season exit grades/season notes

[danfantastk32]

From what I remember we needed a contract to get to the minimum (right?) when we signed him for that crazy amount.

Not sure....but either way, It doesn't really matter. It was 1 year. Filled our cap....brought in someone who MIGHT work (prob not, but oh well) and we got a seat at the Lebron table.

"1-year" is the only part of the KCP deal that any of us fans need worry about. If you liked him...great. If not....well who cares? He had no affect on any 'plans'.

[Unbiased hater]

Lonzo - B
Ingram B - A
KCP - D / Goner
Randle - B+
Kuzma - A
Lopez - D / Goner
Hart - B
Bryant - C
GP II - N/A
Wear - N/A
Caruso - D
IT - C / Goner
Zubac - D / Goner
Ingram A - A
Ennis - E / Goner
Deng - F / Goner

Walton - B-

[danfantastk32]

Bryant - C

You are the unbiased hater....so apparently hate is in your heart....but I'm just kinda curious why the "C" grade for a guy who never really got to step on the floor.

Forgive me....but it seems kinda sh***y to judge a young kid who got less than a minute per game this year. I'd love to know exactly what your criteria was for the C? <------- Callin' Bull s - on you....but maybe you have a reason. Would be interested to hear.

[Unbiased hater]

Bryant - C

You are the unbiased hater....so apparently hate is in your heart....but I'm just kinda curious why the "C" grade for a guy who never really got to step on the floor.

Forgive me....but it seems kinda sh***y to judge a young kid who got less than a minute per game this year. I'd love to know exactly what your criteria was for the C? <------- Callin' Bull s - on you....but maybe you have a reason. Would be interested to hear.

I dont think that he has potential

[danfantastk32]

Bryant - C

You are the unbiased hater....so apparently hate is in your heart....but I'm just kinda curious why the "C" grade for a guy who never really got to step on the floor.

Forgive me....but it seems kinda sh***y to judge a young kid who got less than a minute per game this year. I'd love to know exactly what your criteria was for the C? <------- Callin' Bull s - on you....but maybe you have a reason. Would be interested to hear.

I'll cut you some slack...and say I noticed several bad grades on this post for him. Damn...there are some tough fans around here. The guy plays 72 minutes in an 82-game season.....what exactly do you want from the guy?

Not some Bryant fan-boy BTW.....but god-damn. Seems really unfair to give this guy any sort of grade.

[Landsberger]

Bryant - C

You are the unbiased hater....so apparently hate is in your heart....but I'm just kinda curious why the "C" grade for a guy who never really got to step on the floor.

Forgive me....but it seems kinda sh***y to judge a young kid who got less than a minute per game this year. I'd love to know exactly what your criteria was for the C? <------- Callin' Bull s - on you....but maybe you have a reason. Would be interested to hear.

I'll cut you some slack...and say I noticed several bad grades on this post for him. Damn...there are some tough fans around here. The guy plays 72 minutes in an 82-game season.....what exactly do you want from the guy?

Not some Bryant fan-boy BTW.....but god-damn. Seems really unfair to give this guy any sort of grade.

Turn it around then...... what grade do you give a guy who couldn't get more than 72 minutes on a 35 win team that had a ton of front court injuries in an admitted "Development" year?

Very smart basketball people didn't see fit to give him more than 72 minutes in a development year. That's what happened. Isn't it fair to grade his entire season including the part where he couldn't get playing time? You get playing time when the coaching staff believes you deserve it and just maybe he wasn't good enough at something we didn't see to displace guys like Zubac, Wear and Frye. Wouldn't that grade out at a pretty low grade for the year?

[danfantastk32]

You are the unbiased hater....so apparently hate is in your heart....but I'm just kinda curious why the "C" grade for a guy who never really got to step on the floor.

Forgive me....but it seems kinda sh***y to judge a young kid who got less than a minute per game this year. I'd love to know exactly what your criteria was for the C? <------- Callin' Bull s - on you....but maybe you have a reason. Would be interested to hear.

I'll cut you some slack...and say I noticed several bad grades on this post for him. Damn...there are some tough fans around here. The guy plays 72 minutes in an 82-game season.....what exactly do you want from the guy?

Not some Bryant fan-boy BTW.....but god-damn. Seems really unfair to give this guy any sort of grade.

Turn it around then...... what grade do you give a guy who couldn't get more than 72 minutes on a 35 win team that had a ton of front court injuries in an admitted "Development" year?

Very smart basketball people didn't see fit to give him more than 72 minutes in a development year. That's what happened. Isn't it fair to grade his entire season including the part where he couldn't get playing time? You get playing time when the coaching staff believes you deserve it and just maybe he wasn't good enough at something we didn't see to displace guys like Zubac, Wear and Frye. Wouldn't that grade out at a pretty low grade for the year?

ok

[Landsberger]

I'll cut you some slack...and say I noticed several bad grades on this post for him. Damn...there are some tough fans around here. The guy plays 72 minutes in an 82-game season.....what exactly do you want from the guy?

Not some Bryant fan-boy BTW.....but god-damn. Seems really unfair to give this guy any sort of grade.

Turn it around then...... what grade do you give a guy who couldn't get more than 72 minutes on a 35 win team that had a ton of front court injuries in an admitted "Development" year?

Very smart basketball people didn't see fit to give him more than 72 minutes in a development year. That's what happened. Isn't it fair to grade his entire season including the part where he couldn't get playing time? You get playing time when the coaching staff believes you deserve it and just maybe he wasn't good enough at something we didn't see to displace guys like Zubac, Wear and Frye. Wouldn't that grade out at a pretty low grade for the year?

ok

I'm not dumping on the guy or you. It just seems that if you grade out a player who didn't play much at all the grade shouldn't be just on his PT, rather the entire season and getting on the floor is part of the season.... right?

I watched a lot of him and Zubac in the G league. They both put up 20-10 down there. Zu is more of a prototype and he's much larger than most of the front court guys in that league. Bryant was larger/faster/quicker than most of the bigs down there as well. Zu has issues with the strength and speed of the NBA and Bryant loses all of his advantages (size/strength/quickness) when he plays NBA competition. I think Zu could be a serviceable big off the bench on a team that values a back to the basket big. Bryant has a much harder road as a face up "modern" 4/5 guy. All of what gave him those gaudy stats in the G league is nullified by the competition at this level. He's got a long way to go in just understanding the game as he's very undisciplined. All of that added up to not getting on the floor for a team in a development year. That doesn't grade out well if you are grading him on performance and not on hope/wishes/potential. He needs a lot of time in development and I'm not sure the team going forward is looking to do that with guys.... they're hoping that we're closer to the end than the beginning in developing the team.

[Beethoven]

My season note is that I really dam hope that Lonzo works hard over the off season and gets some more aggressive offensive aspects to his game next year. Im really tempted to post his name in the gb fool's gold thread.

[danfantastk32]

My season note is that I really dam hope that Lonzo works hard over the off season and gets some more aggressive offensive aspects to his game next year. Im really tempted to post his name in the gb fool's gold thread.

I think there were aspects to his game that were really strong, but I do agree, that the shooting is unacceptable. Until he fixes that, he will have to work harder at everything. The game will come so much easier to him when defenses have to respect his shot.

[3nnui]

Player, grade, notes, keeper or gonner.

Lonzo B- love the defense, the passing, the game sense. Need him stronger, need him to finish. Pretty damn awesome for a 20 year old, reminds me of Kobe early on in that you could see he was not physically mature enough yet, but his game was going to be awesome

Ingram A I think he can develop into a top 5 player. If Kawhi was guarenteed healthy, i would be willing to make that trade, but since we don't know for certain about leonards health, then I think we should not trade him. Between his build, his touch and his approach to the game, I want to see what he looks like at 23-25 before I even think about trading him.

Randle B- A for effort, but he has limitations, finishing at the rim against a long defender will always be a problem for him, as will offensive fouls. He is still not a great defender, but his effort and his toughness make up for his shortcomings. I would not sacrifice a core member or a free agent signing (like PG or Klay) to keep him, but I would rather keep him than get someone like boogie.

Kuzma B+- really nice player, versatile and plays with a confidence and assertiveness that is rare. I saw him making real strides on defense. A wonderful stretch 4 once his defense improves, doubt he will ever have the defensive abliity to guard an elite 3.

Lopez C- he is what he is, nice guy and everything, but I wont miss him. If we are looking to preserve cap space for next year and throw him a bone, then sure, one year deal, but I wont have high expectations for the time while he is my starting center.

Hart B= another awesome surprise. This guy has the heart, toughness and hustle that make him someone who can contribute to a championship team. He reminds me of Fisher. Not the most physically gifted player, but strong, smart and tough.

Bryant- incomplete- what I did see in short runs with the varsity did not impress me, but I love his skillset and attitude, I hope he improves.

The Players below this line have little to no impact on our future.

GP II- not yet ready to be a rotation player, doubt he will ever be.

Wear- I appreciate his effort, he even contributed to a couple of wins. Maybe a next man up out of the rotation guy if he continues to develop.

Caruso- often seems outclassed in his matchup. But plays hard and tries to make the correct play.\

IT= garbage, and fools gold....please god no. If he is on the team next year I may take a break from watching the nba.

Zubac- Very disppointing. Still young and may develop, but he looked worse this year than last. If we can get something for him, move him, I hope he looks great in summer league and we can move him.

Ingram A- cool story, but why is his name here? Rather resign Nwaba.

Ennis- ugh, enough of this.

Deng- lol wut?