Landsberger wrote:stan francisco wrote:Landsberger wrote:
I didn’t pivot away from what you thought was important enough to ALL CAPS.
Mentioning HOF guy with Ingram seems like a serious stretch. I just can’t get with the argument that all young players need is time and to change into a HOF’er. If that we’re the case every 34 year old in the league would be all time greats.
Of the last 20 number 2 picks only 4 all stars.....4. 2 multiple times. That’s it. Ingram is better than many of those guys but when you look at those guys progression it peaked by year 3. I just don’t see him magically getting a Reggie release....
I didn’t ever say anything will happen magically. Will you stop force feeding me arguments I never made and then rebut them, please? Don’t insult people’s intelligence.
It will take a focused, intelligent and unrelenting effort.
But didn’t it for all star pro ball players who ended up as HOFers? Didn’t they all work their asses off their entire career to improve all aspects of their game? I thought that was one of the main characteristic personality traits that separated stars from average dudes. No?
BI is projected, at 21, by everyone in the league equipped with a brain as a defensive beast in the making and he’s proven them right so far. There’s no question about his defensive potential nor his results up to date.
Offensively, he still has ways to go. His decision making improves by the game but it’ll take a while. In the mean time, keep working on improving that slow setup.
I just have a bit of a hard time seeing why you have an interest in — as a Laker fan — arguing why he should give up at 21 and accept that his jumper is a weakness and not shoot for the stars emulating someone like Miller. That, I don’t get.
We need a shooting coach. Prediction: the first thing he’ll tell Ingram to do is to set up shorter and higher, and get used to a higher release. That’s gonna unlock his driving game. Then watch out, HOF is not unreasonable to predict.
If he works on improving his weaknesses.
Edited for spelling, didn’t have readers.
So call out my fandom, try to divert from what you wrote and then put words in my mouth. You win. He’s a HOF’er and I’m an idiot. That enough for you to go away?
I was hoping you would see what I did there. Right back at you. Not nice is it when someone tries to “win” a discussion by playing outside of the truth?
And, then you did it again.
I don’t think you’re an idiot, I think your very intelligent and very negative.
I don’t think Ingram will be as unguardable as KAJ. I never said that. You insinuated I did.
I said if he adopts Reggie Miller’s shot form at his freakish arm length, he might also be practically unguardable.
I also never questioned your fandom, was just trying to point out the glaringly obvious negativity toward one of our own.
And. I have no interest in winning discussions. I discuss to exchange thoughts, to learn, not to deflate other posters by ridicule.