The Fact about Lakers so far this season

[lalalaker]

We have the best record in west so far but let me speak honestly about what is wrong with the lakers so far.

1. Lakers wins are based on talent of lebron and davis and not team offense wise. When all are wins have both of them as the 2 highest scorer means that if we either one is not playin the game is screwed before it even begin. The two players have so much of the ball that other players hardly get going with touches.

2. Vogel is not coaching the team the right way Offense wise since he is just leaving his players to run the offense and no way no how its run systematically which leads to players being confused as to what to do on offense when either or both players are not on court. We need to run a hard screen pick and roll at the top of key for a drive and dish at least but again this is the same thing I said last season when luke was a coach and sure hate it soo much of mentioning it again. Our offense is too free flowing that no basket is coming easy which is why we arent scoring. the ball handler keeps on calling for screen to be set when this shouldve been done almost instantly and automatically. that screen calling alone easily allows defender to prepare for screen since they know its coming. And for dam sakes dwight stop trying to roll before the screen is set it means sht when you roll too fast and noone is open. Its a bad habit of his from past.

3. Our defense is very inconsistent effort wise which can be seen. beginning of the season lakers were known for playing hard defense and just as lakers realize they got good record they take the foot off the pedal. we had a good fast break numbers bc of the defense which is nowhere to be found now.

4. losing streak is an indicator to how coach can improve from last games but so far i havent seen anything that the players have done better which leads me to believe vogel is still just riding on talent to get the job done. Im a lakers fan but i see clippers, dallas as better team play wise because players know how to play together instead of individual.

[lalalaker]

One thing i forgot to mention about lakers defense. Too much help defense being done leaving others wide open on threes. Where was the lakers defense that wasnt afraid to switch on defense not matter the size. And late help on mismatch leading to others for open shot or lane means no communication is being done at all so much for team chemistry. Why help on defense when say dwight or mcgee or davis is defending someone jus let them be and focus on staying attached to your cover. If size is a mismatch then a big should be running over for help or switch as soon as the ball is passed. these are rocket science man its a simple coaching strategy and hates me to be some noob that has ti point the obvious. I aint a genius but that much i can guess can improve.

[nzahir]

Another fact:

We have ZERO guards who can penetrate and create for themselves

Time for some moves

[lalalaker]

One thing i forgot to mention about lakers defense. Too much help defense being done leaving others wide open on threes. Where was the lakers defense that wasnt afraid to switch on defense not matter the size. And late help on mismatch leading to others for open shot or lane means no communication is being done at all so much for team chemistry. Why help on defense when say dwight or mcgee or davis is defending someone jus let them be and focus on staying attached to your cover. If size is a mismatch then a big should be running over for help or switch as soon as the ball is passed. these are rocket science man its a simple coaching strategy and hates me to be some noob that has ti point the obvious. I aint a genius but that much i can guess can improve.

[Beethoven]

We have horrible transition defense. I see that as one huge hole in our armour.

[tamaraw08]

We have the best record in west so far but let me speak honestly about what is wrong with the lakers so far.

1. Lakers wins are based on talent of lebron and davis and not team offense wise. When all are wins have both of them as the 2 highest scorer means that if we either one is not playin the game is screwed before it even begin. The two players have so much of the ball that other players hardly get going with touches.

2. Vogel is not coaching the team the right way Offense wise since he is just leaving his players to run the offense and no way no how its run systematically which leads to players being confused as to what to do on offense when either or both players are not on court. We need to run a hard screen pick and roll at the top of key for a drive and dish at least but again this is the same thing I said last season when luke was a coach and sure hate it soo much of mentioning it again. Our offense is too free flowing that no basket is coming easy which is why we arent scoring. the ball handler keeps on calling for screen to be set when this shouldve been done almost instantly and automatically. that screen calling alone easily allows defender to prepare for screen since they know its coming. And for dam sakes dwight stop trying to roll before the screen is set it means sht when you roll too fast and noone is open. Its a bad habit of his from past.

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Vogel admitted he have NOT PRACTICED FOR NEARLY A MONTH.
https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/12/21/21033040/lakers-news-frank-vogel-practice-veterans-bucks-postgame-quotes-lebron-james

On Saturday, the Los Angeles Lakers will practice for the first time since Nov. 29 — almost an entire month ago.

A big reason for that is the fact that they’ve been on the road for eight of their last nine games, but they could have snuck a practice in during that if they wanted to. So why didn’t they?

After the Lakers’ 111-104 loss to the Milwaukee Bucks on Thursday, head coach Frank Vogel told reporters that this is the least a team of his has ever practiced, but with the way they’ve looked to start the season, he thinks it’s justifiable (via Spectrum SportsNet):

It makes sense to rest and save the energy of your 2 superstars but I don't UNDERSTAND why you can't draw up offensive sets for the bench to use. Cook, Dudley, Daniels are very good shooters, Rondo is a great passer/facilitator, JMG is great for lobs from Rondo, etc etc, all these guys are barely playing minutes, why can't they practice hard to get some scoring relief when James and AD sits.
Most here think oh, they don't have enough shot creators etc, who is the shot creator for Dallas, Suns, Wizards, Celtics, Miami, etc etc when their starters sit?
Most teams don't have shot creators from the bench and yet they find ways to score. Doncic BTW only plays 32 mins/game unlike the 35 yr old Lebron and he hasn't been playing and yet, they are not crumbling.

[Showtime:Part2]

There are many issues but offense can be boiled down to 1: rondo. Last 5 games 3/17 from 3pt. Wins where we barely beat heat and hawks. Teams are leaving him open betting he regresses to his long term mean. Now I’m ok w rondo coming off the bench, but he absolutely cannot be on the floor the same time as someone like McGee or bron. It kills the spacing

[Landsberger]

Fact is that we weren't going to go 79-3. We've not played more than 3 games in a row with the entire roster healthy.

It appears we're very close to proof of another fact (paper is being peer reviewed now) that Laker fans cannot look prosperity in the face and not flinch back into chicken littles. We seem to look at the Clippers record and say.... "well they are load managing and will be there for playoffs" but if we lose a game here or there it's half the freaking roster needs to be turned over for additional superstars or every 40% 3 point shooter in the league.... or half the roster "freaking sucks" and needs to be executed.

It's appropriate that the coach is in the cross hairs now... Management had a good 6 month run.... they're next if we drop below a .750 winning %

[lalalaker]

There was a tweet about how lakers are dead last in drive to basket per game which shows how the offense is stagnant with little to no easy basket every possession. too much shooters and not enough shot creators or players not afraid to attack the rim or no flowing offense that has teammate setting picks to get the player open creating opportunities.
why the hell is coaching staff not trying to fix the problem anyway how even if lakers are loaded in away games and not enough home games to settle down. I worry lakers wont win at all playing the way they are with just 2 stars carrying the load.

[tamaraw08]

There are many issues but offense can be boiled down to 1: rondo. Last 5 games 3/17 from 3pt. Wins where we barely beat heat and hawks. Teams are leaving him open betting he regresses to his long term mean. Now I’m ok w rondo coming off the bench, but he absolutely cannot be on the floor the same time as someone like McGee or bron. It kills the spacing

I am not going to argue that he might be a part of the problem but he's playing 22 mins/game, yes, it's been up to about 25 mins but it's not like the Lakers are so much better the 23 mins he's not there.

[tamaraw08]

There was a tweet about how lakers are dead last in drive to basket per game which shows how the offense is stagnant with little to no easy basket every possession. too much shooters and not enough shot creators or players not afraid to attack the rim or no flowing offense that has teammate setting picks to get the player open creating opportunities.
why the hell is coaching staff not trying to fix the problem anyway how even if lakers are loaded in away games and not enough home games to settle down. I worry lakers wont win at all playing the way they are with just 2 stars carrying the load.

I agree with most of your takes esp the underlined. I watched the Denver game again but most of their points come via broken plays, put backs and iso's for AD on the left side. There were a couple of curl plays for Bradley's 14 ft jumpers, Green cutting from the baseline 3, and screen roll.
Kuzma had to do iso's too from the perimeter.
I observe most teams after timeouts how they execute a nice play that generate an easy basket, Vogel after a timeout simply ask AD to post up on the left side. . I am not saying it's a bad strategy but he could have draw an easier set where Denver wouldn't know what they're running, THEN USE that AD post up in other times. It's the lack of creativity that I am concern about. I know fans here are rolling their eyes thinking why are we complaining, we have the best record, but my question is, at the expense of what? over UTILIZING THE GREATNESS of the 2 superstars The 35 yr old Lebron is playing MORE minutes than they younger 20 year old Luka Doncic AND the 25 yr old Giannis who only plays 31 minutes and both do NOT have AD type of player playing in the same team and most of the Lakers are playing under 25 mins/game and they DON'T EVEN PRACTICE TO HAVE BETTER OFFENSIVE SYSTEM, Just play Lebron and AD heavy minutes and ride on their greatness, that is the Vogel recipe?

[lalalaker]

thats the fact that lakers reliance on both james and AD is not the solution going forward. Why not let caruso play freely like end of last season i feel lot of players are assertive of taking shots and therefore lack confidences. our 3pt shots are bad bc our offense doesnt create easier situation for the shooters. it could be said we are turnover prone bc the offense takes so much time looking to pass that it ends up being a bad possession

[Showtime:Part2]

There are many issues but offense can be boiled down to 1: rondo. Last 5 games 3/17 from 3pt. Wins where we barely beat heat and hawks. Teams are leaving him open betting he regresses to his long term mean. Now I’m ok w rondo coming off the bench, but he absolutely cannot be on the floor the same time as someone like McGee or bron. It kills the spacing

I am not going to argue that he might be a part of the problem but he's playing 22 mins/game, yes, it's been up to about 25 mins but it's not like the Lakers are so much better the 23 mins he's not there.

He has played 25 26 26 18 and 28 mins last 5 games. That’s over half the game w a guard that can’t shoot and is mediocre at everything else. Caruso should be playing at least half of those minutes. Caruso is a much better shooter, finisher, and defender and we need to play him more now so he has confidence in the playoffs against good teams

[lalalaker]

if vogel would install the pick and roll offense more this team would be 1000 times better why let lbj and davis shoulder the load. why not run more offense that would allow players easier basket at the rim and get more involved. why does kuzma who has great touch around the basket have to settle being a catch and shoot guy jus bc lbj runs down the clock jus dribbling the ball and everyone else just standing still.

[lazybatman]

I enjoyed reading this post. Bang on about the lack of set plays, drive penetration and distribing the load.

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