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Coach Search: Dan Hurley out, now who

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Re: Coach Search: Dan Hurley out, now who 

Post#101 » by danfantastk32 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:59 pm

Landsberger wrote:After that we have nothing in the way of "special talent" on the team.


Ha! Do we even have "good talent"? Harsh...but I'd say no. This new play-in game has masked the fact that we are a sub-playoff team for several years. Even with our two stars playing essentially all last season.

I don't know why anyone who actually likes a coach, and thinks they could be something, would want to drag them here?
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Re: Coach Search: Dan Hurley out, now who 

Post#102 » by tamaraw08 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:16 pm

zuju wrote:Its only about 3peat at NCAA?

if so, don't even attend the interview and consider a few days. Outright reject it from the very beginning.

Feeling Lakers was used for his own leverage.

Also means the chance of hiring Hurley in the future tends to zero. Unless we got an opening again next season.


Hurley and his agent used the Lakers as leverage to get a raise.

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2024/6/11/24176225/dan-hurley-lakers-head-coach-contract-offer-hail-mary-nba-report-rumors
What is clear, whether it was intentional or not, is that the Lakers were used as leverage here. Hurley came away from this with a bigger contract offer than he had from UConn and the Lakers are still without a head coach.
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Re: Coach Search: Dan Hurley out, now who 

Post#103 » by TylersLakers » Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:11 pm

If we hire Borrego - I have no idea what to say. He checks 0 of the boxes that were talked about when they were trying to hire Hurley. A classic retread coach that will be fired in 2 years.
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Post#104 » by danfantastk32 » Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:36 pm

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What is clear, whether it was intentional or not, is that the Lakers were used as leverage here. Hurley came away from this with a bigger contract offer than he had from UConn and the Lakers are still without a head coach.


What the Lakers offered, was a pretty sweet deal. It's more than he's getting at UConn. So I don't think the FO was "cheap" this time. That said...what bugs me is whether this was a leverage move from the get-go, or if Hurley was massively underwhelmed with "the Pitch" he received in LA......it's a sad commentary on where the Lakers are at right now. Pick your poison: Uconn looks more promising than the Lakers. Or the Lakers are just a leverage punching bag at this point.

To have used the Lakers for leverage....and yet still left $$$ on the table? Yikes. I think he saw dysfunction....hubris, no plan (or crap one). He realized what many think: The Lakers are a dumpster fire.

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Post#105 » by zuju » Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:57 am

It was reported that Uconn made a raise prior to Lakers news broke out. If that's true, the leverage talk can die down instantly.

No one will know what Hurley think, whether he had interest in the position and found Pelinka's plan appealing but really want a 3peat at Uconn or Lakers was too much of a mess to take up the job.

If the Lakers keen on getting him as the next long term head coach, they may hire an older experienced coach this season like Jay Wright. When he retires in 2-3 years, you grab Hurley to replace him. I mean when he retires, not fired :lol:
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Post#106 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:34 am

This in some ways kinda old news.
Tons and Tons of free agents have used the LAKERS as leverage to jack up the prices from a competing team. Hurley and Woj have entered into that realm like many others before them
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Re: Coach Search: Dan Hurley out, now who 

Post#107 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:45 pm

Hmmmm.....

""One of the worst takes I've heard is that this is a leverage play by me to improve my situation at UConn," Hurley said on the show. "I don't need leverage here. We've won back-to-back national championships at this place. This was never a leverage situation for me.

"I've had a contract in place here for a couple of weeks. And the final part, in terms of salary, has been done for a while. There are some other parts, like NIL and staff salary and some different things, that I want adjusted and I'm not comfortable with. But the sense of the idea that this was some conspiracy to get me a sweeter deal at UConn is just, it's lazy.""



Well, if true (I think the first paragraph makes sense) then it points to the "dumpster fire" theory.

Later in the interview (Dan Le Batard show) Hurley does admit that there is obviously a number the Lakers could have thrown at him where he would have had no choice.....but he does say it woulda had to have been high, and that the $$$ wasn't the motivating factor (I mean....it was more than the UConn offer....and there is no mention of any back and forth. Sounds like he got the offer....sat on it for the weekend, and told them no).

So for me....the offer the Lakers gave was better. Unless I hear that he wanted $80, or something, and was told no....I have no reason to believe there were negotiations that fell short. And so then we tackle the leverage issue. I gotta agree with him: back to back titles.....this guy had all the leverage he needed already. Unless he's flat-out lying....which in today's world, you know is gonna come back to bite you. He's no fool, and doesn't need to fabricate something that can be easily fact-checked. I get there are politics, and people keep things to the vest, and there's prob SOME leverage being played...even if unintentional. But I think the idea that this was a leverage play, is really just unnecessary on his part, and he'd a be fool to cite something that can be disproved, or even just contested so easily.

So I'm left with him taking less money to stay at UConn, and pass on the Lakers.....because that had the bigger appeal.

Could there be family.....a feeling like he owed some of the kids to return? Sure. I get it's a hard decision. You got your staff, and all that.....there's a million little things. But this was a 6-year deal with the Lakers, and for more $$$. I feel like this sells itself. There musta been some "un-selling" at that meeting.

Oh well.....I guess it's on to JJ. SMH
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Re: Coach Search: Dan Hurley out, now who 

Post#108 » by MAMBAEMD » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:56 pm

Hurley is a great coach but he clearly played both the Lakers and UConn for leverage.
And he used his mouthpiece Woj, for whom I have very little respect journalistically since he is easily bought and sold (Clippers, UConn) for stories.

I'm actually impressed that the Lakers did go in with a massive offer. $70 million for a coach is not "low-balling"
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Post#109 » by TylersLakers » Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:28 pm

Redick now likely to be the coach. Meeting with the Lakers.

What an absolute sham this Hurley thing was and I knew it from the start. The timeline is so easy to put together. This was nothing but Woj trying to get his buddy a better contract and the Lakers likely trying to make their process to hiring JJ look a little better.

1) Lakers are zeroing in on hiring JJ Redick as their coach - last Monday, reported by Shams

2) Thursday morning: Reports of the Lakers focusing in on chasing Hurley - Hmmm - what changed? Hurley clearly told Woj he was interested if the Lakers were willing to pay up and offer an insane number. If they don't? Oh well, he'll get a new deal with UConn.

3) Thursday evening: Reports of Hurley's contract wants come from Hurley's side. 8 for 100M as reported by a few people and Bill Simmons reported 7 for 120. This is essentially Hurley's camp telling the Lakers - "If you want him, this is what you're going to have to pay."

4) Friday: - Lakers and Hurley meet. Conversation goes well. Lakers present an offer. 6 for $70M. A good offer but not near Hurley's wants.

5) Monday morning: Hurley towns down the Lakers job. Stays at UConn. Is in talks for a new deal. Did the Lakers lowball because they just wanted it to seem like they were doing more due diligence to looking at other options before hiring JJ Redick? Probably. Are they cheap? In some ways. Did they want Hurley bad enough to throw him a godfather offer? No.

So all in all:

- Woj looks fantastic as the insider breaking the Hurley news
- Hurley looks great for recruiting. He turned down the Lakers to coach you, kid. Oh yeah, he also got a new deal. Sweet.
- Lakers look cheap (as per usual), but at least their process looks better - so they think.
- JJ Redick - Come on down.

Why can't this organization just do things like any normal functional basketball team? Timeline of events should've been:

- Early May: Fire Ham
- Immediately after: Put a list together. If I was them, I'd have: Hurley, Redick, Cassell, Adelman, Nori, Borrego, Jay Wright, Bill Self, Mark Few.
- Immediately after: Interview those coaches. If Hurley is your preference, talk to him about contract details. What he's looking for.
- After that: Hire the coach.

I can bet they only interviewed 3 people and waited so long because they wanted to see what would happen with Ty Lue.

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Post#110 » by MAMBAEMD » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:18 am

Solid post
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Post#111 » by Godfather13 » Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:37 pm

TylersLakers wrote:Redick now likely to be the coach. Meeting with the Lakers.

What an absolute sham this Hurley thing was and I knew it from the start. The timeline is so easy to put together. This was nothing but Woj trying to get his buddy a better contract and the Lakers likely trying to make their process to hiring JJ look a little better.

1) Lakers are zeroing in on hiring JJ Redick as their coach - last Monday, reported by Shams

2) Thursday morning: Reports of the Lakers focusing in on chasing Hurley - Hmmm - what changed? Hurley clearly told Woj he was interested if the Lakers were willing to pay up and offer an insane number. If they don't? Oh well, he'll get a new deal with UConn.

3) Thursday evening: Reports of Hurley's contract wants come from Hurley's side. 8 for 100M as reported by a few people and Bill Simmons reported 7 for 120. This is essentially Hurley's camp telling the Lakers - "If you want him, this is what you're going to have to pay."

4) Friday: - Lakers and Hurley meet. Conversation goes well. Lakers present an offer. 6 for $70M. A good offer but not near Hurley's wants.

5) Monday morning: Hurley towns down the Lakers job. Stays at UConn. Is in talks for a new deal. Did the Lakers lowball because they just wanted it to seem like they were doing more due diligence to looking at other options before hiring JJ Redick? Probably. Are they cheap? In some ways. Did they want Hurley bad enough to throw him a godfather offer? No.

So all in all:

- Woj looks fantastic as the insider breaking the Hurley news
- Hurley looks great for recruiting. He turned down the Lakers to coach you, kid. Oh yeah, he also got a new deal. Sweet.
- Lakers look cheap (as per usual), but at least their process looks better - so they think.
- JJ Redick - Come on down.

Why can't this organization just do things like any normal functional basketball team? Timeline of events should've been:

- Early May: Fire Ham
- Immediately after: Put a list together. If I was them, I'd have: Hurley, Redick, Cassell, Adelman, Nori, Borrego, Jay Wright, Bill Self, Mark Few.
- Immediately after: Interview those coaches. If Hurley is your preference, talk to him about contract details. What he's looking for.
- After that: Hire the coach.

I can bet they only interviewed 3 people and waited so long because they wanted to see what would happen with Ty Lue.

Joke.


Nice pod summary.

https://www.youtube.com/live/z4rLQtJyjjM?si=IFXG7df-joc4HTyj

A lot of macro stuff in agreement with your thoughts, some minutia a bit different.

Sounds like Woj just created the link out of thin air to not be one-upped by Shams capturing the Lakers coaching updates before him. And then he really tried to be matchmaker and failed.

Lakers FO looking like some complete idiots getting played like this. Kawhi did something similar. This is embarrassing
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Post#112 » by Beethoven » Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:00 pm

Let's hire Rondo and be done with it.
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Post#113 » by Danny Darko » Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:44 pm

Gimme Becky, Rondo, or Reddick at this point. Mostly sell the team get rid of Rambis and wife and form a better future vision
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Post#114 » by stan francisco » Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:56 am

Danny Darko wrote:Gimme Becky, Rondo, or Reddick at this point. Mostly sell the team get rid of Rambis and wife and form a better future vision


Time for the Rambii to step aside, indeed. But Jeannie will likely never sell, would be my guess.

Let Rob have his way selecting roster and coaches. Klutch, namaste-thefcuk-away unless your only agenda is winning another -ship for Bron.

From that list, Becky Hammon is my first choice.

Rondo is my preference over Reddick if I had to choose between the two, simply because he doesn’t take any isht from anyone and tells it like it is even if you’re LBJ. Reddick would be Bron’s beeyatch.

How about hiring two coaches? Defensive coach: Rondo. Offensive coach: Reddick. Head coach? Let them play one on one for the honors.

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Post#115 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:03 pm

Lakers FO really need to get the right HC. I was hoping for a proven tactician but all of them are with their present teams right now.
So I think they don't a choice but to hire an unproven guy. That prospect NEED to admit he needs HELP and not say "I know exactly how to fix this team by myself"
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Post#116 » by LakersSoul » Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:40 pm

Add JJ and give him vet AC and add Handy plus Luke Murray.

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Post#117 » by Danny Darko » Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:24 pm

Monty Williams was fired? He'll be in play
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Post#118 » by Danny Darko » Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:49 am

Enough of either Rambis already

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Post#119 » by AmusingFiddle » Thu Jun 20, 2024 4:11 am

Danny Darko wrote:Enough of either Rambis already

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+1. Enough with the Rambi' already.

This moron is referring to JJ Reddick as a "Pod Cost host" getting hired to be a HC of the Lakers. Conveniently leaves out all other achievements and basketball acumen.

I am so tired of the nonsense we keep hearing from ESPN, FoxSports (both TV & Radio); bunch yahoos' talkin BS. First they speculate on whats potentially going on; then present their opinion as if their speculation is fact.
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Post#120 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:35 am

Get on the phone with Monty Williams now. YOU MUST at the very least interview Monty
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