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Post#1041 » by TyCobb » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:14 am

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TyCobb wrote:Ross gonna get traded somewhere.


Why do you say this? Is this just speculation or is it an actual rumor?


Speculation. He's really fallen out of the rotation in Toronto. They have Greivis and Lou Williams getting all the minutes, as well as DeRozan and Johnson. They really need a big and he becomes their most expendable.
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Post#1042 » by hoops_32 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:20 am

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TyCobb wrote:Ross gonna get traded somewhere.


Why do you say this? Is this just speculation or is it an actual rumor?


Speculation. He's really fallen out of the rotation in Toronto. They have Greivis and Lou Williams getting all the minutes, as well as DeRozan and Johnson. They really need a big and he becomes their most expendable.


If we could get him for Hill that would be great. He is still young and is athletic and a good shooter. Toronto has been struggling lately and Hill is playing well so maybe they'd do it.
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Post#1043 » by Fresh360Waves » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:49 am

hoops_32 wrote:
TyCobb wrote:
hoops_32 wrote:
Why do you say this? Is this just speculation or is it an actual rumor?


Speculation. He's really fallen out of the rotation in Toronto. They have Greivis and Lou Williams getting all the minutes, as well as DeRozan and Johnson. They really need a big and he becomes their most expendable.


If we could get him for Hill that would be great. He is still young and is athletic and a good shooter. Toronto has been struggling lately and Hill is playing well so maybe they'd do it.


I hope the Lakers discuss this type of deal. Ross at SG and Kobe at SF going into next season. Add more youth and athleticism. Hill gives Toronto more depth in the front court as their 4th big man.
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Post#1044 » by NATIVE SON » Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:43 pm

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Post#1045 » by ALL HAIL » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:56 pm

NATIVE SON wrote:http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1354133&p=42413186#p42413186

Despite the presence of the best herb in America, if Larry Sanders was still interested in playing ball and was serious about playing for the Lakers, I'd do the deal.

If Sanders came to LA to be the best, that deal is a steal ... if not, Sanders' 11 mill is dead space.
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Post#1046 » by Pointgod » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:24 pm

I think the Larry Sanders situation is similar to Josh Smith where the team trading him would have to attach a pick in the deal. If they could get a first round pick for him their GM should win executive of the year. I'd gladly take on Sanders if a first round pick was attached. Give Milwaukee instant salary relief and send 2 2nds. Sanders could turn out to be dead weight, but with Kobe's salary expiring and the cap going up the effects could be minor.
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Post#1047 » by Pointgod » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:25 pm

I think the Larry Sanders situation is similar to Josh Smith where the team trading him would have to attach a pick in the deal. If they could get a first round pick for him their GM should win executive of the year. I'd gladly take on Sanders if a first round pick was attached. Give Milwaukee instant salary relief and send 2 2nds. Sanders could turn out to be dead weight, but with Kobe's salary expiring and the cap going up the effects could be minor.
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Post#1048 » by LApwnd » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:45 pm

everybody always think their team can save a player from whatever is ailing them, Sanders is not one of those players. dudes a lost cause.
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Post#1049 » by crazyeights » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:21 pm

Aside from the bar incident, is his only problem that he smokes weed? Lamar was on 2 of 3 strikes way before his time with the Lakers....
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Post#1050 » by LApwnd » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:29 pm

crazyeights wrote:Aside from the bar incident, is his only problem that he smokes weed? Lamar was on 2 of 3 strikes way before his time with the Lakers....


how bout braking or injuring his hand (forgot which) from fighting his teammate in the locker room and Lamar kept up his career like averages even during his clip days and weed issue. Sanders has gone to pieces since getting the big contract and his one semi decent season.
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Post#1051 » by Slava » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:30 pm

Odom kind of got on track with Miami before he ended up here. Taking on Sanders might mean taking on OJ Mayo's contract and if he doesn't work out, that's close to $20 million in dead salary for the next 4 seasons. In short, a calamity.
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Post#1052 » by crazyeights » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:38 pm

I'm pretty sure his contract would be voided if he continues to have a drug problem.
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Post#1053 » by Slava » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:44 pm

crazyeights wrote:I'm pretty sure his contract would be voided if he continues to have a drug problem.


There could be 29 other teams arguing that we did a trade despite knowing the risks in the first place.
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Post#1054 » by crazyeights » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:47 pm

...pretty sure that's now how the CBA works.
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Post#1055 » by crazyeights » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:57 pm

Looking at Larry Coon's FAQ, it appears that he might be treated for something beyond marijuana...but it's hard to say as all the reports I've seen about Saunders have been pretty vague.
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Post#1056 » by crazyeights » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:01 pm

In other news, Darius Soriano did an interesting write-up on the intricacies of our three main trade assets: Hill, Lin, and Davis.

A large section of Lakers’ fans are only concerned about two things: how many losses the team has and how can they attain more of them. We have been over this multiple times, but it bears repeating — the more losses the team has, the better chance they have of keeping their draft pick which, in turn, offers a better chance of turning that asset into a cornerstone player who can help catapult the team back into contention sooner.

One way to get to more losses is to make trades that strip the team of some of their better players. The benefit of such deals would go beyond worsening the team — and increasing the odds of the aforementioned draft pick — they would also, hopefully, bring in even more assets that could help accelerate the current rebuild. Flip rotation player X for a draft pick; unload player Y for a young player on a rookie scale contract, is how this logic goes.

Whether or not you agree with the rooting for losses part of this story, the concept of dealing players for assets who can better help in the future is sound and a tried and true way of doing business in this league. This season, it has already started. The Denver Nuggets traded Timofey Mozgov to the Cavs for two future first round draft picks. The Celtics have been very active, first trading Rajon Rondo to the Mavs for draft picks and then off-loading players received in that deal (and others) to the Suns and Clippers for even more picks.

Again, this is not new. The question Lakers’ fans have, however, is when will they join the party? I mean, the Lakers may be a bad team, but they have some useful players who other teams might want, right? Right? Honestly, I’m not so sure.

http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2015/01/20/assessing-the-lakers-trade-assets/
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Post#1057 » by LApwnd » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:23 pm

by the time mgmt. joins in the race to get picks for players there'll be nothing left but late 2nds 5yrs from now lol
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Post#1058 » by aaron_gray » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:12 am

This team has acquired enough 2nd round talent that a 2nd 5 years from now will be more useful than a 2nd round pick this draft.
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Post#1059 » by aaron_gray » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:32 am

Man I wish there was a Jordan Hill section on the Larry Coon fact site.

I am correct in the understanding that Hill's 2nd season is a team option right? So does that 2nd season become guaranteed if Hill is traded, because if that's the case he should have no qualms about joining another team before the deadline. He sure isn't getting 9 mil in free agency. Jordan Hill has shown a whole new side to his offense this year, and his minutes will decrease along with his trade value next year when Randle is back in the fold.
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Post#1060 » by TyCobb » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:53 pm

He becomes a free agent at the end of the season if he agrees to a trade.
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