Game 22 : Detroit Pistons (4-15) @ Los Angeles Lakers (10-11) - 9:30 PM

[tamaraw08]

Dec 15 I believe, is when many of these guys become trade eligible. Just gotta keep muddling through till then. I’ll keep beating this horse, but the big 3 will have to carry this epic fail of a supporting cast till then. Then the burden shifts to Pelinka to fix this roster.

Some fans wanted Jerami Grant, even the freaking Trevor Lane of Lakers nation is salivating on Christian Wood but my goodness why do we fans think that we have enough assets that would make other GM's give up their prized players for guys like the injured Nunn, THT and other minimums who are under performing?
Do we think Pelinka has this magic Jedi Mind trick and hypnotize his opposing GM's are we simply dreaming?
Nets trades for Ibaka, then get frustrated with Kyrie so they trade him for Westbrook. Nets now recreates the OKC 2.0, the grand reunion of KD, Ibaka, Russ and Harden.
Lebron welcomes his long lost Prodigal brother Kyrie with a big hug, they then dismantle the Suns and upset the Warriors in the WCF then face the OKC 2.0 for a showdown. Adam Silver wets his pants and it's not urine because of the epic Duel that beats the all time National Sports TV ratings... well the post Michael Jordan Era that is.

[tamaraw08]

I have not seen Westbrook make a 3pt shot all season so far... I've seen him take a lot of them... I'm sure he's made a few, but I haven't seen it...

He made one tonight. For the season, he is 30-95 for .316. Not exactly sharpshooter territory.

So he made 30 3pt shots in 22 games, is my math so awful that it's like averaging at least 1 per game?
The last 20 games since Oct 24, he made at least 1 3pt shot for 18 of 20 games. Is it possible we are just simply hating on the guy?
He is not Steph but he's only taking 4 3's which is like 1 per quarter. His turnovers have been relatively down except for the Knicks game.

[Pythagoras]

Dec 15 I believe, is when many of these guys become trade eligible. Just gotta keep muddling through till then. I’ll keep beating this horse, but the big 3 will have to carry this epic fail of a supporting cast till then. Then the burden shifts to Pelinka to fix this roster.

Some fans wanted Jerami Grant, even the freaking Trevor Lane of Lakers nation is salivating on Christian Wood but my goodness why do we fans think that we have enough assets that would make other GM's give up their prized players for guys like the injured Nunn, THT and other minimums who are under performing?
Do we think Pelinka has this magic Jedi Mind trick and hypnotize his opposing GM's are we simply dreaming?
Nets trades for Ibaka, then get frustrated with Kyrie so they trade him for Westbrook. Nets now recreates the OKC 2.0, the grand reunion of KD, Ibaka, Russ and Harden.
Lebron welcomes his long lost Prodigal brother Kyrie with a big hug, they then dismantle the Suns and upset the Warriors in the WCF then face the OKC 2.0 for a showdown. Adam Silver wets his pants and it's not urine because of the epic Duel that beats the all time National Sports TV ratings... well the post Michael Jordan Era that is.

Well, I don’t think the Lakers need a splashy acquisition like Wood or Grant. Grabbing an undervalued stretch 5 like Olynyk or Theis probably would be easy to do and I think either player would make a significant impact.

With that said, I think a package of Nunn, THT, salary filler and a 2027 first, is comparable of what Denver gave for Aaron Gordon, a similar player of impact and position to Wood or Grant.

[slifersd]

I might be in the minority here, but I for one do not think a trade is going to address any of our issues. The reality is, this team does not give effort. You can bring in Christian Wood or Jerami Grant or whoever but he is not going to change the attitude of every other player on this team. He is also not going to make Anthony Davis become a better shooter or have him stop taking jumpers. He sure as hell can't make Lebron move faster or at least try on the defensive end. At this point, this team, and specifically its star players, need to decide where they really want to go with the season. If they still just want to play however they feel like playing, we would be lucky to squeeze into the playoffs as a seventh seed. If they decide to honker down and actually try to play winning basketball, then we have a lot of the pieces in place to make a serious run.

[tamaraw08]

I might be in the minority here, but I for one do not think a trade is going to address any of our issues. The reality is, this team does not give effort. You can bring in Christian Wood or Jerami Grant or whoever but he is not going to change the attitude of every other player on this team. He is also not going to make Anthony Davis become a better shooter or have him stop taking jumpers. He sure as hell can't make Lebron move faster or at least try on the defensive end. At this point, this team, and specifically its star players, need to decide where they really want to go with the season. If they still just want to play however they feel like playing, we would be lucky to squeeze into the playoffs as a seventh seed. If they decide to honker down and actually try to play winning basketball, then we have a lot of the pieces in place to make a serious run.

I agree to a certain point. I think the last few games, this team is making an effort to play better.
I call it a collective malady, where the whole team is just in sync. Losing Kuz and KCP is bad but choosing to let Caruso go, made it much worse. Bazemore is turning out to be a huge mistake bec their defense is just so bad.
Their collective age is showing signs that they are 1 or half a step too late on their rotations which is huge in terms of covering shooters, sliding fast enough to draw charges etc.

[Kilroy]

I might be in the minority here, but I for one do not think a trade is going to address any of our issues. The reality is, this team does not give effort. You can bring in Christian Wood or Jerami Grant or whoever but he is not going to change the attitude of every other player on this team. He is also not going to make Anthony Davis become a better shooter or have him stop taking jumpers. He sure as hell can't make Lebron move faster or at least try on the defensive end. At this point, this team, and specifically its star players, need to decide where they really want to go with the season. If they still just want to play however they feel like playing, we would be lucky to squeeze into the playoffs as a seventh seed. If they decide to honker down and actually try to play winning basketball, then we have a lot of the pieces in place to make a serious run.

Lebron knows he can play half speed all season, and then turn it up in the playoffs and be better than all but maybe 5 players in the post season... He assumes all players can be like him...
AD isn't that guy... AD needs to bring consistent effort all season and then have short bursts of elitism in the post season... He can't shift that much of a gear in the post season. If he takes it easy all season, he's going to be ineffective and IMO, he raises the likelihood of injury...
Westbrook, Melo, etc... those guys aren't the leaders of the team so they don't matter in this discussion...

The way this team has to work is LeBron has to be comfortable with the team revolving around AD all season... That means no stupid MVP battles between them... And then he can come up big in the post season... But AD needs to lead this team on both ends of the floor during the regular season. He has to have that intensity on D and dominate in the paint... Not float around like a butterfly and shoot pretty 3s...
That's how AD and LeBron can best compliment each other at this point.

The problem is, LeBron seems to get bent out of shape if the spotlight is on AD too much... Every time AD starts getting MVP hype, LeBron stops passing to him and starts trying to take over... Which takes AD completely out of the team...
AD isn't the kind of player that can take a bad night or 2 in stride, and dominate the next night, he needs consistency... He's like David Robinson, or Hakeem, more than Shaq...

AD and LeBron like each other so they may not even realize it yet, but there's a rift growing between them... You can tell by watching the rest of the team... They're on the same page less and less...

That's why adding Westbrook was such a bad move... Adding Melo could have worked without Westbrook, but not both... And it's also why watching them is so painful most nights...

[TylersLakers]

If we can get Grant for THT and Nunn, you do it

[Pythagoras]

If we can get Grant for THT and Nunn, you do it

Without hesitation

[Ballerhogger]

If we can get Grant for THT and Nunn, you do it

Without hesitation

For real but don’t see it happening lol

[Pythagoras]

If we can get Grant for THT and Nunn, you do it

Without hesitation

For real but don’t see it happening lol

Most likely not, but again, I also wouldn’t have thought we would’ve traded KCP, Kuzma, Harrell, and a 1st for Westbrook, lol

[tamaraw08]

If we can get Grant for THT and Nunn, you do it

Most likely not, but again, I also wouldn’t have thought we would’ve traded KCP, Kuzma, Harrell, and a 1st for Westbrook, lol

lol directed at the Lakers?
A bad team that is lacking offensive players, is really giving up Grant and his 19 pts/5 rebs for a injured guy and a THT who is averaging 6 pts the past 6 games. yeah LOL.

[Pythagoras]

lol directed at the Lakers?
A bad team that is lacking offensive players, is really giving up Grant and his 19 pts/5 rebs for a injured guy and a THT who is averaging 6 pts the past 6 games. yeah LOL.

Stop killing my dream! Lol!