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Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) - WIN - 10-7

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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#101 » by dockingsched » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:53 am

Love what I saw from Zo as far as attacking the rim.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#102 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:59 am

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Ballerhogger wrote:Ingram is frustrating watch , you see the talent but not the consistence. Take the W


I actually don’t see the talent to be a consistent lead scorer in him. He’s slow with the ball, has little ability to elevate in traffic and can’t create space to shoot without a screen. Having him initiate is making him inconsistent. If he were playing off the ball and moving to the open spaces he’s get better looks IMHO. He rarely has an uncontested shot.

He can get to rack most the time he has the ball, he can spot up shoot . He did tonight in big spot with shot clock running out
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#103 » by what would jack bauer do? » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:01 am

ZO looks like he finally has his legs after not playing all summer. Last couple games he's been active on attacking passing lanes and digging down to get steals. Last year he just about averaged a block per game too. It's gonna be scary when he gets all of his timing. All we need now is to move Ingram to his true position as our sf (off the bench like ginobili) and he'll start producing up to expectations.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#104 » by Dr Aki » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:08 am

Almost forgot...

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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#105 » by jbk1234 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:09 am

TylersLakers wrote:Thanks to Cleveland for rolling out their tank and hardly playing Korver and benching Clarkson in the last few minutes. We wouldn't have won if that didn't happen.


Clarkson got benched for arguing the non-call and letting the Lakers get off a 5-4 fast break in final minutes. I don't have an issue with it tbh.
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Post#106 » by TylersLakers » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:11 am

Ingram said he's going to eat a plate from everyone's thanksgiving who will have him. I really hope so. Some of you guys should bring that skinny MF'er multiple plates.
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Post#107 » by TylersLakers » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:13 am

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TylersLakers wrote:Thanks to Cleveland for rolling out their tank and hardly playing Korver and benching Clarkson in the last few minutes. We wouldn't have won if that didn't happen.


Clarkson got benched for arguing the non-call and letting the Lakers get off a 5-4 fast break in final minutes. I don't have an issue with it tbh.


Yeah, I noticed that as well. But as a coach, you gotta rely on the horses that got you there. Bringing David Nwaba in the game and having him share a basketball court with Tristan Thompson is not ideal for trying to win games. Korver has to be in the game down the stretch, especially when he's shooting the way he was tonight.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#108 » by tugs » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:17 am

jbk1234 wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:Thanks to Cleveland for rolling out their tank and hardly playing Korver and benching Clarkson in the last few minutes. We wouldn't have won if that didn't happen.


Clarkson got benched for arguing the non-call and letting the Lakers get off a 5-4 fast break in final minutes. I don't have an issue with it tbh.
This was the play I was referring to regarding Clarkson testing the waters if he's already eligible for superstar calls. He needs to learn how to create contact and not force shots when it's not there. Either make or fish.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#109 » by jbk1234 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:19 am

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TylersLakers wrote:Thanks to Cleveland for rolling out their tank and hardly playing Korver and benching Clarkson in the last few minutes. We wouldn't have won if that didn't happen.


Clarkson got benched for arguing the non-call and letting the Lakers get off a 5-4 fast break in final minutes. I don't have an issue with it tbh.


Yeah, I noticed that as well. But as a coach, you gotta rely on the horses that got you there. Bringing David Nwaba in the game and having him share a basketball court with Tristan Thompson is not ideal for trying to win games. Korver has to be in the game down the stretch, especially when he's shooting the way he was tonight.


The problem is that when you play Clarkson and Korver together, Korver doesn't get touches. When Clarkson is shooting well. he's not about passing the ball.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) - WIN - 10-7 

Post#110 » by Laker_Kid » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:20 am

if ball can be this aggressive, id be satisfied.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) - WIN - 10-7 

Post#111 » by hazy_01 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:25 am

Laker_Kid wrote:if ball can be this aggressive, id be satisfied.


And Ingram hitting 3's and getting to the line
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Post#112 » by TylersLakers » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:28 am

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Clarkson got benched for arguing the non-call and letting the Lakers get off a 5-4 fast break in final minutes. I don't have an issue with it tbh.


Yeah, I noticed that as well. But as a coach, you gotta rely on the horses that got you there. Bringing David Nwaba in the game and having him share a basketball court with Tristan Thompson is not ideal for trying to win games. Korver has to be in the game down the stretch, especially when he's shooting the way he was tonight.


The problem is that when you play Clarkson and Korver together, Korver doesn't get touches. When Clarkson is shooting well. he's not about passing the ball.


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Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) - WIN - 10-7 

Post#113 » by Laker_Kid » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:51 am

celtics lost, warriors lost, spurs lost, and we beat the team that’s been to the finals for 4 straight years!!! we are invincible now!!!!!
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) - WIN - 10-7 

Post#114 » by Crooked-I » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:56 am

We've been getting Ws, but don't really think we are playing that well. Lebron just went back to being god like which is why we're getting Ws. Need to start seeing more from Ingram and Kuz. They've been huge disappointments so far. Even Hart has regressed the last couple of games. These guys need to start stepping it up or Magic gonna ship their ass out.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) - WIN - 10-7 

Post#115 » by Spanish_Laker » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:15 am

Ugly W, but I'll take it. We need to rack up as many Ws as possible. Team will play better eventually, they need more time to gel together. Finally a good game by Lonzo, if he keeps up that aggressiveness, he will be just fine.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#116 » by Landsberger » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:46 pm

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Ballerhogger wrote:Ingram is frustrating watch , you see the talent but not the consistence. Take the W


I actually don’t see the talent to be a consistent lead scorer in him. He’s slow with the ball, has little ability to elevate in traffic and can’t create space to shoot without a screen. Having him initiate is making him inconsistent. If he were playing off the ball and moving to the open spaces he’s get better looks IMHO. He rarely has an uncontested shot.

He can get to rack most the time he has the ball, he can spot up shoot . He did tonight in big spot with shot clock running out


He can.... but not as a primary scorer on a playoff level team.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) - WIN - 10-7 

Post#117 » by Landsberger » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:48 pm

In boxscore browsing it seems when Kuzma has more shots than Ingram we have a lot better offensive games. Situations are important in this but at that level when Kuzma is getting between 8-10 shots we struggle and when he's getting 10-15 we do much better offensively. For some reason his minutes have been cut back the last 5 games or so. Granted he's struggled at time but so have just about everyone else no named LeBron. For some reason when Ingram is sucking he still gets the same burn.
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Post#118 » by bb22 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:18 pm

TylersLakers wrote:
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TylersLakers wrote:No idea what KCP was doing on that Korver shot attempt.


He was playing the switch.... like he was supposed to. Ball had his back to Nance to start and then got screened and couldn’t get the switch done.


Yeah, but when the screener is Nance and Lonzo's fighting through that screen? You gotta get in the picture instead of just standing there and switching onto Nance.

Like what Kuzma did the next possession when Osman made the three. Kuzma tried like hell to get around. And it would have made it a tough shot if LeBron stepped up.


If you watch closely, Nance was facing the basket and clearly holding Lonzo with his arms, so that is technically an offensive foul. Still, Lonzo should have either sold the foul or done a better job avoiding Nance, rather than getting into a grappling match and leaving Korver open.
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Re: Game 17: Los Angeles Lakers (9-7) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (2-13) 

Post#119 » by JohnVancouver » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:46 pm

jbk1234 wrote:The problem is that when you play Clarkson and Korver together, Korver doesn't get touches. When Clarkson is shooting well. he's not about passing the ball.


JC not about passing the ball? Reverend, you preaching to the choir around here
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