2015 Lakers Trade Deadline thread

[Pointgod]

I pose this with no sense of the Lakers or Laker fans view of Isaiah Thomas and his contract, or what LA's thinking is on the PG position for the future, but still curious as to your reaction to this trade prop...

-Isaiah Thomas
-Suns 2015 1st round pick (top 13 protected)

For

-Steve Nash 9.7 million dollar expiring contract
-Ed Davis
-Lakers remove protection on this year's pick

So lets look at this from a phoenix standpoint. Lose IT, and 2015 Suns pick to get Ed Davis, Nash, and 2015 Lakers Pick with no protection. Trade breaks down to IT for ED Davis and Nash with a swap of 2015 picks where LA gets PHO if outside 13 and Pho get the LA pick regardless of where it stands. They remove a player from their logjam of guards, opens the option for salary relief to sign Dragic when he hits the market, receive a big to help them where they desperately need a big man, and get a top 10 pick. Not a bad haul for a trade, but pretty lopsided if you ask me.

Lakers get a good scoring PG, remove a big man from their "Stacked" lineup, trade an large expiring contract that insurance will pay roughly 50% off, and swap to a lower end 2015 1st round pick. hmmm not sold at all.

Yeah, one has to be high on Isaiah Thomas to even consider this trade...and it doesn't like that's the case for any of you.

In your breakdown of the assets, you have the Lakers swapping first round picks with the Suns (likely 14th or 18th). Right now LA is dangerously close to giving that pick to the Suns for nothing.

Well now that Phoenix traded for Brendan Wright there's no point in the trade. Unless you want to do a swap of Isiah Thomas and our pick back for Nash.

[Sunsdeuce]

So lets look at this from a phoenix standpoint. Lose IT, and 2015 Suns pick to get Ed Davis, Nash, and 2015 Lakers Pick with no protection. Trade breaks down to IT for ED Davis and Nash with a swap of 2015 picks where LA gets PHO if outside 13 and Pho get the LA pick regardless of where it stands. They remove a player from their logjam of guards, opens the option for salary relief to sign Dragic when he hits the market, receive a big to help them where they desperately need a big man, and get a top 10 pick. Not a bad haul for a trade, but pretty lopsided if you ask me.

Lakers get a good scoring PG, remove a big man from their "Stacked" lineup, trade an large expiring contract that insurance will pay roughly 50% off, and swap to a lower end 2015 1st round pick. hmmm not sold at all.

Yeah, one has to be high on Isaiah Thomas to even consider this trade...and it doesn't like that's the case for any of you.

In your breakdown of the assets, you have the Lakers swapping first round picks with the Suns (likely 14th or 18th). Right now LA is dangerously close to giving that pick to the Suns for nothing.

Well now that Phoenix traded for Brendan Wright there's no point in the trade. Unless you want to do a swap of Isiah Thomas and our pick back for Nash.

So you want IT AND a first for Nash who doesn't even play and still have to pay him. I get it! That's stupid!

[crazyeights]

I pose this with no sense of the Lakers or Laker fans view of Isaiah Thomas and his contract, or what LA's thinking is on the PG position for the future, but still curious as to your reaction to this trade prop...

-Isaiah Thomas
-Suns 2015 1st round pick (top 13 protected)

For

-Steve Nash 9.7 million dollar expiring contract
-Ed Davis
-Lakers remove protection on this year's pick

So lets look at this from a phoenix standpoint. Lose IT, and 2015 Suns pick to get Ed Davis, Nash, and 2015 Lakers Pick with no protection. Trade breaks down to IT for ED Davis and Nash with a swap of 2015 picks where LA gets PHO if outside 13 and Pho get the LA pick regardless of where it stands. They remove a player from their logjam of guards, opens the option for salary relief to sign Dragic when he hits the market, receive a big to help them where they desperately need a big man, and get a top 10 pick. Not a bad haul for a trade, but pretty lopsided if you ask me.

Lakers get a good scoring PG, remove a big man from their "Stacked" lineup, trade an large expiring contract that insurance will pay roughly 50% off, and swap to a lower end 2015 1st round pick. hmmm not sold at all.

Yeah, one has to be high on Isaiah Thomas to even consider this trade...and it doesn't like that's the case for any of you.

In your breakdown of the assets, you have the Lakers swapping first round picks with the Suns (likely 14th or 18th). Right now LA is dangerously close to giving that pick to the Suns for nothing.

I would rather have the opportunity on a top 5 pick, and give up a 6th, than get a middling 14th pick next season.

[Pointgod]

Yeah, one has to be high on Isaiah Thomas to even consider this trade...and it doesn't like that's the case for any of you.

In your breakdown of the assets, you have the Lakers swapping first round picks with the Suns (likely 14th or 18th). Right now LA is dangerously close to giving that pick to the Suns for nothing.

Well now that Phoenix traded for Brendan Wright there's no point in the trade. Unless you want to do a swap of Isiah Thomas and our pick back for Nash.

So you want IT AND a first for Nash who doesn't even play and still have to pay him. I get it! That's stupid!

It's our own first round pick. We'd be doing you a favor by helping you clear capspace. You can replace IT with Jeremy Lin I don't care, but it's a lot less stupid than your original trade proposal.

[Revived]

Congrats on acquiring Zach Randolph...

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[EArl]

Congrats on acquiring Zach Randolph...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Randolph

not sure what you're talking about...

[TyCobb]

Lakers trade Jordan Hill, Wayne Ellington, and 2015 Houston 1st to the Bulls for Taj Gibson, Tony Snell, and 2015 Sacramento 1st.

[Slava]

Lakers trade Jordan Hill, Wayne Ellington, and 2015 Houston 1st to the Bulls for Taj Gibson, Tony Snell, and 2015 Sacramento 1st.

Gibson is way too important for them when they are going all-in for a finals run and he is insurance for Noah's gimpy knees so I don't see them making that trade even with the salary coming off. I think they might be interested in Lin more than Jordan Hill.

[aaron_gray]

I think the Bulls really like Aaron Brooks and Kirk Hinrich.

[crazyeights]

Been seeing a lot of trades for Snell. I get the thinking is the Bulls are looking to upgrade at SF and Snell's not being given a bunch of min, but I'm not super familiar. What do you guys see in him?

[Slava]

Snell is pretty athletic and has a good shooting touch. He's pretty much Wes Johnson at best with worse rebounding and similar issues with ball handling and assertiveness. He was drafted solely because he is 6'7 with a 7'0 wing span and has a smooth shooting touch. Played in a weak conference in college, knocked out in round 1 of the tournament by Harvard and was pretty soft in college.

[LApwnd]

So you want IT AND a first for Nash who doesn't even play and still have to pay him. I get it! That's stupid!

i'm sure insurance will be paying majority of his salary so your owner might be happy wit that fact and he an pocket a few more million this year.

[NATIVE SON]

The Lakers should take a look at trading J.Hill, Nash contract, and Wayne for L.Stephenson and a 2nd or 1st if possible or Bismack. I could see lance possibly starting at the PG with Kobe at SG. Wes at 3 and Booz and Ed at the 4 and 5 respectively. We can still bring Jeremy off the bench at pg(sign him to a reasonable contract in the summer). Platoon R.Kelly and Black as backup bigs and allow them time to develop. Lance could be Metta/Magic for the Lakers,he plays both sides of the court and if honed in could be a star one day. His game has it's deficiencies, mainly decision making issues and consistency.

Charlotte does this deal because they are making a push for the playoffs and Al is injured for the next month so the need a serviceable big, they also need floor spacing which Wayne is good at and he played ball there (UNC) so he would be welcome there.

My issues with this scenario is that the Lakers might actually play themselves outta the draft and could wait until the summer to pull the deal. The problem with that is Lance might turn it around, they've been playing better without him and AL, and alot of the team already has issues with him so we may need to strike while the iron is hot because the price to pull off a deal like that might go up.

Lance/Jeremy/Ronnie
Kobe/Nick/Clark
Wes/Nick/Kelly
Booz/Black/Kelly
Ed/Black/Sacre

Throw the Kitchen Sink at Marc in the off-season...if not then there are actually a few more than servicable centers that are FA's this summer including Chandler/Kanter/Jordan/Lopez

[Penberthy]

The Lakers should take a look at trading J.Hill, Nash contract, and Wayne for L.Stephenson and a 2nd or 1st if possible or Bismack. I could see lance possibly starting at the PG with Kobe at SG. Wes at 3 and Booz and Ed at the 4 and 5 respectively. We can still bring Jeremy off the bench at pg(sign him to a reasonable contract in the summer). Platoon R.Kelly and Black as backup bigs and allow them time to develop. Lance could be Metta/Magic for the Lakers,he plays both sides of the court and if honed in could be a star one day. His game has it's deficiencies, mainly decision making issues and consistency.

Charlotte does this deal because they are making a push for the playoffs and Al is injured for the next month so the need a serviceable big, they also need floor spacing which Wayne is good at and he played ball there (UNC) so he would be welcome there.

My issues with this scenario is that the Lakers might actually play themselves outta the draft and could wait until the summer to pull the deal. The problem with that is Lance might turn it around, they've been playing better without him and AL, and alot of the team already has issues with him so we may need to strike while the iron is hot because the price to pull off a deal like that might go up.

Lance/Jeremy/Ronnie
Kobe/Nick/Clark
Wes/Nick/Kelly
Booz/Black/Kelly
Ed/Black/Sacre

Throw the Kitchen Sink at Marc in the off-season...if not then there are actually a few more than servicable centers that are FA's this summer including Chandler/Kanter/Jordan/Lopez

I like the idea but that trade would GUARANTEE us the pick not lose it. We might even get number 1 with that lineup. Who exactly is going to shoot if Kobe doesn't? Booz? Ok but that's about it, and now that he's back playing against starters he's going to get eaten up. Ed is a Pf or back up C, he can't guard starting Cs, remember how he made DEANDRE JORDAN look like wilt? Anyway it helps the tank so it's good.
Sign a Jackson/Dragic in the offseason and have lance back up the pg and sg, and start at sg when Kobe sits out. Sell him on 6th man of the year and less pressure, and put in contract incentives.

Jackson (32 minutes) Lance (16 min) 31st pick
Kobe (30 min) Lance (18 min) Clark
Wes Nick Kelly
Randle Davis Kelly
Top5C Black Hou1st Sacre

Sets us up nice for a big 2016 sg or sf fa when Kobe's gone.

[aaron_gray]

Snell is pretty athletic and has a good shooting touch. He's pretty much Wes Johnson at best with worse rebounding and similar issues with ball handling and assertiveness. He was drafted solely because he is 6'7 with a 7'0 wing span and has a smooth shooting touch. Played in a weak conference in college, knocked out in round 1 of the tournament by Harvard and was pretty soft in college.

I thought one of the draws for Snell was that he can put it on the floor. He's not going to be breaking any ankles, but he can drive the past the defender just fine.

[Laker_Kid]

so JHill gets injured right when he's about to be tradeable.

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[Ckay]

so JHill gets injured right when he's about to be tradeable.

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Doesn't Hill got the power to vetoed a trade because of the bird rights?

[TyCobb]

Just get Lin out of here. Please?!?

[Pointgod]

The Lakers should take a look at trading J.Hill, Nash contract, and Wayne for L.Stephenson and a 2nd or 1st if possible or Bismack. I could see lance possibly starting at the PG with Kobe at SG. Wes at 3 and Booz and Ed at the 4 and 5 respectively. We can still bring Jeremy off the bench at pg(sign him to a reasonable contract in the summer). Platoon R.Kelly and Black as backup bigs and allow them time to develop. Lance could be Metta/Magic for the Lakers,he plays both sides of the court and if honed in could be a star one day. His game has it's deficiencies, mainly decision making issues and consistency.

Charlotte does this deal because they are making a push for the playoffs and Al is injured for the next month so the need a serviceable big, they also need floor spacing which Wayne is good at and he played ball there (UNC) so he would be welcome there.

My issues with this scenario is that the Lakers might actually play themselves outta the draft and could wait until the summer to pull the deal. The problem with that is Lance might turn it around, they've been playing better without him and AL, and alot of the team already has issues with him so we may need to strike while the iron is hot because the price to pull off a deal like that might go up.

Lance/Jeremy/Ronnie
Kobe/Nick/Clark
Wes/Nick/Kelly
Booz/Black/Kelly
Ed/Black/Sacre

Throw the Kitchen Sink at Marc in the off-season...if not then there are actually a few more than servicable centers that are FA's this summer including Chandler/Kanter/Jordan/Lopez

Like it. Gives us another 2nd round pick and a player that could be very good in the right system. And I don't think Lance jeopardizes the tank at all. With Kobe playing every other game this team just doesn't have the horse power to compete this season, even with Lance.

[crazyeights]

Looks like Hill's knee is sore but fine. No MRI needed. Continue the trade talks as planned.