will kuzma be an all star for lakers or just a good role player?

[NippySudz]

So far, kuz is averaging 9pts on 37%fg and 13% from three.

Rough start for him but I can't see him being worse than last year.

He'll bring it up.

But so far, not seeing any indication of all-star.


I like the fadeway he ripped in the baseline in the Chicago game, I believe. Textbook Kobe, one fluid motion. You can tell he really worked on those moves in the off season

But the jumper still needs work. His moves needs work.

I feel like with his size, he could abuse players in the post on mismatches but he's kinda lacking the strength

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[bb22]

So far, kuz is averaging 9pts on 37%fg and 13% from three.

Rough start for him but I can't see him being worse than last year.

He'll bring it up.

But so far, not seeing any indication of all-star.


I like the fadeway he ripped in the baseline in the Chicago game, I believe. Textbook Kobe, one fluid motion. You can tell he really worked on those moves in the off season

But the jumper still needs work. His moves needs work.

I feel like with his size, he could abuse players in the post on mismatches but he's kinda lacking the strength

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He should stop trying to emulate Kobe and reach for more realistic expectations. He should model his offense after the GSW version of Livingston. He's gotta work on his handles and passing, though.

[myersia]

I give him a month until I completely request to trade him. But right now....he’s really bad at defense still and he’s not great on offense right now. Streaky shooter.

[NippySudz]

Played terrible tonight outside of his two timely threes.

And that being said, i don't think they trade him.

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[Spanish_Laker]

He is trash. Can't play any D, his shot is broken and a turnover machine. However, he is coming back from injury so I will wait until January 2020 to start asking for his trade.

[Kilroy]

I think they might be showcasing Kuz... He's clearly not 100%, yet they're giving him decent minutes and pushing him in at crunch time.
Whereas I think they may be trying to protect KCPs stats.

I think we're going hard at Iggy. If we don't get him, I think we might just roll with what we have and hope Kuz gets some mojo...

[Beethoven]

What happened to this guy? I remember when he first started couple years back he fluorished more than the expectations of the other newbies bc of his work ethic, character , and urgency of wanting to get better. Now I see him, all I see is a young guy all caught up in his looks, flashy clothes , and media attention. Not sure if I am in the right here for thinking this.

[LAKESHOW]

I like kuz. Thats all i got for now. Im not gonna get into the defensive side to side mobility. Turnovers. Streakyness part.

[Spanish_Laker]

IG, posturing and dating girls will ruin his career unless he changes his priorities.

[chefy]

he used to be really good at cutting and moving without the ball, one thing that im kinda disappointed about right now.

the last couple of games he looked flatfooted and stagnant a lot of times.

[NippySudz]

he used to be really good at cutting and moving without the ball, one thing that im kinda disappointed about right now.

the last couple of games he looked flatfooted and stagnant a lot of times.

He'll return to that, maybe but it might be the spacing. With bigs in the paint, it clogs the paint

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[TyCobb]

KCP and Kuz for Dinwiddie and a 2nd round pick.

[NippySudz]

KCP and Kuz for Dinwiddie and a 2nd round pick.

Fantasy world

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[Landsberger]

It's 5 games in and I'm not going to make any conclusions on him. He's still slowed by the injury and he's not in true game shape yet. It's a new system and a lot of new teammates and he's not comfortable at the moment.

On the plus side he's at least not out of position offside on defense now and he's active and showing improvement on that end IMHO. His jumper will come back as he gets in shape and the injury fully heals.

I'm not in the camp that Kuz is a 3 point shooter for us or is worthless. That's a big group here it seems. The guy shot 55% from inside the arc last year and got 18+ points a game. Right now he's been largely camping at the 3 point line and is off the ball most of the time. Not sure if that's a designed role or that he's just not fully knowing what his teammates are doing. I think he's at his best slashing with or without the ball. He needs to dial the 3 pointers back to about 3-5 a game and up attacking the hoop. If he does that we'll see his value offensively.

As for trading him. I don't see him being moved unless he's still playing like this in January. I highly doubt he will be.

[NippySudz]

It's 5 games in and I'm not going to make any conclusions on him. He's still slowed by the injury and he's not in true game shape yet. It's a new system and a lot of new teammates and he's not comfortable at the moment.

On the plus side he's at least not out of position offside on defense now and he's active and showing improvement on that end IMHO. His jumper will come back as he gets in shape and the injury fully heals.

I'm not in the camp that Kuz is a 3 point shooter for us or is worthless. That's a big group here it seems. The guy shot 55% from inside the arc last year and got 18+ points a game. Right now he's been largely camping at the 3 point line and is off the ball most of the time. Not sure if that's a designed role or that he's just not fully knowing what his teammates are doing. I think he's at his best slashing with or without the ball. He needs to dial the 3 pointers back to about 3-5 a game and up attacking the hoop. If he does that we'll see his value offensively.

As for trading him. I don't see him being moved unless he's still playing like this in January. I highly doubt he will be.

I think slashing and midrange floater are good shots for him. I don't think he needs to shoot the three the way he does. Honestly, his best chances at becoming a consistent three point shooter is shooting in the corner. Seems like that's a high percentage shot for him to make.

As I said before he needs to find his spots and that'll take time

But I also don't think he's very good in the sense that when the playoffs come, they're going to be looking to switch on him and that his shot may not be consistent enough to keep him on the floor.

We'll see. I don't have an issue with kuz per se but I do have an issue with fans who buy into his hype when he hasn't done or shown anything yet to warrant such hype.

He's a role player. Some people want to make him out to be a bidding all-star or Superstar.

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[Landsberger]

It's 5 games in and I'm not going to make any conclusions on him. He's still slowed by the injury and he's not in true game shape yet. It's a new system and a lot of new teammates and he's not comfortable at the moment.

On the plus side he's at least not out of position offside on defense now and he's active and showing improvement on that end IMHO. His jumper will come back as he gets in shape and the injury fully heals.

I'm not in the camp that Kuz is a 3 point shooter for us or is worthless. That's a big group here it seems. The guy shot 55% from inside the arc last year and got 18+ points a game. Right now he's been largely camping at the 3 point line and is off the ball most of the time. Not sure if that's a designed role or that he's just not fully knowing what his teammates are doing. I think he's at his best slashing with or without the ball. He needs to dial the 3 pointers back to about 3-5 a game and up attacking the hoop. If he does that we'll see his value offensively.

As for trading him. I don't see him being moved unless he's still playing like this in January. I highly doubt he will be.

I think slashing and midrange floater are good shots for him. I don't think he needs to shoot the three the way he does. Honestly, his best chances at becoming a consistent three point shooter is shooting in the corner. Seems like that's a high percentage shot for him to make.

As I said before he needs to find his spots and that'll take time

But I also don't think he's very good in the sense that when the playoffs come, they're going to be looking to switch on him and that his shot may not be consistent enough to keep him on the floor.

We'll see. I don't have an issue with kuz per se but I do have an issue with fans who buy into his hype when he hasn't done or shown anything yet to warrant such hype.

He's a role player. Some people want to make him out to be a bidding all-star or Superstar.

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It was the BI or Kuz stuff last year that got fans here to kind of pick sides. I never saw it as a competition in many ways. BI was the second pick and anything less than an all star position is deemed a failure by many. I wasn't a fan of keeping BI which is different than not being a fan of him as a player. BI's role on a team will be as the alpha and I don't see him taking a team very deep in that role. As a player I like a lot of his game but as a guy to build around I don't think he's a guy you do that with.

With Kuz I see a perfect 3rd wheel on a good/great team. He doesn't demand the ball like BI does but was every bit as effective. In the last couple of years he was able to score at a very high rate without having to dribble or isolate. That's a very valuable player with 2 superstars. Now he hasn't shown that yet this year and as you say.... maybe he was just a guy getting stats on a bad team the last couple years but at $1.9M I'm going to give it the entire year.

One thing I will add about him in his brief career.... he's shown an ability to score down the stretch in games that none of our other youngsters did. He seems to really want to win.

[NippySudz]

It's 5 games in and I'm not going to make any conclusions on him. He's still slowed by the injury and he's not in true game shape yet. It's a new system and a lot of new teammates and he's not comfortable at the moment.

On the plus side he's at least not out of position offside on defense now and he's active and showing improvement on that end IMHO. His jumper will come back as he gets in shape and the injury fully heals.

I'm not in the camp that Kuz is a 3 point shooter for us or is worthless. That's a big group here it seems. The guy shot 55% from inside the arc last year and got 18+ points a game. Right now he's been largely camping at the 3 point line and is off the ball most of the time. Not sure if that's a designed role or that he's just not fully knowing what his teammates are doing. I think he's at his best slashing with or without the ball. He needs to dial the 3 pointers back to about 3-5 a game and up attacking the hoop. If he does that we'll see his value offensively.

As for trading him. I don't see him being moved unless he's still playing like this in January. I highly doubt he will be.

I think slashing and midrange floater are good shots for him. I don't think he needs to shoot the three the way he does. Honestly, his best chances at becoming a consistent three point shooter is shooting in the corner. Seems like that's a high percentage shot for him to make.

As I said before he needs to find his spots and that'll take time

But I also don't think he's very good in the sense that when the playoffs come, they're going to be looking to switch on him and that his shot may not be consistent enough to keep him on the floor.

We'll see. I don't have an issue with kuz per se but I do have an issue with fans who buy into his hype when he hasn't done or shown anything yet to warrant such hype.

He's a role player. Some people want to make him out to be a bidding all-star or Superstar.

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It was the BI or Kuz stuff last year that got fans here to kind of pick sides. I never saw it as a competition in many ways. BI was the second pick and anything less than an all star position is deemed a failure by many. I wasn't a fan of keeping BI which is different than not being a fan of him as a player. BI's role on a team will be as the alpha and I don't see him taking a team very deep in that role. As a player I like a lot of his game but as a guy to build around I don't think he's a guy you do that with.

With Kuz I see a perfect 3rd wheel on a good/great team. He doesn't demand the ball like BI does but was every bit as effective. In the last couple of years he was able to score at a very high rate without having to dribble or isolate. That's a very valuable player with 2 superstars. Now he hasn't shown that yet this year and as you say.... maybe he was just a guy getting stats on a bad team the last couple years but at $1.9M I'm going to give it the entire year.

One thing I will add about him in his brief career.... he's shown an ability to score down the stretch in games that none of our other youngsters did. He seems to really want to win.

I think kuz did a great job of playing Instagram and selling fans the image tbat be was working hard. For all we know, he very well may have.

I see him as a role player. Every so often he might give you a 30+ game but I think he's going to be inconsistent.

Ingram would have been a good fit for this the off the bench. A wing that can get buckets and play with ad while LeBron is out.

If kuzma continues to coming off the bench, I don't see him getting 18pts a game. That's montrezl harrel numbers who finished second in six man of the year. Montrezl is averaging 19pts right now. On crazy efficiency.

I see 14-15 points per game.

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[Landsberger]

I think slashing and midrange floater are good shots for him. I don't think he needs to shoot the three the way he does. Honestly, his best chances at becoming a consistent three point shooter is shooting in the corner. Seems like that's a high percentage shot for him to make.

As I said before he needs to find his spots and that'll take time

But I also don't think he's very good in the sense that when the playoffs come, they're going to be looking to switch on him and that his shot may not be consistent enough to keep him on the floor.

We'll see. I don't have an issue with kuz per se but I do have an issue with fans who buy into his hype when he hasn't done or shown anything yet to warrant such hype.

He's a role player. Some people want to make him out to be a bidding all-star or Superstar.

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It was the BI or Kuz stuff last year that got fans here to kind of pick sides. I never saw it as a competition in many ways. BI was the second pick and anything less than an all star position is deemed a failure by many. I wasn't a fan of keeping BI which is different than not being a fan of him as a player. BI's role on a team will be as the alpha and I don't see him taking a team very deep in that role. As a player I like a lot of his game but as a guy to build around I don't think he's a guy you do that with.

With Kuz I see a perfect 3rd wheel on a good/great team. He doesn't demand the ball like BI does but was every bit as effective. In the last couple of years he was able to score at a very high rate without having to dribble or isolate. That's a very valuable player with 2 superstars. Now he hasn't shown that yet this year and as you say.... maybe he was just a guy getting stats on a bad team the last couple years but at $1.9M I'm going to give it the entire year.

One thing I will add about him in his brief career.... he's shown an ability to score down the stretch in games that none of our other youngsters did. He seems to really want to win.

I think kuz did a great job of playing Instagram and selling fans the image tbat be was working hard. For all we know, he very well may have.

I see him as a role player. Every so often he might give you a 30+ game but I think he's going to be inconsistent.

Ingram would have been a good fit for this the off the bench. A wing that can get buckets and play with ad while LeBron is out.

If kuzma continues to coming off the bench, I don't see him getting 18pts a game. That's montrezl harrel numbers who finished second in six man of the year. Montrezl is averaging 19pts right now. On crazy efficiency.

I see 14-15 points per game.

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Ingram wouldn't come off the bench for more than the year left on his contract. He'd leave the next year. He doesn't complement either of our top 2 guys either. He's primarily and isolation scorer and he'd be on the floor with 2 others. As for 30 and 40 point games... he had more of those than any of our other recent draft picks and showed more scoring consistency than any of them to boot over the last 2 years. I think you are discounting what he's done. If you factor in games played in your "consistency" discussion he becomes even more valuable IMHO. Let's see what he looks like after 25 games.

[NippySudz]

It was the BI or Kuz stuff last year that got fans here to kind of pick sides. I never saw it as a competition in many ways. BI was the second pick and anything less than an all star position is deemed a failure by many. I wasn't a fan of keeping BI which is different than not being a fan of him as a player. BI's role on a team will be as the alpha and I don't see him taking a team very deep in that role. As a player I like a lot of his game but as a guy to build around I don't think he's a guy you do that with.

With Kuz I see a perfect 3rd wheel on a good/great team. He doesn't demand the ball like BI does but was every bit as effective. In the last couple of years he was able to score at a very high rate without having to dribble or isolate. That's a very valuable player with 2 superstars. Now he hasn't shown that yet this year and as you say.... maybe he was just a guy getting stats on a bad team the last couple years but at $1.9M I'm going to give it the entire year.

One thing I will add about him in his brief career.... he's shown an ability to score down the stretch in games that none of our other youngsters did. He seems to really want to win.

I think kuz did a great job of playing Instagram and selling fans the image tbat be was working hard. For all we know, he very well may have.

I see him as a role player. Every so often he might give you a 30+ game but I think he's going to be inconsistent.

Ingram would have been a good fit for this the off the bench. A wing that can get buckets and play with ad while LeBron is out.

If kuzma continues to coming off the bench, I don't see him getting 18pts a game. That's montrezl harrel numbers who finished second in six man of the year. Montrezl is averaging 19pts right now. On crazy efficiency.

I see 14-15 points per game.

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Ingram wouldn't come off the bench for more than the year left on his contract. He'd leave the next year. He doesn't complement either of our top 2 guys either. He's primarily and isolation scorer and he'd be on the floor with 2 others. As for 30 and 40 point games... he had more of those than any of our other recent draft picks and showed more scoring consistency than any of them to boot over the last 2 years. I think you are discounting what he's done. If you factor in games played in your "consistency" discussion he becomes even more valuable IMHO. Let's see what he looks like after 25 games.

Fair enough. Let's give him time.

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[stan francisco]

He’s a baller. A big game baller. Needs to get his legs and cardio up to NBA conditioning. He’s some 15 games (preseason) behind the rest of the roster.