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Post#21 » by DanishLakerFan » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:05 pm

kio80 wrote:Trade josh hart for fultz, problem solved for both teams


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KCP for Fultz.
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Post#22 » by Laker_Kid » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:49 pm

Bi will be the point guard
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Post#23 » by mcscotty » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:52 pm

If Jameer Nelson is available on a 10 day contract, we should bring him in.
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Post#24 » by kio80 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:18 pm

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kio80 wrote:Trade josh hart for fultz, problem solved for both teams


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KCP for Fultz.


Amir plus a 2nd rounder for KCP, that’s all he’s worth, at most


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Post#25 » by stan francisco » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:19 pm

KCP is playing for his life, currently. I’ll forgive him one mental mistake guarding Harden that whole game. But, what value he is to a team that needs A) a shot in the arm for the playoffs, or B) a big expiring deal.

I expect him traded by the deadline.
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Post#26 » by jazzfan1971 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:36 pm

Slava wrote:Would Utah deal Raul Neto for a 2nd?


Nope. Jazz have been trading away 2nds lately for next to nothing. Sold a couple, used one to move up 2 slots in the very very late 1st. Plus, Jazz are having a very similar PG injury issue with Rubio, Exum, and Neto all injured. If Neto is healthy enough to play we NEED him to play.

Even if everyone was healthy Jazz would still turn down this though IMHO.
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Post#27 » by Slava » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:46 pm

kio80 wrote:Trade josh hart for fultz, problem solved for both teams


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Yeah let's trade for a PG who cannot play or shoot when he does play and is on the hook for $10M next season. Terrific idea.
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Post#28 » by Showtime:Part2 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:14 pm

I really don’t get the rush if rondo is coming back soon. Bi and lance can cover for a game or two.
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Post#29 » by stan francisco » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:28 am

Showtime:Part2 wrote:I really don’t get the rush if rondo is coming back soon. Bi and lance can cover for a game or two.


This. LBJ will be 100% when he is coming back. Rondo is coming back. We’re bringing up Caruso and Bonga from the SB Lakers. That’s four ball handlers we currently don’t have.

Plus, BI can distribute a bit, and Lance.
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Post#30 » by kio80 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:01 pm

Slava wrote:
kio80 wrote:Trade josh hart for fultz, problem solved for both teams


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Yeah let's trade for a PG who cannot play or shoot when he does play and is on the hook for $10M next season. Terrific idea.


Fultz can play, but he won’t be able to shine in philly. He needs a new environment.
This kid can ball, and he will get his shot back.
Lonzo can’t shoot as well, or barely....
Think of fultz as a more athletic finisher than ball without the full court passes.


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Post#31 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 am

kio80 wrote:
Slava wrote:
kio80 wrote:Trade josh hart for fultz, problem solved for both teams


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Yeah let's trade for a PG who cannot play or shoot when he does play and is on the hook for $10M next season. Terrific idea.


Fultz can play, but he won’t be able to shine in philly. He needs a new environment.
This kid can ball, and he will get his shot back.
Lonzo can’t shoot as well, or barely....
Think of fultz as a more athletic finisher than ball without the full court passes.



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So that's why we aren't trading for Fultz. We already have shooting issues in this team. We don't need another guy who can't shoot. And I'm picking Lonzo's passing over Fultz athletic finishing. Hart can shoot and finish better than Fultz plus Hart is not injury prone like Fultz.
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Post#32 » by Spens1 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:20 am

kio80 wrote:Trade josh hart for fultz, problem solved for both teams


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I actually wouldn't mind that provided we got some medical reports indicating he'd actually be fine.
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Post#33 » by kio80 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:27 am

dAdo dA dEvil wrote:
kio80 wrote:
Slava wrote:
Yeah let's trade for a PG who cannot play or shoot when he does play and is on the hook for $10M next season. Terrific idea.


Fultz can play, but he won’t be able to shine in philly. He needs a new environment.
This kid can ball, and he will get his shot back.
Lonzo can’t shoot as well, or barely....
Think of fultz as a more athletic finisher than ball without the full court passes.



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So that's why we aren't trading for Fultz. We already have shooting issues in this team. We don't need another guy who can't shoot. And I'm picking Lonzo's passing over Fultz athletic finishing. Hart can shoot and finish better than Fultz plus Hart is not injury prone like Fultz.


It’s a gamble, Fultz has a much higher ceiling than Hart on paper.
Fultz was actually shooting well in college, and he finishes at the rim as well if not better than Hart.
He is also a better defender than Hart.
Hart struggles to stay in front of his man in many occasions, for some reason and sidesteps seems extremely clumsy.



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Post#34 » by MAMBAEMD » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:32 am

My suspicion is that Fultz problem are more about his cranium than his thoracic outlet
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Post#35 » by VCfor3 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:50 am

I don't know how you guys feel about Shelvin Mack, but he'd be cheap to acquire if the Grizzlies go through with the blow up.
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Post#36 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:04 am

kio80 wrote:
dAdo dA dEvil wrote:
kio80 wrote:
Fultz can play, but he won’t be able to shine in philly. He needs a new environment.
This kid can ball, and he will get his shot back.
Lonzo can’t shoot as well, or barely....
Think of fultz as a more athletic finisher than ball without the full court passes.



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So that's why we aren't trading for Fultz. We already have shooting issues in this team. We don't need another guy who can't shoot. And I'm picking Lonzo's passing over Fultz athletic finishing. Hart can shoot and finish better than Fultz plus Hart is not injury prone like Fultz.


It’s a gamble, Fultz has a much higher ceiling than Hart on paper.
Fultz was actually shooting well in college, and he finishes at the rim as well if not better than Hart.
He is also a better defender than Hart.
Hart struggles to stay in front of his man in many occasions, for some reason and sidesteps seems extremely clumsy.



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A gamble mostly for the Lakers so I'd say no. Right now Hart is playing better than Fultz. Hart is an awful perimeter defender and fouls a three point shooter at least once a game, but Hart is solid in defending bigs which is actually interesting given his height which is very undersized. You can see that Hart is at least trying and is a very good rebounder for his size. And the very fact that Hart is playing and Fultz is not and is very injury prone makes me say no to this trade.
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Post#37 » by kio80 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:28 am

dAdo dA dEvil wrote:
kio80 wrote:
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So that's why we aren't trading for Fultz. We already have shooting issues in this team. We don't need another guy who can't shoot. And I'm picking Lonzo's passing over Fultz athletic finishing. Hart can shoot and finish better than Fultz plus Hart is not injury prone like Fultz.


It’s a gamble, Fultz has a much higher ceiling than Hart on paper.
Fultz was actually shooting well in college, and he finishes at the rim as well if not better than Hart.
He is also a better defender than Hart.
Hart struggles to stay in front of his man in many occasions, for some reason and sidesteps seems extremely clumsy.



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A gamble mostly for the Lakers so I'd say no. Right now Hart is playing better than Fultz. Hart is an awful perimeter defender and fouls a three point shooter at least once a game, but Hart is solid in defending bigs which is actually interesting given his height which is very undersized. You can see that Hart is at least trying and is a very good rebounder for his size. And the very fact that Hart is playing and Fultz is not and is very injury prone makes me say no to this trade.


I didn’t say it’s not a gamble slightly against the Lakers, but the the topic is about Lakers needing a point guard, hence there are more urgency also for the Lakers.



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Post#38 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:54 pm

kio80 wrote:
dAdo dA dEvil wrote:
kio80 wrote:
It’s a gamble, Fultz has a much higher ceiling than Hart on paper.
Fultz was actually shooting well in college, and he finishes at the rim as well if not better than Hart.
He is also a better defender than Hart.
Hart struggles to stay in front of his man in many occasions, for some reason and sidesteps seems extremely clumsy.



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A gamble mostly for the Lakers so I'd say no. Right now Hart is playing better than Fultz. Hart is an awful perimeter defender and fouls a three point shooter at least once a game, but Hart is solid in defending bigs which is actually interesting given his height which is very undersized. You can see that Hart is at least trying and is a very good rebounder for his size. And the very fact that Hart is playing and Fultz is not and is very injury prone makes me say no to this trade.


I didn’t say it’s not a gamble slightly against the Lakers, but the the topic is about Lakers needing a point guard, hence there are more urgency also for the Lakers.



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Rondo will probably back next game. Lance and BI could handle the back up point duties until LeBron comes back then we can have another play maker. And if we are ever trading for a PG I'll trade for someone who can play as we have injury issues too in this team so clearly Fultz is out of my list because he needs medical attention from time to time. I'd even call Caruso from the G-League than trade Hart for Fultz if I would ever need a PG.
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Post#39 » by Ugly0598 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:59 pm

VCfor3 wrote:I don't know how you guys feel about Shelvin Mack, but he'd be cheap to acquire if the Grizzlies go through with the blow up.


Mack would be a decent get. I think the Lakers would be much better off just starting Ingram and signing Isaiah Canaan to a couple 10 day contracts and bringing him off the bench.

Fultz would provide the Lakers absolutely nothing. Hart and KCP are like Steph and Klay compared to him.

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