Free Agent Possibilities

Post #101 » by **Slava** » Tue May 7, 2019 7:55 am

I'm not saying the current circus show of a a management is in any way attractive to prospective top free agents but woj is simply pulling stuff out of his ass to fill some empty news cycles right now.

There's no way anyone like Leonard or Klay is talking about free agency in the heat of the playoffs.

meetbishop · Post #102 » by **meetbishop** » Tue May 7, 2019 2:35 pm

what would jack bauer do? wrote:Well, it looks like Jeannie's top target is Kawhi. Basically told Rob, get Kawhi or you're out.

If I'm Rob I gotta play this smart. My hand is played for me. I don't add distractions with trades. I decide who am I keeping for the long term right now. I don't cater to Lebron cause he's under contract already and has no power play in his pocket at this point.

I think the right play is to sit down Kawhi with LA's two quiet and reserved stars in Ingram and Lonzo (along with Luke and Jeannie). Lebron could later have dinner with him. But at this point I'm committing to keeping Ingram and Lonzo as our future along with Kawhi. That's the message I'm sending him. If we strike out please don't do it with that Lakers sensationalism bull s***.

Kuzma has no real purpose on our roster with Lebron here and the streaky nature of his 3pt shot. I would dangle him and the 11th pick for a stretch 5. Hell, if the Pacers choke in the playoffs I'd send two picks and Kuzma for Myles Turner.

This is the first time I am hearing someone saying this. I believe something is in the works for Kawhi. I believe Rob is making Jeanie believe he can deliver Kawhi.

Penberthy · Post #103 » by **Penberthy** » Tue May 7, 2019 2:45 pm

Lebron for Jokic and Barton

Ball(28) Beverly(20) Caruso
Barton(24) Hart(24) Bonga
KD(16) Ingram (32)
Kuzma(32) KD(16) Bol
Jokic(32) Wagner(16) Bol

Post #104 » by **Slava** » Tue May 7, 2019 4:33 pm

Denver isn't trading jokic for a 34 year old lebron.

Pythagoras · Post #105 » by **Pythagoras** » Tue May 7, 2019 5:17 pm

Slava wrote:I'm not saying the current circus show of a a management is in any way attractive to prospective top free agents but woj is simply pulling stuff out of his ass to fill some empty news cycles right now.

There's no way anyone like Leonard or Klay is talking about free agency in the heat of the playoffs.

Yeah, I agree. Woj is great when it comes to dropping breaking news but he also has shown he is not above to pushing narratives when it fits his agenda. He clearly has a close contact within the Clippers org and he’s using that to push his agenda that they’re SO much better of an option than us.

Pythagoras · Post #106 » by **Pythagoras** » Tue May 7, 2019 5:22 pm

slifersd wrote:Stay honest with ourselves, and focus our energy on guys like Vucevic and Kemba. We are quite simply not going to be a strong contender for the top level stars and we need to make sure we don't strike out this summer. Focus on the second or third tier guys and make sure they fit right next to LBJ.

I honestly don’t think there’s that much of a difference between Kemba and Kyrie. He’s also got a pretty low amount of tread on the tires and I think he’s a pretty safe player to maintain his production over the next 4 years.

Post #107 » by **dockingsched** » Tue May 7, 2019 6:10 pm

Pythagoras wrote:
Slava wrote:I'm not saying the current circus show of a a management is in any way attractive to prospective top free agents but woj is simply pulling stuff out of his ass to fill some empty news cycles right now.

There's no way anyone like Leonard or Klay is talking about free agency in the heat of the playoffs.

Yeah, I agree. Woj is great when it comes to dropping breaking news but he also has shown he is not above to pushing narratives when it fits his agenda. He clearly has a close contact within the Clippers org and he’s using that to push his agenda that they’re SO much better of an option than us.

Anyone interested in how Woj goes about getting the scoops he does had to read this piece from a few years ago. Helps put everything Woj says into perspective.

https://newrepublic.com/article/120572/adrian-wojnarowski-how-basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops

Pythagoras · Post #108 » by **Pythagoras** » Tue May 7, 2019 7:16 pm

dockingsched wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:
Slava wrote:I'm not saying the current circus show of a a management is in any way attractive to prospective top free agents but woj is simply pulling stuff out of his ass to fill some empty news cycles right now.

There's no way anyone like Leonard or Klay is talking about free agency in the heat of the playoffs.

Yeah, I agree. Woj is great when it comes to dropping breaking news but he also has shown he is not above to pushing narratives when it fits his agenda. He clearly has a close contact within the Clippers org and he’s using that to push his agenda that they’re SO much better of an option than us.

Anyone interested in how Woj goes about getting the scoops he does had to read this piece from a few years ago. Helps put everything Woj says into perspective.

https://newrepublic.com/article/120572/adrian-wojnarowski-how-basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops

Man that piece was fantastic! It not only confirms what I was pretty sure I knew about Woj, but it also sheds light on how extreme he can be.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. The “Klay would prefer the Clippers over the Lakers” narrative if he goes back to LA is beyond absurd. Given how close Klay’s dad is with the Lakers organization then there's not a chance I buy the idea he’d prefer the Clips.

For the record I actually do think the Raptors are the favorites to keep Kawhi, but I don’t think the Clippers are favorites over us.

ROballer · Post #109 » by **ROballer** » Wed May 8, 2019 6:55 pm

Someone needs to photoshop Lebron's head on Thanos' body already and bring out his Endgame quote.

"You couldn't live with your own failure, and where did that bring you? Back to me".

Yeah, I'm talking about you Kyrie. It's done. He's our summer signing, whether we like it or not.

tamaraw08 · Post #110 » by **tamaraw08** » Wed May 8, 2019 9:57 pm

Pythagoras wrote:
slifersd wrote:Stay honest with ourselves, and focus our energy on guys like Vucevic and Kemba. We are quite simply not going to be a strong contender for the top level stars and we need to make sure we don't strike out this summer. Focus on the second or third tier guys and make sure they fit right next to LBJ.

I honestly don’t think there’s that much of a difference between Kemba and Kyrie. He’s also got a pretty low amount of tread on the tires and I think he’s a pretty safe player to maintain his production over the next 4 years.

Kyrie with a career 39% from the 3pt area is a much better shooter than Kemba who has a career 35%. Walker is more streaky but has been relatively healthier unlike Irving who has his share of injuries which is a risk but he also has proven to work really well next to Lebron esp under Lue.
But I understand that there are also risks involved with Kyrie signing elsewhere. Vegas odds had him most likely going to Brooklyn but to me, Kobe can actually reach out to him after he plays his final game with Boston bec Bryant is technically not with the Lakers and wouldn't be accused for tampering. Jeanie took in the rookie Pelinka (with mixed results) bec of Kobe, not it's time for Bryant to help this team again.

tamaraw08 · Post #111 » by **tamaraw08** » Wed May 8, 2019 10:01 pm

ROballer wrote:Someone needs to photoshop Lebron's head on Thanos' body already and bring out his Endgame quote.

"You couldn't live with your own failure, and where did that bring you? Back to me".

Yeah, I'm talking about you Kyrie. It's done. He's our summer signing, whether we like it or not.

Yeah but someone might photoshop KD's head on Ironman's body and steal that arm carrying those infinity Stones. Kyrie ends up in NY Lebron turns into an old Captain America.

Post #112 » by **zimpy27** » Thu May 9, 2019 1:34 am

hmmm

Read on Twitter

For people who don't know, this is LeBrons trainer, he was dropping hints that LeBron was going to the Lakers and Cavs the second time before they happened.

hazy_01 · Post #113 » by **hazy_01** » Thu May 9, 2019 3:27 am

Run it back, Kyrie

myersia · Post #114 » by **myersia** » Thu May 9, 2019 3:49 am

zimpy27 wrote:hmmm

Read on Twitter

For people who don't know, this is LeBrons trainer, he was dropping hints that LeBron was going to the Lakers and Cavs the second time before they happened.

I am beyond fine with Kyrie joining us

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Landsberger · Post #115 » by **Landsberger** » Thu May 9, 2019 4:13 am

zimpy27 wrote:hmmm

Read on Twitter

For people who don't know, this is LeBrons trainer, he was dropping hints that LeBron was going to the Lakers and Cavs the second time before they happened.

Not with Mac's number!

I'd be OK with Kyrie. He'd have to play off the ball which isn't his best use. He, Ball, Ingram and Bron all need to have the ball to be their most effective. If he's the 2 guard where does Ingram play?

Post #116 » by **zimpy27** » Thu May 9, 2019 4:47 am

Landsberger wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:hmmm

Read on Twitter

For people who don't know, this is LeBrons trainer, he was dropping hints that LeBron was going to the Lakers and Cavs the second time before they happened.

Not with Mac's number!

I'd be OK with Kyrie. He'd have to play off the ball which isn't his best use. He, Ball, Ingram and Bron all need to have the ball to be their most effective. If he's the 2 guard where does Ingram play?

Well this is a good friend of Kyrie's. Gone with Kyrie's Cavs number.

This is either an elaborate ploy by these guys or it's happening.

I can see Lakers cashing in everyone other than Irving and Bron for AD tbh. AD can slide under the salary cap next season and then allows Lakers to go into luxury the season after to sign him to a max.

The opportunity is just too great. I don't think too many Laker fans will complain about running out Kyrie, LeBron and AD, even if you have to lose all the youth for it.

ROballer · Post #117 » by **ROballer** » Thu May 9, 2019 5:00 am

If Irving comes I don't think you have to worry about Ball and Ingram anymore.

I think the play is rather simple. Irving first than the Davis trade saga all over again, this time talking with another GM who's in charge who has all the pressure on him knowing the looming FA of Davis in 2020. It's really his last year, NO won't go through that **** again(limiting his mins or don't play him at all).

Ball and Ingram are obv the pieces who need to be involved in the deal because they are some of our best young talent number one, and have the highest salaries on the payroll not named Lebron number two. We need to gather 21.4 mil in salaries to make it work under the NBA trading rules.

Ball, Ingram, Wagner and #11 is enough for that. And should be enough for NO to say yes as well. No Kuzma. No Hart.

Post #118 » by **zimpy27** » Thu May 9, 2019 5:04 am

ROballer wrote:If Irving comes I don't think you have to worry about Ball and Ingram anymore.

I think the play is rather simple. Irving first than the Davis trade saga all over again, this time talking with another GM who's in charge who has all the pressure on him knowing the looming FA of Davis in 2020. It's really his last year, NO won't go through that **** again(limiting his mins or don't play him at all).

Ball and Ingram are obv the pieces who need to be involved in the deal because they are some of our best young talent for one, and have the highest salaries on the payroll not named Lebron number 2. We need to gather 21.4 mil in salaries to make it work under the NBA trading rules.

Ball, Ingram, Wagner and #11 is enough for that. And should be enough for NO to say yes as well. No Kuzma. No Hart.

I think Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Wagner, Hart, pick 11, 2021 1st, 2023 1st will all be on the table. Some combination will get it done but don't be heartbroken if it's most, it depends on how good the GM is at negotiating. Keeping Hart and Kuzma is ideal though. Kyrie, Hart, LeBron, Kuzma, AD is a championship contender next season.

Landsberger · Post #119 » by **Landsberger** » Thu May 9, 2019 5:20 am

zimpy27 wrote:
ROballer wrote:If Irving comes I don't think you have to worry about Ball and Ingram anymore.

I think the play is rather simple. Irving first than the Davis trade saga all over again, this time talking with another GM who's in charge who has all the pressure on him knowing the looming FA of Davis in 2020. It's really his last year, NO won't go through that **** again(limiting his mins or don't play him at all).

Ball and Ingram are obv the pieces who need to be involved in the deal because they are some of our best young talent for one, and have the highest salaries on the payroll not named Lebron number 2. We need to gather 21.4 mil in salaries to make it work under the NBA trading rules.

Ball, Ingram, Wagner and #11 is enough for that. And should be enough for NO to say yes as well. No Kuzma. No Hart.

I think Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Wagner, Hart, pick 11, 2021 1st, 2023 1st will all be on the table. Some combination will get it done but don't be heartbroken if it's most, it depends on how good the GM is at negotiating. Keeping Hart and Kuzma is ideal though. Kyrie, Hart, LeBron, Kuzma, AD is a championship contender next season.

If we an get AD having a guy like Kuzma who isn't ball dominant and can still contribute at a high level would be ideal. I'd worry about Ingram in that mix and most likely losing him for nothing the next year. It's about balance and fit over having 5 great individual players. So many times in the NBA teams have tried that only to see it fail.

ROballer · Post #120 » by **ROballer** » Thu May 9, 2019 5:32 am

Yeah, we're not giving them EVERYTHING. They could've had that, they said no, they burned that bridge.

Keep in mind, us possibly having Irving means Boston is basically out of the sweepstakes.
Who's left as our competition?

NO will get what they can and that's enough of a return for an expiring contract.