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Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17)

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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#181 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:46 pm

milesfides wrote: Not taking away what Lebron did in the past. But he won't be the same player in the next three and a half years. He's already had his worst injury of his career and hasn't played defense for over two seasons.


I'm not trying to get into an argument....as I think you have some valid points. But he did take one of those bag of rocks to the finals last year. We're not talking about 5 long years ago, or anything. This was 7 months ago.

I'm a tad concerned about the groin injury, and I do think the downhill has started. But he's averaging 27-7-8 this season, which is right at (ever so slightly above) his career averages. So I don't think we have Lebron "at the end".

I think Lebron the next 3-1/2 years will be better than PG his next 3-1/2 years.

Why PG refused to even meet? I guess it's his business. But it's not like he's not playing 2nd-fiddle over there. I'd argue he has to adjust his game just as much with Westbrook....but I question the reward. They aren't a finals contender...no way, no how. I don't think Magic / Rob made the wrong move. I think PG made the wrong move. What's more, I think PG thinks PG made the wrong move (Unless it really was all about the $$$).

We'll see. If the tires start coming off Lebron...then we got unlucky. Considering the season he had less than 2 months before we signed him.....I really can't say we made a dumb choice, or took a huge risk. I think everyone concedes that the last year of his contract will be a bit questionable....but let's see what happens. If we get a good side-kick like A-D or Kawhi, or Durant, or Klay, or someone....Lebron will prob be just fine in his 4th year.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#182 » by stan francisco » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:45 am

Landsberger wrote:
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stan francisco wrote:It’s a W. I think Lonzo will seriously challenge RW tonight, hold him to a low percentage. Lonzo is the player of the game, we win. Why? Rondo will have a great scouting report for Lonzo on every PG in the league; especially the best ones like Westbrook.


Didn’t watch the game yet. Was I right?


He played well..... except down the stretch where he made a few key mistakes that sent the game into overtime. He and Kuz pulled it out in OT. Zubac was very solid. Westbrook is shooting a very low percentage right now anyway so nothing new in this game. He actually was left wide open at the 3 point line by design. It was burning us early.

Good game for Zu, Kuz, Ball and Hart. Ingram was active initially but then went ghost in the second half. One thing that came out of this game is that OKC isn't that good. With 2 players the caliber of PG and Westbrook who both get stats it's strange how unorganized they are. They lack leadership.

On to the next one.... hoping for followthrough.


Thanks for the recap. Some TV hosts are saying Lonzo has arrived, that he should bottle it up and build from here. Worthy said he was shocked, best game of the year. Thrilled to hear Zu was physically aggressive going at Adams. I’ve been waiting for physicality to enter his low post game. He already has better touch and passing ability than most bigs in the post; just needs to bulk up and strengthen his core and lower body so he can get more minutes.

At 22, he could be a top 5-10 center. That’s scary good drafting; and he is already very good trade material should AD want to shake loose.

As much as I love Zu, I think Mo might become even better. I’d love to keep both.


PG is absolutely a fool for missing the train but what else is new? That’s why I didn’t want him here. Like I said then, no team with a bonehead like PG13 as their second best player or better will ever win rings. He’s gifted but has such a high sense of entitlement and inflated ego that the net takeaway (locker room etc) is not worth the sticker price. He also often makes mental mistakes.

Is he an elite defender? No doubt. Would he and Bron hypothetically have won rings if together here? Depends on who our second best player would be. If PG13, no.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#183 » by milesfides » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:42 am

How can you call Lebron’s decline unlucky? It would be absolutely expected and normal. Anything beyond that would be historic or a miracle.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#184 » by sardines » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:22 am

stan francisco wrote:
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stan francisco wrote:
Didn’t watch the game yet. Was I right?


He played well..... except down the stretch where he made a few key mistakes that sent the game into overtime. He and Kuz pulled it out in OT. Zubac was very solid. Westbrook is shooting a very low percentage right now anyway so nothing new in this game. He actually was left wide open at the 3 point line by design. It was burning us early.

Good game for Zu, Kuz, Ball and Hart. Ingram was active initially but then went ghost in the second half. One thing that came out of this game is that OKC isn't that good. With 2 players the caliber of PG and Westbrook who both get stats it's strange how unorganized they are. They lack leadership.

On to the next one.... hoping for followthrough.


Thanks for the recap. Some TV hosts are saying Lonzo has arrived, that he should bottle it up and build from here. Worthy said he was shocked, best game of the year. Thrilled to hear Zu was physically aggressive going at Adams. I’ve been waiting for physicality to enter his low post game. He already has better touch and passing ability than most bigs in the post; just needs to bulk up and strengthen his core and lower body so he can get more minutes.

At 22, he could be a top 5-10 center. That’s scary good drafting; and he is already very good trade material should AD want to shake loose.

As much as I love Zu, I think Mo might become even better. I’d love to keep both.


PG is absolutely a fool for missing the train but what else is new? That’s why I didn’t want him here. Like I said then, no team with a bonehead like PG13 as their second best player or better will ever win rings. He’s gifted but has such a high sense of entitlement and inflated ego that the net takeaway (locker room etc) is not worth the sticker price. He also often makes mental mistakes.

Is he an elite defender? No doubt. Would he and Bron hypothetically have won rings if together here? Depends on who our second best player would be. If PG13, no.


Mo can't bang inside with the big boys. Zu needs to develop his 3 point shot like Marc Gasol.......then the Lakers got their center for years to come. I tell you, Zu has a sweet shooting stroke.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#185 » by stan francisco » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:42 am

I know. So if AD wants out we’ll have our own home grown trade return ready.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#186 » by danfantastk32 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:18 am

milesfides wrote:How can you call Lebron’s decline unlucky? It would be absolutely expected and normal. Anything beyond that would be historic or a miracle.


Well, I said if the tires come off. Thats a much different concept than basic decline. Of course he's gonna decline. All human beings do. A steady 5-6 year decline would be absolutely expected, and Lebron would still be a great player for most of those years, and a good player the rest.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#187 » by Tee212 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:02 am

dAdo dA dEvil wrote:
Tee212 wrote:we won end of game cause luke let zo handle the offense late in OT and out of BI's hands


We just can't be happy and content that we won, right? There's still the urge to bash somebody from this team? Had we lost this game the story line would be Zo making dumb decision late in the 4th. But yeah, I'll take the win. So happy our young core showed up today to play.



no im not happy yet, bi still irritating to watch going iso
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#188 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:13 pm

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dAdo dA dEvil wrote:
Tee212 wrote:we won end of game cause luke let zo handle the offense late in OT and out of BI's hands


We just can't be happy and content that we won, right? There's still the urge to bash somebody from this team? Had we lost this game the story line would be Zo making dumb decision late in the 4th. But yeah, I'll take the win. So happy our young core showed up today to play.



no im not happy yet, bi still irritating to watch going iso


Well, you'll have to endure at least until LeBron comes back. It's growing pains.
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Re: Game 46: Los Angeles Lakers (24-21) @ Oklahoma City Thunder (26-17) 

Post#189 » by milesfides » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:54 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
milesfides wrote:How can you call Lebron’s decline unlucky? It would be absolutely expected and normal. Anything beyond that would be historic or a miracle.


Well, I said if the tires come off. Thats a much different concept than basic decline. Of course he's gonna decline. All human beings do. A steady 5-6 year decline would be absolutely expected, and Lebron would still be a great player for most of those years, and a good player the rest.


I don’t disagree with that as a best case scenario, but to me that’s still a deal breaker for winning championships. There will be a good number of players on contending teams who will be better than Lebron over the next four seasons, so why should we be happy with such a handicap?

No, I want the absolute best players over the next four years. Because they’ll be the ones winning championships.

And I guess it’s a matter of opinion, but I think Paul George who will likely be a DPOY and MVP candidate every year between 28-31 years old would be better than Lebron between 34-37.



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