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Spurs actually have less shooting from deep. Sit on Marco and it’s a wrap

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Our 3 point shooting will be good. I'm far more concerned about our ft shooting. Lebron: meh. rondo: horrible. lonzo: horrible. lance stephenson: pretty bad everyone else: average.
nobody is money. Who the heck is going to take our technical shots? maybe Josh Hart. what if teams go to the 'hack a laker' strategy?
nobody is money. Who the heck is going to take our technical shots? maybe Josh Hart. what if teams go to the 'hack a laker' strategy?
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Edrees wrote:Our 3 point shooting will be good. I'm far more concerned about our ft shooting. Lebron: meh. rondo: horrible. lonzo: horrible. lance stephenson: pretty bad everyone else: average.
nobody is money. Who the heck is going to take our technical shots? maybe Josh Hart. what if teams go to the 'hack a laker' strategy?
So... Nick young for center?

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Danny Darko wrote:Edrees wrote:Our 3 point shooting will be good. I'm far more concerned about our ft shooting. Lebron: meh. rondo: horrible. lonzo: horrible. lance stephenson: pretty bad everyone else: average.
nobody is money. Who the heck is going to take our technical shots? maybe Josh Hart. what if teams go to the 'hack a laker' strategy?
So... Nick young for center?
That solves it.
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I think we're fine from downtown with what we have... That being said I don't see why Ball would shoot this bad again. Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, Beasley and our two rookies.
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I disagree with the premise. We’ll shoot just fine. Except from at the FT line. Playmakers have been a good focal point this summer. I’m sure Magic has stressed that we must play hard defense in order to run the breaks. That’s our new style of ball - showtime 2.0.
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Edrees wrote:Our 3 point shooting will be good. I'm far more concerned about our ft shooting. Lebron: meh. rondo: horrible. lonzo: horrible. lance stephenson: pretty bad everyone else: average.
nobody is money. Who the heck is going to take our technical shots? maybe Josh Hart. what if teams go to the 'hack a laker' strategy?
While everyone key's on the 3's because they are sexy.... this is a much more important aspect of the game when the playoffs are in the picture. The game slows down in the "second season" and teams play 7 games against each other. Good game planning finds these weaknesses and in close, hard fought games, a few free throws can cost you big time.
Who closes the game at the point? Neither of the point guards shoot FT's worth a damn. If I was down 2 to us with 20 seconds left I'd foul Lonzo every time.
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Landsberger wrote:Edrees wrote:Our 3 point shooting will be good. I'm far more concerned about our ft shooting. Lebron: meh. rondo: horrible. lonzo: horrible. lance stephenson: pretty bad everyone else: average.
nobody is money. Who the heck is going to take our technical shots? maybe Josh Hart. what if teams go to the 'hack a laker' strategy?
While everyone key's on the 3's because they are sexy.... this is a much more important aspect of the game when the playoffs are in the picture. The game slows down in the "second season" and teams play 7 games against each other. Good game planning finds these weaknesses and in close, hard fought games, a few free throws can cost you big time.
Who closes the game at the point? Neither of the point guards shoot FT's worth a damn. If I was down 2 to us with 20 seconds left I'd foul Lonzo every time.
I’d go with Svi for technicals. He’s our most natural shooter and seems fearless and absolutely confident. Free throws are freebies in his mind. I judge that based on what I saw in SL, hope stats back it up. Wagner is a natural shooter, too.
The playoffs do indeed slow down the game. The seven game series make that happen. Even if it seems to a lesser extent now that in the Shaq-Kobe-Phil era. The Warriors era has changed things a bit.
This is a worry I’ve had for this team under Magic’s vision. I guess it depends a little bit on just how good the defense is. It’s all good and fun to play hard nosed defense and run the break in the regular season, but then comes the half court offense and fouls on guards who can’t shoot FTs. But we do have strengths other teams don’t have. Like LBJ, Rondo, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Lonzo. Five of those players are elite defenders. All are serious offensive threats.
Point being, there will be some running the break even in the playoffs with this roster. We will make many points off of breakaway steals and forced turnovers. And, chase down blocks. Maybe enough to compensate for missed FTs?
This is why Magic’s vision will hinge largely on the level of defense they play. We will not have problems scoring enough with all these playmakers. Half court or not.
If I were Lonzo, I’d shoot 1000 FTs per day to get to close out games over Rondo, who shoots like 4%.
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stan francisco wrote:Landsberger wrote:Edrees wrote:Our 3 point shooting will be good. I'm far more concerned about our ft shooting. Lebron: meh. rondo: horrible. lonzo: horrible. lance stephenson: pretty bad everyone else: average.
nobody is money. Who the heck is going to take our technical shots? maybe Josh Hart. what if teams go to the 'hack a laker' strategy?
While everyone key's on the 3's because they are sexy.... this is a much more important aspect of the game when the playoffs are in the picture. The game slows down in the "second season" and teams play 7 games against each other. Good game planning finds these weaknesses and in close, hard fought games, a few free throws can cost you big time.
Who closes the game at the point? Neither of the point guards shoot FT's worth a damn. If I was down 2 to us with 20 seconds left I'd foul Lonzo every time.
I’d go with Svi for technicals. He’s our most natural shooter and seems fearless and absolutely confident. Free throws are freebies in his mind. I judge that based on what I saw in SL, hope stats back it up. Wagner is a natural shooter, too.
The playoffs do indeed slow down the game. The seven game series make that happen. Even if it seems to a lesser extent now that in the Shaq-Kobe-Phil era. The Warriors era has changed things a bit.
This is a worry I’ve had for this team under Magic’s vision. I guess it depends a little bit on just how good the defense is. It’s all good and fun to play hard nosed defense and run the break in the regular season, but then comes the half court offense and fouls on guards who can’t shoot FTs. But we do have strengths other teams don’t have. Like LBJ, Rondo, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Lonzo. Five of those players are elite defenders. All are serious offensive threats.
Point being, there will be some running the break even in the playoffs with this roster. We will make many points off of breakaway steals and forced turnovers. And, chase down blocks. Maybe enough to compensate for missed FTs?
This is why Magic’s vision will hinge largely on the level of defense they play. We will not have problems scoring enough with all these playmakers. Half court or not.
If I were Lonzo, I’d shoot 1000 FTs per day to get to close out games over Rondo, who shoots like 4%.
Not sure a rookie who will probably see more time in the G League than the NBA will help us shooting FT's. If we're in the playoff mix in a real way you can expect to see the veterans get the bulk of the time. They weren't brought in to sit behind developing youngsters.... that was last year.
The pace discussion is interesting to me. As a more seasoned fan I remember the 78-88 span where the average scoring in the NBA what about what GS does.... except the best teams shot about 50% as a team. The pace was much faster with the Showtime teams in the regular seasons but when the playoffs came Kareem was the key to the Lakers success. 4th quarters were typically low scoring, walk it up scenarios with everything going through Kareem or Worthy in the post. Magic should know that we aren't running to a title.... even he didn't in the a much higher scoring era. Having Magic AND Kareem is what made those teams special. It's no coincidence that when Kareem declined the team did as well. Worthy was a great wing on the break but he had issues carrying the offense in the half court over time. Bron gives you the best of both worlds IMHO. He can run with the best and he can score in the half court when forced to slow down.
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Magic had 3 finals MVPs between 80 and 87... Kareem had 1...
Just saying.
Just saying.

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Kilroy wrote:Magic had 3 finals MVPs between 80 and 87... Kareem had 1...
Just saying.
....and 1 was given to him even though the votes were for Kareem... because CBS and the NBA wanted to give it to Magic because Kareem was back in LA according to Bill Livingston..... just saying....
Kareem closed those series... Magic was very important in the later part of that run but he had his not so great moments in the finals as well. 84 for example.
The 2 of them and the combination they brought was the reason they won. Showtime from the 4 minute mark of the 1st quarter to 10 minutes left in the game..... then it was Cap-time. From about 82-88 Kareem put up about 60% of his points in the 4th quarter while shooting above his season averages.
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Landsberger wrote:stan francisco wrote:Landsberger wrote:
While everyone key's on the 3's because they are sexy.... this is a much more important aspect of the game when the playoffs are in the picture. The game slows down in the "second season" and teams play 7 games against each other. Good game planning finds these weaknesses and in close, hard fought games, a few free throws can cost you big time.
Who closes the game at the point? Neither of the point guards shoot FT's worth a damn. If I was down 2 to us with 20 seconds left I'd foul Lonzo every time.
I’d go with Svi for technicals. He’s our most natural shooter and seems fearless and absolutely confident. Free throws are freebies in his mind. I judge that based on what I saw in SL, hope stats back it up. Wagner is a natural shooter, too.
The playoffs do indeed slow down the game. The seven game series make that happen. Even if it seems to a lesser extent now that in the Shaq-Kobe-Phil era. The Warriors era has changed things a bit.
This is a worry I’ve had for this team under Magic’s vision. I guess it depends a little bit on just how good the defense is. It’s all good and fun to play hard nosed defense and run the break in the regular season, but then comes the half court offense and fouls on guards who can’t shoot FTs. But we do have strengths other teams don’t have. Like LBJ, Rondo, Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Lonzo. Five of those players are elite defenders. All are serious offensive threats.
Point being, there will be some running the break even in the playoffs with this roster. We will make many points off of breakaway steals and forced turnovers. And, chase down blocks. Maybe enough to compensate for missed FTs?
This is why Magic’s vision will hinge largely on the level of defense they play. We will not have problems scoring enough with all these playmakers. Half court or not.
If I were Lonzo, I’d shoot 1000 FTs per day to get to close out games over Rondo, who shoots like 4%.
Not sure a rookie who will probably see more time in the G League than the NBA will help us shooting FT's. If we're in the playoff mix in a real way you can expect to see the veterans get the bulk of the time. They weren't brought in to sit behind developing youngsters.... that was last year.
The pace discussion is interesting to me. As a more seasoned fan I remember the 78-88 span where the average scoring in the NBA what about what GS does.... except the best teams shot about 50% as a team. The pace was much faster with the Showtime teams in the regular seasons but when the playoffs came Kareem was the key to the Lakers success. 4th quarters were typically low scoring, walk it up scenarios with everything going through Kareem or Worthy in the post. Magic should know that we aren't running to a title.... even he didn't in the a much higher scoring era. Having Magic AND Kareem is what made those teams special. It's no coincidence that when Kareem declined the team did as well. Worthy was a great wing on the break but he had issues carrying the offense in the half court over time. Bron gives you the best of both worlds IMHO. He can run with the best and he can score in the half court when forced to slow down.
Yeah, I’m hoping for either AD or KAT in a year or two so we can see that inside-out again. LBJ is a formidable low post anchor and so was Julius but neither a permanent solution. I’m sure Magic is looking at the really big fish.
Btw, I only said Svi for technical free throws. Lol.
I see us trading Deng for Noah to put us in a better position should one of the big names want out. A package of Noah (exp), Zubac, Wagner and a pick or two could be a pretty good save-face return for Minnesota for instance.
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64% FT in the W at Portland. Both Lonzo and Ingram are terrible this year, Hart too. Is this something that can be fixed this season?
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Rondo is our best shooter statistically from everywhere..... including 100% from the line! Who saw that coming?.....
He's actually not been a statistically bad shooter for a few years. He's taking shots he can make. That's what happens to most players as the get a few years in the league. Making shots they couldn't is less of the improvement but the bulk of it is not taking the shots that they can't make.
As for FT's.... If I were Luke I'd dish out playing time based on FT shooting to those 2. No excuse for it. Especially Ball. That will limit his ability to close games out. Right now we have to have him be the inbound passer late in games because he sucks at FT's.
He's actually not been a statistically bad shooter for a few years. He's taking shots he can make. That's what happens to most players as the get a few years in the league. Making shots they couldn't is less of the improvement but the bulk of it is not taking the shots that they can't make.
As for FT's.... If I were Luke I'd dish out playing time based on FT shooting to those 2. No excuse for it. Especially Ball. That will limit his ability to close games out. Right now we have to have him be the inbound passer late in games because he sucks at FT's.