All things number 4. Trade or draft? Let the rumors begin

SlimShady83 · Post #101 » by **SlimShady83** » Wed May 15, 2019 6:48 am

I don't care if we do trade for AD

But please, please don't trade Ingram and King Kuzma in the package - I mean 1 OR the other is ok, just not both

We need to keep at least one of the above 2

they will be great in a year or 2

Michael Lucky · Post #102 » by **Michael Lucky** » Wed May 15, 2019 7:09 am

Danny Darko wrote:Laker backup plan

Los Angeles Lakers Get: Bradley Beal, No. 9 pick

Washington Wizards Get: Brandon Ingram, No. 4 pick

If the Lakers don't think they're going to get Davis—whether because New Orleans takes him off the block or because it's clear someone else has the best offer—they should pivot to adding veteran firepower around LeBron James.

For the above deal to work, the Lakers would have to include some salary filler. Let's focus on the overall structure and worry about those details later.

Bradley Beal proved he could run the show with John Wall sidelined last year, and he's precisely the kind of perimeter threat who would thrive alongside James. A career 38.4 percent three-point shooter, Beal would offer high-volume, high-efficiency offense, and it doesn't hurt that he's spent most of his career as a second option.

sigh why is Beal so overvalued in this league. I donr get it

Spanish_Laker · Post #103 » by **Spanish_Laker** » Wed May 15, 2019 7:46 am

We got really lucky, thanks the Gods. If we don't land a top FA (KL, Klay, KD) then use it to get AD and if the price is too high, just draft a great shooter or a decent C.

Spens1 · Post #104 » by **Spens1** » Wed May 15, 2019 7:56 am

I would love to see RJ slip to us at 4, cause he would be ideal. However the logical thing would be 4 for A.D probably (well, 4 + Ingram for A.D, i'd love for us to get a straight swap).

I mean, i'd also be down to move up to get Zion (cause Zion looks straight up ready to go screw you, i'm going back to Duke or i'm going to Europe, he looks like he's having none of New Orleans and rightfully so, they're a mess).

nymets1 · Post #105 » by **nymets1** » Wed May 15, 2019 8:14 am

Well everyone knows Zion, JA and Barrett are the top 3 picks so really the NBA draft at #4 overall begins with the Lakers. I've heard Garland as the possible choice but it could be anybody.

Dr Aki · Post #106 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed May 15, 2019 8:20 am

the only player type the lakers are really missing is a trae young, shoot off the screen if you go under, speed demon type

that's garland to a T

Watch on YouTube

Post #107 » by **Slava** » Wed May 15, 2019 8:30 am

Dr Aki wrote:the only player type the lakers are really missing is a trae young, shoot off the screen if you go under type, speed demon type

that's garland to a T

Watch on YouTube

Yeah if we keep that pick, Garland is the guy I want us taking. Hachimura is enticing for the physical profile alone but I doubt we have the player development staff to take him to the orbit of someone like Leonard.

nzahir · Post #108 » by **nzahir** » Wed May 15, 2019 8:36 am

Slava wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:the only player type the lakers are really missing is a trae young, shoot off the screen if you go under type, speed demon type

that's garland to a T

Watch on YouTube

Yeah if we keep that pick, Garland is the guy I want us taking. Hachimura is enticing for the physical profile alone but I doubt we have the player development staff to take him to the orbit of someone like Leonard.

I don't trust this org at all for development

Don't trust them for anything tbh.

Luckily we have cap space and tons of assets, if they can't get anything done this offseason with everything set up for them, then I think its time for Bron to request a trade or for LAL to even look to move him

Dr Aki · Post #109 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed May 15, 2019 9:10 am

reading and watching more garland, it seems as if the relevant player comps are (once he gets onto a NBA strength training scheme)
- kyrie irving
- steph curry
- damian lillard
- trae young

yeh, he'd be a quintessential modern NBA point guard and probably the best shooter that can create his own shot in the draft

SlimShady83 · Post #110 » by **SlimShady83** » Wed May 15, 2019 9:41 am

He only 6'ft 3 I'd rather no shoot Ball IMO but got a feeling he'll be used as trade bait though

ardee · Post #111 » by **ardee** » Wed May 15, 2019 10:07 am

Danny Darko wrote:The 2000's have been brutal but look at the other decades haha

The 2000s were the best... 3 Hall of Famers in 6 years.

bb22 · Post #112 » by **bb22** » Wed May 15, 2019 10:33 am

Lonzo next to a scoring PG is perfect. I hope the Lakers don't overthink and draft another player based on position.
Take the most talented scorer out there.

PKABOOICU · Post #113 » by **PKABOOICU** » Wed May 15, 2019 12:27 pm

Trade the Pick+Kuzma and salary dumps for Beal. It would be a very cheap, under the radar way to try and get an allstar caliber player.

If that doesnt work, try to sell the farm + the pick for AD again.

If that doesnt work, draft Garland at 4, and Trade Lonzo for the 7th to the Bulls, draft the best available player.

Michael Lucky · Post #114 » by **Michael Lucky** » Wed May 15, 2019 12:48 pm

Damn some of you are really dead set on trading the pick and losing our cap space in one go with this Beal nonesense. Lol

Hoopz Afrik · Post #115 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Wed May 15, 2019 12:56 pm

milesfides wrote:Trade Lebron to the Pelicans for no.1. Everybody’s happy

Give it a rest

Hoopz Afrik · Post #116 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Wed May 15, 2019 12:59 pm

If I'm Rob, I'm considering everything but I'm not in any rush to deal that pick. To many folks point, Darius Garland is a gem hidden in plain sight. I had him as my top PG in the class until he got hurt then Ja went on an epic run and put that theory to rest. Darius has a lot of translatable skills and though he needs to get bigger to endure the rigors of the NBA, I really think he could end up being a multi time all-star in this NBA.

Michael Lucky · Post #117 » by **Michael Lucky** » Wed May 15, 2019 1:03 pm

Yeah well theres a good chance we wont pick him. Too many mocks have Culver, Hunter, Rui up there.

AcecardZ · Post #118 » by **AcecardZ** » Wed May 15, 2019 1:07 pm

milesfides wrote:Trade Lebron to the Pelicans for no.1. Everybody’s happy

I doubt the Lakers have any combo of assets that would inspire the Pels to part with Zion.

Hoopz Afrik · Post #119 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Wed May 15, 2019 1:09 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:
Danny Darko wrote:Laker backup plan

Los Angeles Lakers Get: Bradley Beal, No. 9 pick

Washington Wizards Get: Brandon Ingram, No. 4 pick

If the Lakers don't think they're going to get Davis—whether because New Orleans takes him off the block or because it's clear someone else has the best offer—they should pivot to adding veteran firepower around LeBron James.

For the above deal to work, the Lakers would have to include some salary filler. Let's focus on the overall structure and worry about those details later.

Bradley Beal proved he could run the show with John Wall sidelined last year, and he's precisely the kind of perimeter threat who would thrive alongside James. A career 38.4 percent three-point shooter, Beal would offer high-volume, high-efficiency offense, and it doesn't hurt that he's spent most of his career as a second option.
sigh why is Beal so overvalued in this league. I donr get it

I wouldn't say he's overrated. He's your quintessential #2/robin/beta whatever you want to call it for a player like LeBron and a good backcourt mate for a player like Lonzo as well. You'd have to imagine a starting line of Lonzo, Beal, Bron, Kuz, (JaVale?/insert center here) would be a good fit alongside each other. He's still relatively young. Shoots well off the dribble and in catch and shoot situations. Very underrated floor game as well, took huge strides in that department over the last two szns.

meetbishop · Post #120 » by **meetbishop** » Wed May 15, 2019 2:33 pm

Danny Darko wrote:

Read on Twitter

The hand of the King!!! King James' hand??