Enough is Enough vogel has got to go.

[Revived]

Vogel isn't the Major main problem. But someone has to be sacrificed. And Pelinka and Lebron aint goin nowhere.

Lebron has gotta go, for me. We need not worry about the optics. He didn't care about optics when he left Cleveland the first time, not even netting them a player or a pick. So I don't think teams owe him anything if they decide to move on from him too.

He brought the Lakers it’s first title in nearly a decade. So yeah I don’t think it’s the same as when LeBron left Cleveland the first time.

[Saciid11]

Why fire Vogel ? Vogel didn't put this roster together. Fire the GM Pelinka who put this roster together ...who traded for Westbrook and let Caruso walk while signing THT. Pelika didn't want to give up THT for Lowry, or Demar ..didn't even try to sign Caruso and worse it would have taken way less to get Buddy Hield then Westbrook who is bad fit . A combination of Lowry , Hield and resigned Caruso would have made Laker defense and offense much better.

[stan francisco]

#SaveFrank

I love that he finally stopped giving Russ the blind eye on defense, and pulled him at the end of the game.

It’s sad that it took his whole career before someone really told him. Good job, Frank!

[thenbaman]

Why fire Vogel ? Vogel didn't put this roster together. Fire the GM Pelinka who put this roster together ...who traded for Westbrook and let Caruso walk while signing THT. Pelika didn't want to give up THT for Lowry, or Demar ..didn't even try to sign Caruso and worse it would have taken way less to get Buddy Hield then Westbrook who is bad fit . A combination of Lowry , Hield and resigned Caruso would have made Laker defense and offense much better.

That would be bron you would have to fire not pelika.

[danfantastk32]

Why fire Vogel ? Vogel didn't put this roster together. Fire the GM Pelinka who put this roster together ...who traded for Westbrook and let Caruso walk while signing THT. Pelika didn't want to give up THT for Lowry, or Demar ..didn't even try to sign Caruso and worse it would have taken way less to get Buddy Hield then Westbrook who is bad fit . A combination of Lowry , Hield and resigned Caruso would have made Laker defense and offense much better.

That would be bron you would have to fire not pelika.

You really think Pelinka walked into his office, noticed WB walking around, asked his secretary what Russ is doing here? And then found out KCP, Kuz, and a first round pick were gone? Gosh....that must have been quite a shocking morning for poor Pelinka.

You may feel stuck in a corner with both AD and Lebron pushing for this trade to happen. But that's when you gotta stick to your guns, and tell them you'll "look into it". Truth is......Jeanie, Rob, Lebron, AD, Russ, John Ireland, and about 500 other people thought this was a great idea. Lebron and AD might have rallied for this to happen....but Rob worked out the details, and signed the papers.

But don't worry, Vogel will be fired (prob before the end of the month), and then "new blood" will inspire this wreck of a roster to play defense. They aren't old, and poorly constructed....just mislead. Rambis has been sticking his nose into meetings lately. Maybe we can kick those tires again. After all....he was a GREAT coach. I'd bet he would really squeeze the best out of this squad.

[wco81]

It's interesting, Kidd is having the Mavs play good defense now and despite Luka's slow start, the team is ascending.

So if the Lakers fired Vogel, they would have been better off to have Kidd on the staff and just put him in as the interim. DO they have any other potentially good coaches on the staff?

[Ballerhogger]

It's interesting, Kidd is having the Mavs play good defense now and despite Luka's slow start, the team is ascending.

So if the Lakers fired Vogel, they would have been better off to have Kidd on the staff and just put him in as the interim. DO they have any other potentially good coaches on the staff?

fizzdale

[LAKESHOW]

See, if this was Magic. Only Magic has the guts to say NO. He ain't afraid to tell Bron or any of those Stars NO, we ain't doin everything you want. Pelinka on the other hand...

[Beethoven]

Small sample size w fizdale just to let everyone know. Frank should be out.

[Kilroy]

If the story that Vogel "has been given the green light to bench Westbrook." is true, and is just happening now, it's all you need to know about whether or not Vogel needs to go...
He's clearly not the problem in this scenario...

[danfantastk32]

If the story that Vogel "has been given the green light to bench Westbrook." is true, and is just happening now, it's all you need to know about whether or not Vogel needs to go...
He's clearly not the problem in this scenario...

interesting that this happened (or got "leaked") right as we're approaching the trade window. Russ' feelings are secondary at this point to the FO. You can look at it in several ways, in the great game of chess. But certainly none of the scenarios have Russ feeling warm and fuzzy.