and PG in here (or a combination of either) his one passable asset (3 point shooting) will basically be nullified. If we're setting him up for 3 to 5 3 point attempts a game with that team then Luke will need an examination. That leaves his value proposition as a rebounder and defender which he isn't either. Pass on signing him.
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Re: GAME:73 Los Angeles Lakers (32-40) @ Detroit Pistons (33-40) 

Post#58 » by evilpimp972 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:26 am

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Not sure what you're getting at. Adams gets 9 boards a game. Lopez gets 4. He's had 1 or less 11 times this season. 23 games with 2 or less and 42 games (of 65 total) with 4 or less. So.... for over 1/2 of the season he's averaging 2.6 boards. Not sure how Adams fits into this at all. I'd take him over Lopez in a second.

Steven Adams is averaging a terrible 4 defensive rebounds per game, is he, or not a terrible defensive rebounder ?


:lol: Is he or is he not a good shooter from 7'-8" from the hoop?

Reality is that he gets more defensive rebounds than Lopez get total rebounds.

Lopez has been fading the last 3 years as a defender (and he wasn't good or even decent to begin with) and as a rebounder. The future for him is more slide IMHO. If we get Bron and PG in here (or a combination of either) his one passable asset (3 point shooting) will basically be nullified. If we're setting him up for 3 to 5 3 point attempts a game with that team then Luke will need an examination. That leaves his value proposition as a rebounder and defender which he isn't either. Pass on signing him.

Okay, then Westbrook gets twice more defensive rebounds than Adams, who's the better rebounder?

Not sure where you read I said he was a good rebounder though, I'm just saying that there's no evidence whatsoever than Brook rebounding is hurting the Lakers right now.
As for LBJ & PG you must have not watch the cavs playing and how Klove became a spot up 3pt shooter, something you are saying Brook can do, you know.
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Post#59 » by Landsberger » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:33 am

evilpimp972 wrote:
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evilpimp972 wrote:Steven Adams is averaging a terrible 4 defensive rebounds per game, is he, or not a terrible defensive rebounder ?


:lol: Is he or is he not a good shooter from 7'-8" from the hoop?

Reality is that he gets more defensive rebounds than Lopez get total rebounds.

Lopez has been fading the last 3 years as a defender (and he wasn't good or even decent to begin with) and as a rebounder. The future for him is more slide IMHO. If we get Bron and PG in here (or a combination of either) his one passable asset (3 point shooting) will basically be nullified. If we're setting him up for 3 to 5 3 point attempts a game with that team then Luke will need an examination. That leaves his value proposition as a rebounder and defender which he isn't either. Pass on signing him.

Okay, then Westbrook gets twice more defensive rebounds than Adams, who's the better rebounder?

Not sure where you read I said he was a good rebounder though, I'm just saying that there's no evidence whatsoever than Brook rebounding is hurting the Lakers right now.
As for LBJ & PG you must have not watch the cavs playing and how Klove became a spot up 3pt shooter, something you are saying Brook can do, you know.


What does watching a system we don't run have to do with the Lakers adding LeBron? Is Cleveland's coach a FA too?

Love is a fantastic defensive rebounder to go along with a decent 3 point show. His foot speed and agility makes Lopez look like a brontosaurus as well.

Lopez may very well be our worst rebounder per minute played. For a front court player that's not a little thing. If we have a team stacked with shooters and scorers then what he brings is redundant at best.

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