Game 35: Los Angeles Lakers (20-14) @ Sacramento Kings (18-16) - LOSS - 20-15

[Laker_Kid]

Kuzma was 2 turnovers 1-3 in the fourth before that shot went in. We ignoring he fouled a bad three point shot he committed to praise a clutch 3? Iso ball was the whole problem in the 4th.

Yeah... we get it. Kuz sucks and Ingram is great because he blocked a shot. Cool to be a "player fan" I guess.

Both of them couldn't of have played terrible second halves?

sure, let’s say that. but ingram’s mistakes weighed more in the loss. he killed our offense while simultaneously giving them the momentum. how about that?

[Showtime:Part2]

we’d be hovering around 10th seed if lose the next 2 games

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[kobe_vs_jordan]

Both of them couldn't of have played terrible second halves?

You point out Kuzma's mistakes while not seeing he played great defense and scored 33 points on 50% shooting. He easily could have had 6 FT's in the first 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter as well. While ignoring that you point out Ingram's defense yet he was out of position multiple times on the boards in key situations where we gave up second chance points. All that length everyone loves to point out got 3 boards.

Truth is that we could have lost the game on the possession when they missed two layups. The momentum changed however when Ingram took 3 straight possessions all to himself about 5 minutes earlier. Kuz over hustled on a scramble after an offensive board.... Ingram chose to pound the ball. There is a difference there.

I pointed out a lot of players . Lakers didn't not have a non Lonzo assist in the 4th quarter. That's terrible. Kuzma had it going on offense but he had 4 second half turnovers and one assist to show for it. In a one possession game, one less silly mistake from the Lakers wins them the game.

My point isn't to start a Kuzma vs Ingram debate. More so that people are down on a 21 year old player trying to figure it out offensively. It's not going to be Ingram last bad game.

[TyCobb]

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[BEazy]

All I know is we can't be losing to trash teams like this.

[Showtime:Part2]

This game is on Brandon and Zubac. Hard to blame zu considering he was nobody two weeks ago but after the last few games I expected better than constant turnovers. Kick it out pal, you’re not shaq, you’re a guy who catches lobs for bunnies

Also is it just me or do we have more problems staying healthy than any other team in this league (is there somewhere to see Average games missed per team barring season long injuries like acl/Achilles)? Our training staff is straight garbage imo.

[Slink]

The only starter coming in focused was Ball. Kuz and BI combined for 11 TOs. We'll see how they respond next game, especially BI.

[Showtime:Part2]

Both of them couldn't of have played terrible second halves?

You point out Kuzma's mistakes while not seeing he played great defense and scored 33 points on 50% shooting. He easily could have had 6 FT's in the first 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter as well. While ignoring that you point out Ingram's defense yet he was out of position multiple times on the boards in key situations where we gave up second chance points. All that length everyone loves to point out got 3 boards.

Truth is that we could have lost the game on the possession when they missed two layups. The momentum changed however when Ingram took 3 straight possessions all to himself about 5 minutes earlier. Kuz over hustled on a scramble after an offensive board.... Ingram chose to pound the ball. There is a difference there.

I pointed out a lot of players . Lakers didn't not have a non Lonzo assist in the 4th quarter. That's terrible. Kuzma had it going on offense but he had 4 second half turnovers and one assist to show for it. In a one possession game, one less silly mistake from the Lakers wins them the game.

My point isn't to start a Kuzma vs Ingram debate. More so that people are down on a 21 year old player trying to figure it out offensively. It's not going to be Ingram last bad game.

Have been waiting this whole season for him to have a really good complete game. Ingram is trash.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

You point out Kuzma's mistakes while not seeing he played great defense and scored 33 points on 50% shooting. He easily could have had 6 FT's in the first 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter as well. While ignoring that you point out Ingram's defense yet he was out of position multiple times on the boards in key situations where we gave up second chance points. All that length everyone loves to point out got 3 boards.

Truth is that we could have lost the game on the possession when they missed two layups. The momentum changed however when Ingram took 3 straight possessions all to himself about 5 minutes earlier. Kuz over hustled on a scramble after an offensive board.... Ingram chose to pound the ball. There is a difference there.

I pointed out a lot of players . Lakers didn't not have a non Lonzo assist in the 4th quarter. That's terrible. Kuzma had it going on offense but he had 4 second half turnovers and one assist to show for it. In a one possession game, one less silly mistake from the Lakers wins them the game.

My point isn't to start a Kuzma vs Ingram debate. More so that people are down on a 21 year old player trying to figure it out offensively. It's not going to be Ingram last bad game.

Have been waiting this whole season for him to have a really good complete game. Ingram is trash.

He need to find a way to combine last year decision making with this year mid range jumper. Him getting 2 assist in a non Lebron game is a disappointment.

[Showtime:Part2]

I pointed out a lot of players . Lakers didn't not have a non Lonzo assist in the 4th quarter. That's terrible. Kuzma had it going on offense but he had 4 second half turnovers and one assist to show for it. In a one possession game, one less silly mistake from the Lakers wins them the game.

My point isn't to start a Kuzma vs Ingram debate. More so that people are down on a 21 year old player trying to figure it out offensively. It's not going to be Ingram last bad game.

Have been waiting this whole season for him to have a really good complete game. Ingram is trash.

He need to find a way to combine last year decision making with this year mid range jumper. Him getting 2 assist in a non Lebron game is a disappointment.

Just saying if you’re 40% through the season and last season had probably 5+ better games than any single game you’ve had this year.... if that were to translate to my industry I’d be cautious about my job. Shape up or ship out time. Homeboy can’t improve at 21 years of age? Only thing going for him is that half the young guys this year regressed majorly (brown, Mitchell etc) so on a relative basis he’s not complete trash, just not very good

[arkuo]

Ingram isnt gonna get his max contract if he keeps playin this way.

[Showtime:Part2]

Also, just to clear any confusion. Can we finally do a marijuana drug test on Ingram lol. I mean the plays he makes you gotta be high as a kite to make those mistakes with his skills/athleticism. It’s also not unheard of for some nba players to be high during games. I know this sounds like some tin hat conspiracy, but Pelinka should just Throw him a surprise halftime drug test next game

[Showtime:Part2]

Ingram isnt gonna get his max contract if he keeps playin this way.

He’s closer to an mle than a a max right now anyway so moot point

[Spanish_Laker]

The main problem with this team was, is and will be FT shooting. We have lost 4-5 games due to this. The young core played well, on to the next one. Must win next to games, if not, we are out of playoff seedings. This can't go on a 5-6-7 or 8-game winning streak, almost any team can do it in the league except us...

[stan francisco]

...people are down on a 21 year old player trying to figure it out offensively. It's not going to be Ingram last bad game.

This.

I’m thrilled with how they played for 3.5 quarters. Then they started wondering who’s the closer.

This is what I would call a good loss. The lessons best learned are the ones that hurt. This one hurt. They will not let this happen again anytime soon. Come fourth quarter, this group will tighten it up.

Zubac will learn tons in the film room from this. Mental mistakes like certain types of turnovers can be switched off instantly in a film room a-ha moment.

They gained lots of experience in this game. First looking raw, then dominated the Kings for most of the game. Two 23 year olds and three 21 year olds beating any NBA team is stellar.

Whatever opponent is up next, I have a feeling we’ll crush them.

[evilpimp972]

Man this was the most fun I had watching a lakers game this year...until that Bogda kid hit that shot.
Lonzo with the best game of this life maybe? It's cool to see

[TylersLakers]

All I know is we can't be losing to trash teams like this.

I wouldn't consider Sacramento trash but you're correct. This loss against a buzzerbeating fluke three-pointer doesn't hurt if you take care of the San Antonio @ home, the Orlando @ home, the Memphis @ home, the Wizards on the road, etc. So when you lose this on top of the crap games we've lost, it's a problem.

[Slink]

Also, just to clear any confusion. Can we finally do a marijuana drug test on Ingram lol. I mean the plays he makes you gotta be high as a kite to make those mistakes with his skills/athleticism. It’s also not unheard of for some nba players to be high during games. I know this sounds like some tin hat conspiracy, but Pelinka should just Throw him a surprise halftime drug test next game

We've got our own JR Smith. Bron will be so happy.

[Landsberger]

Both of them couldn't of have played terrible second halves?

You point out Kuzma's mistakes while not seeing he played great defense and scored 33 points on 50% shooting. He easily could have had 6 FT's in the first 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter as well. While ignoring that you point out Ingram's defense yet he was out of position multiple times on the boards in key situations where we gave up second chance points. All that length everyone loves to point out got 3 boards.

Truth is that we could have lost the game on the possession when they missed two layups. The momentum changed however when Ingram took 3 straight possessions all to himself about 5 minutes earlier. Kuz over hustled on a scramble after an offensive board.... Ingram chose to pound the ball. There is a difference there.

I pointed out a lot of players . Lakers didn't not have a non Lonzo assist in the 4th quarter. That's terrible. Kuzma had it going on offense but he had 4 second half turnovers and one assist to show for it. In a one possession game, one less silly mistake from the Lakers wins them the game.

My point isn't to start a Kuzma vs Ingram debate. More so that people are down on a 21 year old player trying to figure it out offensively. It's not going to be Ingram last bad game.

I don't buy the "young" stuff entirely when looking at our younger guys. History shows that the top 10 players in the league all were showing their greatness by the second year regardless of their age. Ingram is going to be a good player....he isn't going to be special or even un-tradable by any means. His effectiveness comes from isolation. You point out Kuzma's assists but he ended up with more than Ingram while handling the ball in his hands about half the time. Ingram's game is slow and methodical and he needs isolation to be effective. His length doesn't translate to rebounds. He has limited athleticism for a guy his size in today's NBA. He doesn't have quick jumping ability and lacks strength to score on the interior. His stretch at the beginning of the 4th quarter slowed down and stagnated our offense. That changed the momentum. Luke keeps playing him like a number one scorer and he continues to break the offense.

Look, I like the guy overall and my criticism isn't just limited to him. We have LeBron now and Ingram's game is entirely redundant. Kuzma isn't the complete player Ingram is...but he FITS our system and complements our superstar. I want a complete and balanced team.... it's what we will need to win a championship. I have no loyalty to any of the young players over the team so that's how I view it overall. Future growth of Ingram's game will happen.... changing it completely won't. The decision should be to trade him before we have to "invest" long term in him. His ceiling isn't high enough to re-sign him long term IMHO.

[JohnVancouver]

This is the first game Ingram's iso fixation really bothered me - I like the kid but ... I'm also aware of all the things he does well. They just don't seem like enough, you know?