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Jazz @ Lakers, Game #58 4/19, 7:00 PM

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Re: Jazz @ Lakers, Game #58 4/19, 7:00 PM 

Post#21 » by Hans1984 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:12 pm

Having Conley and especially Gobert back changed everything for them. We can't beat them if they are almost at full strenght unless we have James and Davis back.
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Re: Jazz @ Lakers, Game #58 4/19, 7:00 PM 

Post#22 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:35 pm

Kilroy wrote:LeBron and Clutch are in complete control of this FO... And they know THT better than anyone... So whatever happens, it'll be what LeBron wants. So, I'm not worried about LeBron being happy... But I agree, THT is about to get a bigger payday than a lot of pundits expect...
I hope we keep him, and have him be our James Worthy going forward... I'd be comfortable going deep into the cap for him, and Caruso to a lesser extent.

Time for Kuzma to finally find a new home tho...

THT situation falls under the Gilbert Arenas provision.

The Gilbert Arenas Provision limits the amount non-incumbent teams can provide for in an offer sheet to an Arenas RFA.[2] The first year of such offer sheet cannot exceed the amount of the Midlevel Exception for the upcoming season. The salary in the second year of the offer sheet can increase or decrease by 4.5%. The salary in the third year can be any amount up to the amount a max contract would have provided in year 3 had the player not been subject to this provision and signed a normal max contract at the outset. The salary in the fourth year can increase or decrease by 4.1% of the salary in the third year. Table 1 below shows the maximum amount a Arenas RFA can receive in 2016 in accordance with these rules.[3]

Table 1. Arenas RFA – Max Offer Sheet

Year Salary Raises Over Prior Year
2016-17 $5,628,000[4] —
2017-18 $5,881,260 4.5%
2018-19 $23,975,640[5] 407.5%
2019-20 $24,958,641 4.1%
Total $60,443,541
Interestingly, although the Gilbert Arenas Provision exists to protect teams that do not have enough cap space to sign their Arenas RFA, the rule is applied to all Arenas RFAs even if their team has max level cap space or their market value falls within the available free agent exceptions. A team with an Arenas RFA could have $40,000,000 in cap space but a non-incumbent team could still only offer such player the Midlevel Exception in the first year of the offer sheet.

The player’s cap hit throughout the life of his contract depends on whether his incumbent team matches the offer sheet. If the incumbent team does match the offer sheet, he will remain with his team and his cap hit will be identical to the offer sheet values. If, on the other hand, the incumbent team does not match the offer sheet, the non-incumbent team will acquire the player and his cap hit will be the average of salaries provided for in the offer sheet. Table 2 below shows the cap hit of a Arenas RFA if his incumbent team does not matched the hypothetical max offer sheet shown in Table 1.

https://moorebasketball.com/2016/06/21/how-it-works-the-gilbert-arenas-provision/
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Re: Jazz @ Lakers, Game #58 4/19, 7:00 PM 

Post#23 » by ROballer » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:49 am

The Arenas provision lends us a hand in the short term.

The first two years would be a 5-6 mil cap hit while the latter two will be backloaded like crazy.
Every other teams that signs him will have a cap hit that's pretty much even for the 4 years of the contract.
I fully expect of him to get the full 60 mil offer from somewhere. That equals to 15 mil per for every team.

Even with the reduced cap hit for the first two years, I don't see the FO paying both Schroder and THT. And even if we were to do that, we'll be shopping Kuzma and KCP like crazy afterwards, no way you can keep all of the team two years down the line, when THT will be making 23-24 mil a year.
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Re: Jazz @ Lakers, Game #58 4/19, 7:00 PM 

Post#24 » by iamworthy » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:29 pm

ROballer wrote:The Arenas provision lends us a hand in the short term.

The first two years would be a 5-6 mil cap hit while the latter two will be backloaded like crazy.
Every other teams that signs him will have a cap hit that's pretty much even for the 4 years of the contract.
I fully expect of him to get the full 60 mil offer from somewhere. That equals to 15 mil per for every team.

Even with the reduced cap hit for the first two years, I don't see the FO paying both Schroder and THT. And even if we were to do that, we'll be shopping Kuzma and KCP like crazy afterwards, no way you can keep all of the team two years down the line, when THT will be making 23-24 mil a year.


I'd easily say by to kuzma and Dennis.
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