FRED VANVLEET OR KYLE LOWRY FOR KUZMA

[Rakkasan]

FVV would come here and fill a 22 min a game role off the bench as a back up PG? In that role, on this team as constructed, he's a 12 point guy. Those who think LeBron is handing over the ball handling duties and he starts don't understand or haven't watched the last 10 years of basketball. Part of why everyone wants to trade Kuzma is because of the role he's in now vs last year. It's not regression or lack of progress. He missed camp, finally got a few good games under his belt and had some meaningful runs in games where we needed him. These were followed with him basically being relegated to a corner safety valve. The idea that we bring another guy who's succeeding in a situation that's working for him and he magically makes the opportunity here work like that is like believing in magic.

After watching this season to this point offensively I'm not sure how we'ed have fit Leonard into this team. Bron is what he is... doesn't look like he's ready to play off the ball for more than a possession or 2 and the truth be told that's been working for us to this point. The consternation about Kuzma and Rondo seems like targets for people that seem to need to have targets.

Kyle Kuzma flat out sucks, everytime he even touches the ball he is tripping over his own feet, an accident waiting to happen. The Lakers are exactly the same thing the Cavs were in the East. If Vanvleet can to the Lakers he would definitely start and play more than 22 mins a game.If Lakers think they're going to win a tiltle with Lebron going one on one with PG and Kawhi with no other shot creators or scorers on the floor, they are in for a big surprise. People are complaining about the Clippers load management, they aren't load managing, they are already bored with the regular season and are killing time waiting on the playoffs.While the Lakers are going all out because they have too.

Well.... If you are trying to convince Laker fans that Love = Davis then you probably shouldn't come back and post here.

I'm saying LeBron had a big time 2nd option and ball handler in Kyrie, who by the way was dropping forty in the finals,while also relieving LeBron of ball handling duties. The Lakers so far don't even have a 3rd player that averages double figures. That's why I think they should trade Kuzma for a legitimate 3rd option/creator.

[Landsberger]

Kyle Kuzma flat out sucks, everytime he even touches the ball he is tripping over his own feet, an accident waiting to happen. The Lakers are exactly the same thing the Cavs were in the East. If Vanvleet can to the Lakers he would definitely start and play more than 22 mins a game.If Lakers think they're going to win a tiltle with Lebron going one on one with PG and Kawhi with no other shot creators or scorers on the floor, they are in for a big surprise. People are complaining about the Clippers load management, they aren't load managing, they are already bored with the regular season and are killing time waiting on the playoffs.While the Lakers are going all out because they have too.

Well.... If you are trying to convince Laker fans that Love = Davis then you probably shouldn't come back and post here.

I'm saying LeBron had a big time 2nd option and ball handler in Kyrie, who by the way was dropping forty in the finals,while also relieving LeBron of ball handling duties. The Lakers so far don't even have a 3rd player that averages double figures. That's why I think they should trade Kuzma for a legitimate 3rd option/creator.

When you start with Kuzma flat out sucks you put yourself in a position to not be taken seriously. He's struggling to find his spot after getting 16 shots a game last year but he doesn't "flat out suck". Who do you suggest we trade him for....? He makes $1.9M...

Davis is a much different "big time" second option. One that can do so much more than Kyrie on both ends.

Our team has yet to play together with everyone in shape and or healthy. Kuzma is taking longer to adjust that most of us want but my guess is that he'll be at 13-15 consistently and provide some scoring off the bench.

[Hoopz Afrik]

Did everyone miss what FVV said in an interview recently. They will probably lose him after this season. For nothing.

When did he say that?

[stan francisco]

Did everyone miss what FVV said in an interview recently. They will probably lose him after this season. For nothing.

When did he say that?

He didn’t, but kind of. By not saying he’s definitely staying, by instead saying he’s open to turning the page to new chapters, or something along those lines.

Wiretap, about a month or so back.

[lazybatman]

Fellows, haven't the Lakers got off to the best start in like 35 years. Calm down.

Our only trade target should Andre Igoudala. Do we have a first rounder to trade anymore? Iggy isn't worth the price Grizzlies are asking for, for anyone other than a top contender - Lakers, Clips, Bucks and perhaps a couple of other delusional teams(ahem.. Rockets..). Who has the best assets to make it work. Can we just pay Grizz cash to write him off?

Kuz definitely doesn't suck. He's legit added some stuff to his game, just shy of opportunities to showcase it so far, cos of the way the offence has been running so comfortably through Lebron / AD so far. Lebron has been mentioning his importance to the team's chances when it counts, and it's only a matter of time.

FVV is great, and would be a great addition to any squad in the league, especially ours, given Rondo's health history, but I'd be pretty wary trading Kuz + players and picks for a 6 month contract.

[Sedale Threatt]

He's legit added some stuff to his game...

Like what?

[lazybatman]

He's legit added some stuff to his game...

Like what?

Shot mechanics have improved. Mid/3 pt range fade away jumper.

[stan francisco]

Fellows, haven't the Lakers got off to the best start in like 35 years. Calm down.

Our only trade target should Andre Igoudala. Do we have a first rounder to trade anymore? Iggy isn't worth the price Grizzlies are asking for, for anyone other than a top contender - Lakers, Clips, Bucks and perhaps a couple of other delusional teams(ahem.. Rockets..). Who has the best assets to make it work. Can we just pay Grizz cash to write him off?

Kuz definitely doesn't suck. He's legit added some stuff to his game, just shy of opportunities to showcase it so far, cos of the way the offence has been running so comfortably through Lebron / AD so far. Lebron has been mentioning his importance to the team's chances when it counts, and it's only a matter of time.

FVV is great, and would be a great addition to any squad in the league, especially ours, given Rondo's health history, but I'd be pretty wary trading Kuz + players and picks for a 6 month contract.

Amen.

[Edrees]

FVV would be ridiculous for this team. There's no way toronto does that trade though. And I wouldn't want to give up any more first rounders, we might need them for flexibility down the line after Lebron is gone.

[RoyceDa59]

Raps fan here. I think Masai has every intent to resign FVV and have him as our starting PG of the future. That said I don't see FVV resigning unless he's guaranteed a starter spot.

Either way, FVV or Lowry would be a perfect fit and a lock for the championship on this current Lakers team.

[lakerz12]

Is there a chance the Lakers could get Fred or Kyle for Kuzma and other considerations. The Lakers badly need a starting point guard, and it's not logical that the Raptors will pay both Lowry and Vanvleet, both would be an excellent fit for the Lakers.

Badly need? They are 24-3.

[Landsberger]

Is there a chance the Lakers could get Fred or Kyle for Kuzma and other considerations. The Lakers badly need a starting point guard, and it's not logical that the Raptors will pay both Lowry and Vanvleet, both would be an excellent fit for the Lakers.

Badly need? They are 24-3.

Guess they haven't watched LeBron for the last 15 years either. What would a ball dominant PG do in our offense? Answer: Sit at the 3 point like like Bradley, Rondo or Caruso waiting for the occasional pitch out late in the clock.

The idea that that personnel is the reason we don't have a 3rd 15+ per game scorer is to ignore who we are as a team.

[lakerz12]

Is there a chance the Lakers could get Fred or Kyle for Kuzma and other considerations. The Lakers badly need a starting point guard, and it's not logical that the Raptors will pay both Lowry and Vanvleet, both would be an excellent fit for the Lakers.

Badly need? They are 24-3.

Guess they haven't watched LeBron for the last 15 years either. What would a ball dominant PG do in our offense? Answer: Sit at the 3 point like like Bradley, Rondo or Caruso waiting for the occasional pitch out late in the clock.

The idea that that personnel is the reason we don't have a 3rd 15+ per game scorer is to ignore who we are as a team.

Yeah and OP is supposedly a Celtics fan...

This thread is more likely a troll than an actual question.

Lakers definitely don't need a point guard.

They just need Kuzma to play better, if anything.

And maybe another good defensive wing like Iggy for the Playoffs.

[cheese318]

FVV would come here and fill a 22 min a game role off the bench as a back up PG? In that role, on this team as constructed, he's a 12 point guy. Those who think LeBron is handing over the ball handling duties and he starts don't understand or haven't watched the last 10 years of basketball. Part of why everyone wants to trade Kuzma is because of the role he's in now vs last year. It's not regression or lack of progress. He missed camp, finally got a few good games under his belt and had some meaningful runs in games where we needed him. These were followed with him basically being relegated to a corner safety valve. The idea that we bring another guy who's succeeding in a situation that's working for him and he magically makes the opportunity here work like that is like believing in magic.

After watching this season to this point offensively I'm not sure how we'ed have fit Leonard into this team. Bron is what he is... doesn't look like he's ready to play off the ball for more than a possession or 2 and the truth be told that's been working for us to this point. The consternation about Kuzma and Rondo seems like targets for people that seem to need to have targets.

Kyle Kuzma flat out sucks, everytime he even touches the ball he is tripping over his own feet, an accident waiting to happen. The Lakers are exactly the same thing the Cavs were in the East. If Vanvleet can to the Lakers he would definitely start and play more than 22 mins a game.If Lakers think they're going to win a tiltle with Lebron going one on one with PG and Kawhi with no other shot creators or scorers on the floor, they are in for a big surprise. People are complaining about the Clippers load management, they aren't load managing, they are already bored with the regular season and are killing time waiting on the playoffs.While the Lakers are going all out because they have too.

They have to? That is just stupidity. These two teams are top teams and if you wanna pretend like you know the prediction of what will happen in the postseason that’s worth a lot of money and you should just go bet in Vegas

[TKainZero]

There is no way the Lakers could get either of these guys for kuzma