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Post#101 » by Penberthy » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:46 pm

MixedUp wrote:So after the Kyrie trade request I put up a tweet saying I would rather have Kyrie on the Lakers than LBJ and I got completely roasted by alot of fans. I dont understand though? I thought my reasons for this are pretty clear and should be shared by more.

Why do we want LeBron?

So we built a good couple of years to get this team where they are now (the collection of talent) and while I'm allready sad about the departure of D'Lo I do understand.
So lets say for argument sake we do get LeBron next season.

- Does this mean Lonzo goes from the 1st ballhandler to 2nd? Does this stunt his growth? Or is LBJ suddenly going to play off-ball (see Miami).
- LeBron needs shooters around him. So where do Randle, Clarkson, Zubac (creator himself) among others go? I think we need to lose half our team to consolidate to LeBrons playing style.
- What happens if LBJ strongarms us and controls the Lakers like he did in Cle, Mia, Cle?
- What if he leaves after 1/2 years?
- What if he starts declining (see Nash).


I for one, much rather make a package for Kyrie Irving (who is more of a 2 than a 1 in my eyes). Loves Kobe, has the same killer instrinct and Luke can learn him defense just like he did with Nick.
What are your thoughts?


-Lebron has always been pass first. If he decides to come here at age 33, it will be BECAUSE of our youth, not despite it. He is intelligent and knows that if he wants to play into his late 30s, he will need to defer and rely on others, or else end up going out in a wheelchair like kobe did. In short yes, he could very well play off ball and compliment Ball very nicely.
-Are you seriously saying you would rather have RANDLE AND CLARKSON than LEBRON JAMES? wow, just wow. You're right, if he comes, they are gone, not only because they can't shoot, but because they will be overpaid.
-Possible, but not likely. No one's ego is bigger than Magic's, not even lebron's.
-If he leaves after 1/2 years, we still have Ball, Ingram, Nance, Zu, Hart, Kuzma to build around
-He will decline. But he will still be better than 90% of NBA players. He does not have anything close to nash's injury history, and has been one of the most durable nba players of his era and has averaged 76 of 82 regular season games played per year over his entire career.

If lebron decides to take a durant-type deal we could realistically have

Ball Vet 3&D
George Hart
Ingram Kuzma
Lebron Nance
Boogie Zu Bryant

Boogie and George will be 28 going into 2018. That is enough youth and firepower to contend with the Ws every year until he rides off into the sunset.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#102 » by NBAWestFan » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:07 pm

Lebron is about his Legacy and he does not care who he runs out of town to get what he wants or
who he steps on.

No Lebron

He will be asking for players to be traded. Coaches to be moved and ultimately will say
ownership was no good when he leaves to chase titles.

I can see him gutting our team to bring in some temporary stars and then
once they decide to leave the team will be worse than it was before he got here and it will be like
Cleveland.


The Lakers need to take the steps to get into the running.

Just by adding Lebron and PG and another guy makes them in the top 5 but at the expense of what?

Lavar Ball will be asking for Lonzo to be traded, Ingram will want to be traded

Never like Lebron or his deameanor.

In fact I root for the teams against Lebron.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#103 » by Slink » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:54 pm

Does Lebron coming here mean he really wants to compete for a ring? He might just want to manage his own personal businesses in L.A. and just cruise through the rest of his career.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#104 » by RingsDontLie » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:56 pm

He gonna be old...it's a relevant question just based on the fact that...he getting old.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#105 » by Slink » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:05 pm

RingsDontLie wrote:He gonna be old...it's a relevant question just based on the fact that...he getting old.


Lakers F.O. won't care. Lebron coming here means ticket sales, more nationally televised Laker games, jersey sales. You get the idea.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#106 » by TyCobb » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:17 am

It would be a bad calculation if he expects to coast the rest of his career if he signs with the Lakers. Lakers fans would be on him if he can't sniff a ring here.
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Post#107 » by leeprettyp » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:23 am

TyCobb wrote:It would be a bad calculation if he expects to coast the rest of his career if he signs with the Lakers. Lakers fans would be on him if he can't sniff a ring here.



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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#108 » by LakersLegacy » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:04 pm

To contend for 2 seasons and teach Ball and Ingram how to contend in the future?
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#109 » by Slava » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:08 pm

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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#110 » by Slink » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:03 pm

Slava wrote:
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Damn. I can imagine Lebron doing the same to Luke
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Post#111 » by leeprettyp » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:16 pm

Slava wrote:
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#112 » by DEEP3CL » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:50 pm

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ScHoolBoy B wrote:Still say **** LeBron and we need to focus on Westbrook and PG.
SchoolBoy B, you know you my dawg but I want no part of Westbrook. He's the antithesis of what were trying to do in terms of ball movement and a balance attack on offense.


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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#113 » by AdotSmoove » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:15 am

Theoretically, I can understand wanting Kyrie instead of Lebron giving all of the factors previously mentioned. However, I do not understand wanting PG13 over LBJ. Two reasons seem to be most cited: 1 age and 2 ego. As to 1, LBJ is 32 and easily still the best in the league. George is 28 and isn't improving his game anymore. In 4 years, LBJ will likely tail off but this isn't a given (he's never had a serious injury). In 4 years, PG may be as good as he is now, but PG now is still not better than a diminished LBJ IMO. As to 2, after the playoff game where CJ Miles took the last shot PG during post game presser blasts CJ saying that I (PG) am the one to take the last shot. I agree with PG but it's game 1 of the opening playoff round. It would have better served the team to tell CJ that privately but PG didn't care because he was "done" with Indy. It takes quite the ego to handle the situation like that. With Lebron at least the ego is justified, I don't understand PGs ego.


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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#114 » by detlef_schrempf » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:44 am

RingsDontLie wrote:He gonna be old...it's a relevant question just based on the fact that...he getting old.


He will still be the best player in the league for at least three more years. Probably more.

He is an athletic freak.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#115 » by detlef_schrempf » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:50 am

RingsDontLie wrote:He gonna be old...it's a relevant question just based on the fact that...he getting old.


He will still be the best player in the league for at least three more years. Probably more.

He is an athletic freak.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#116 » by Pythagoras » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:57 am

AdotSmoove wrote:Theoretically, I can understand wanting Kyrie instead of Lebron giving all of the factors previously mentioned. However, I do not understand wanting PG13 over LBJ. Two reasons seem to be most cited: 1 age and 2 ego. As to 1, LBJ is 32 and easily still the best in the league. George is 28 and isn't improving his game anymore. In 4 years, LBJ will likely tail off but this isn't a given (he's never had a serious injury). In 4 years, PG may be as good as he is now, but PG now is still not better than a diminished LBJ IMO. As to 2, after the playoff game where CJ Miles took the last shot PG during post game presser blasts CJ saying that I (PG) am the one to take the last shot. I agree with PG but it's game 1 of the opening playoff round. It would have better served the team to tell CJ that privately but PG didn't care because he was "done" with Indy. It takes quite the ego to handle the situation like that. With Lebron at least the ego is justified, I don't understand PGs ego.


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Lebron will have played about 54,000 minutes between the regular season and playoffs by the next time he becomes a FA, so it's very fair to question just how much he will have left. Lebron is also a much, much, more ball dominant player than PG, so its also very fair to question how well his game will age in his late 30s. Paul George's game seems much better suited to fit with a young, talented up-and-coming point guard like Ball.

As far as the ego thing, yeah, Lebron's is more justified, but Lebron doesn't seem to realize he shouldn't be as involved in personnel decisions as he is. Its ok for him to give input, just not dictate. I don't want Lebron coming here strong-arming the FO into FA moves that cripple the team after he retires.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#117 » by Pythagoras » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:00 am

detlef_schrempf wrote:
RingsDontLie wrote:He gonna be old...it's a relevant question just based on the fact that...he getting old.


He will still be the best player in the league for at least three more years. Probably more.

He is an athletic freak.


I don't know that I buy him being the best player now, but he's definitely not gonna be the best player in the league for 3 more years, and certainly not more. That's absurd.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#118 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:12 pm

Pythagoras wrote:
detlef_schrempf wrote:
RingsDontLie wrote:He gonna be old...it's a relevant question just based on the fact that...he getting old.


He will still be the best player in the league for at least three more years. Probably more.

He is an athletic freak.


I don't know that I buy him being the best player now, but he's definitely not gonna be the best player in the league for 3 more years, and certainly not more. That's absurd.


I too question best player in 3 years....but I have him on top as of now. But even if he's not the best player.....he's gonna be top-10, wouldnt you agree (barring major injury...but that goes for anyone)? When you combine his willingness to pass, his overall utility...and his defense, I don't know why the Lakers wouldn't take him on a 3-4 year deal. Yeah....that 4th year might kinda bite you, but whatever. I also see him still being a damn good player at 37.
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#119 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:15 pm

Hey I will would be happy fan to see LBJ play live as Laker. I would imagine Staples Center and downtown LA would like to $$$$$$
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Re: Why are we targeting lebron? 

Post#120 » by Pythagoras » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:30 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:
detlef_schrempf wrote:
He will still be the best player in the league for at least three more years. Probably more.

He is an athletic freak.


I don't know that I buy him being the best player now, but he's definitely not gonna be the best player in the league for 3 more years, and certainly not more. That's absurd.


I too question best player in 3 years....but I have him on top as of now. But even if he's not the best player.....he's gonna be top-10, wouldnt you agree (barring major injury...but that goes for anyone)? When you combine his willingness to pass, his overall utility...and his defense, I don't know why the Lakers wouldn't take him on a 3-4 year deal. Yeah....that 4th year might kinda bite you, but whatever. I also see him still being a damn good player at 37.


Definitely agree top 10. I have 4 major questions regarding LBJ coming:

How much is he gonna have left?
How would his game adjust to having the ball in his hands less?
How much is his desire to come here based on wanting to add himself to the Lakers Mount Rushmore and win a title, vs setting himself up for life after basketball?
How would he, Ingram, and PG fit? (Who's gonna be the 2, who's gonna be the 3, and who's gonna be the 4?)

With all that said, if he really wants to come, he's worth the risk. I actually DO think he'll be elite for the next two years definitely, and likely three.
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