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Game 57: Los Angeles Lakers (28-28) @ Atlanta Hawks (18-38) - 7:30 PM ET

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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Lakers (28-28) @ Atlanta Hawks (18-38) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#181 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:19 am

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TyCobb wrote:I remember nobody wanting to play with Kobe at the end of his career. I feel like we are now in the same situation with LeBron.


All of the credit when the team does well, none of the blame when things turn south. To be fair, the whole team stinks.

Kobe was the opposite. The media would kill Kobe for not winning with Smush and Kwame. They talk about Bynum as being a part of a big 3 during a title run when he averaged 7 and 6 for those playoff runs. They call Odom all star but he never made it. They bring up Shaq.

With LeBron, LeBron has played with far more all stars in his career, far more prime players, teams spent more money, and when he fails the media blames everyone else while syaing check his stats.

The issue though is that Kobe wwasn't passive, as he would cuss his own team out, say yeah I said that ****, **** you, **** you the ref, **** the media, **** boos. LeBron is passive and wants to hug you but will sneak stab you like with this AD stuff. Kobe was open about wanting Kidd to the point he let himself be recorded in a parking lot, he owned it. LeBron doesn't own it


Agree! Kobe doesn't care about the media drama. He is all about business.
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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Lakers (28-28) @ Atlanta Hawks (18-38) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#182 » by Kilroy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:39 am

Kobe and MJ loved winning basketball games... Bird too...
LeBron loves being a great basketball player...
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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Lakers (28-28) @ Atlanta Hawks (18-38) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#183 » by Themaster007_v2 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:19 am

I don't think Luke is a bad coach (definitely needs to stick to a solid lineup) it's just a number of factors ruined the whole spirit of the team. When everyone was healthy, Lavar keeping his mouth shut and no media outlet pushing for the replacement narrative, we were playing well.

Then comes the injury. The losing. Then desperation comes and now it's Klutch/AD talk which killed team chemistry. Lavar opening his mouth causing another distraction. Everything isn't going as planned (trust is broken from management and teammates; which ultimately leads to no one giving full effort or caring) and now you need a scapegoat of "Luke isn't Magic's guy" just like "Lonzo isn't Magic's pick". You can tell chemistry isn't there when Lebron takes out the ball and everyone is running down the court. As the ref is slowly giving the count, the guys realize that Lebron doesn't have anyone to throw to. I've seen this on so many occasion. These guys aren't on the same page.

Aside from the drama and the lack of effort on defense, Luke is putting a nail to his coffin by benching Rondo (your vocal leader.. the good cop to Lebron's bad cop). They said Rondo called a group of them together after the trade deadline to keep morale high/ease the stress. This guy led them to the victory over the Celtics and now you choose to sit him/not play him as much. I'm just confused by this call. I also don't understand why they play KCP when his shot is broken and he doesn't play defense anymore. At the rate that Bullock is shooting, he's bound to keep KCP on the bench. Do I think this team can still make a push? of course. But will it be pretty as we try to make this push? Not at all. Hopefully playing at home will spark some sort of passion/effort into these guys.
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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Lakers (28-28) @ Atlanta Hawks (18-38) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#184 » by kblo247 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:04 am

Themaster007_v2 wrote:I don't think Luke is a bad coach (definitely needs to stick to a solid lineup) it's just a number of factors ruined the whole spirit of the team. When everyone was healthy, Lavar keeping his mouth shut and no media outlet pushing for the replacement narrative, we were playing well.

Then comes the injury. The losing. Then desperation comes and now it's Klutch/AD talk which killed team chemistry. Lavar opening his mouth causing another distraction. Everything isn't going as planned (trust is broken from management and teammates; which ultimately leads to no one giving full effort or caring) and now you need a scapegoat of "Luke isn't Magic's guy" just like "Lonzo isn't Magic's pick". You can tell chemistry isn't there when Lebron takes out the ball and everyone is running down the court. As the ref is slowly giving the count, the guys realize that Lebron doesn't have anyone to throw to. I've seen this on so many occasion. These guys aren't on the same page.

Aside from the drama and the lack of effort on defense, Luke is putting a nail to his coffin by benching Rondo (your vocal leader.. the good cop to Lebron's bad cop). They said Rondo called a group of them together after the trade deadline to keep morale high/ease the stress. This guy led them to the victory over the Celtics and now you choose to sit him/not play him as much. I'm just confused by this call. I also don't understand why they play KCP when his shot is broken and he doesn't play defense anymore. At the rate that Bullock is shooting, he's bound to keep KCP on the bench. Do I think this team can still make a push? of course. But will it be pretty as we try to make this push? Not at all. Hopefully playing at home will spark some sort of passion/effort into these guys.

Honestly Luke **** up with rondo.

Same thing though applies for kcp. KCP went crazy and shot well on Boston. He defended. He hit the shot that cut the lead in half vs Boston. He made the play and pass to lebron to tie it. On the year he’s out played Hart but doesn’t get the mins for it because Luke loves josh. If you’re starting a sg put the blue why does the new guy get it over KCP based off play?
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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Lakers (28-28) @ Atlanta Hawks (18-38) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#185 » by Themaster007_v2 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:28 am

kblo247 wrote:Honestly Luke **** up with rondo.

Same thing though applies for kcp. KCP went crazy and shot well on Boston. He defended. He hit the shot that cut the lead in half vs Boston. He made the play and pass to lebron to tie it. On the year he’s out played Hart but doesn’t get the mins for it because Luke loves josh. If you’re starting a sg put the blue why does the new guy get it over KCP based off play?


I'm not trying to knock on KCP but the role that they are using him is to make the open shots. Him and Hart are the 3 and D guys. I don't know why they use Hart for this (he has abandon his bread and butter i.e. taking it hard to the rim). I know it's early but Bullock was solely brought in to knock down shots. He hasn't shown enough to me that says he's a significant liability on defense. If he shows that his shot is much more reliable (which it seems to be all year) and his defense is on par with KCP, I don't see why they take Bullock out and use KCP instead. I would not have made this remark had the KCP of last year (especially on defense) was to show up.
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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Lakers (28-28) @ Atlanta Hawks (18-38) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#186 » by Landsberger » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:48 pm

Kilroy wrote:Kobe and MJ loved winning basketball games... Bird too...
LeBron loves being a great basketball player...


I do agree with this 100%. I'd put Shaq in the latter category too. He was a guy to put the team in position to win but rarely pushed them over the top.

I don't see a lot of desire to win games in Ingram or Lonzo either... which is disheartening.

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