Official Transaction Ideas thread

[The_Trade_Seer]

^ I agree ... I was just playing off of what JVG said and seeing if Lakers fans would be up for that trade or if the Lebron hatred was so deep they would turn down such a trade if it presented itself.

[The_Trade_Seer]

Odom cannot come close to matching the sentimental feelings that PHX fans hold for Nash. In that regard Odom is worth nothing compared to Nash.

You're right about that, but if he is going to bolt and leave the Suns with nothing, they could certainly do worse than Odom, yet I do not think the Lakers should trade Odom for Nash straight up.

Doesn't matter what we'd do. Miami wouldn't.

I agree ... I was just playing off of what JVG said and seeing if Lakers fans would be up for that trade or if the Lebron hatred was so deep they would turn down such a trade if it presented itself.

I seriously doubt trading LeBron has even come across their minds. And if he were on the trading block and we attempted to acquire him it would have to involve Gasol. lol at the thought of Miami trading LeBron. Just isn't going to happen.

I'm not sure they would want Gasol. They would certainly want Bynum more than Gasol and Wade may even push for Odom above Gasol as they already have Bosh and Odom is much more versatile than Gasol ... he wouldn't mind coming off the bench behind Bynum and Bosh while Gasol may chafe at such an idea.

I really do think Riley has thought of trading Wade and he is the one guy I would desperately try to move if I was the Heat. He's 3 years older than Bosh and LBJ and plays a style that will see him break down sooner as well. I've maintained since the beginning of the season that a Wade for Nene, Felton and JR Smith trade would set the Heat up as a dynasty. Wade's value should be super high right now coming off a monster playoffs and great Finals and the Heat should easily be able to package Wade with the mistake contract of Mike Miller, Z and House for Nene, JR Smith and Felton.

I hope this doesn't happen as it would make the Heat almost unbeatable but Riley would be smart to pull the trigger on that trade.

[hoops_32]

This offseason we need to address our glaring need at PG. We need a PG that can create his own shot, get to the rim, shoot the three, and play defense. It is going to be hard to acquire one since we don't really have many trade chips as I believe we will keep our three big rotation of Gasol,Bynum and Odom as it is our advantage over every single team in the league. The only attractive pices we have will be Shannon Brown, Devin Ebanks, Derrick Caracter,four 2nd round picks this year and future 1st round picks. That being said there are four players that we should consider getting.

1. Toney Douglas: He was a former 1st round pick of ours that we traded to the Knicks. He would be perfect now that Mike Brown is our coach since he is very good defensively and can drive and shoot as well.
2. Jerryd Bayless: He is only 22 years old and is similar to Monta Ellis who many people want and who we are rumored to be interested in. He would appear to be the odd man out if Toronto drafts Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight as either of them would be their PG long term. He put up big numbers at the end of last seasons when he was given minutes.
3.Reggie Jackson: We would have to trade up into the 1st round to get him but I believe he could be the steal of the draft. He is very athletic, a good shooter, and has the potential to be great defensively as he has a 7ft wingspan. He reminds me of Russell Westbrook.
4. Nolan Smith: He looks like an early 2nd round pick and is used to winning from playing at Duke for 4 years. He is a good defender and shooter and kept them playing at a high level when projected number one pick Kyrie Irving was injured.

Anyone of these four would be a great addition to our core of Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, Odom, and Artest and would give us a great chance to not only get back to the finals but more importantly win it.

[Jajwanda]

Bayless frightens me. He's one of the legitimate scorers in this league that simply needs to play next to a PG to be most effective (although he was good at the end of this year).

He's a legitimate high-level scorer of which there are very few for the price we'd pay for him. I'd gladly trade a future 1st for him after the draft, plug him in next to Derek Fisher off the bench and go with that duo. Bench scoring solved. No comparison between him and Shannon Brown.

[Jetset]

This offseason we need to address our glaring need at PG. We need a PG that can create his own shot, get to the rim, shoot the three, and play defense. It is going to be hard to acquire one since we don't really have many trade chips as I believe we will keep our three big rotation of Gasol,Bynum and Odom as it is our advantage over every single team in the league. The only attractive pices we have will be Shannon Brown, Devin Ebanks, Derrick Caracter,four 2nd round picks this year and future 1st round picks. That being said there are four players that we should consider getting.

1. Toney Douglas: He was a former 1st round pick of ours that we traded to the Knicks. He would be perfect now that Mike Brown is our coach since he is very good defensively and can drive and shoot as well.
2. Jerryd Bayless: He is only 22 years old and is similar to Monta Ellis who many people want and who we are rumored to be interested in. He would appear to be the odd man out if Toronto drafts Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight as either of them would be their PG long term. He put up big numbers at the end of last seasons when he was given minutes.
3.Reggie Jackson: We would have to trade up into the 1st round to get him but I believe he could be the steal of the draft. He is very athletic, a good shooter, and has the potential to be great defensively as he has a 7ft wingspan. He reminds me of Russell Westbrook.
4. Nolan Smith: He looks like an early 2nd round pick and is used to winning from playing at Duke for 4 years. He is a good defender and shooter and kept them playing at a high level when projected number one pick Kyrie Irving was injured.

Anyone of these four would be a great addition to our core of Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, Odom, and Artest and would give us a great chance to not only get back to the finals but more importantly win it.

1. I wouldn't be against it.
2. No Thanks.
3. Crazy how both of our assessments of Jackson are exactly the same isn't it?
4. Nolan was an average defender in college. Doesn't have nearly enough speed to keep up defensively in the NBA so he'll have to do his best with using craftiness and guile to defend players.

The player with the highest ceiling is RJ, and I hope we do whatever is necessary to draft him. Even though it'll make Mitch's previous deal of trading away our original 1st look foolish.

[Jajwanda]

I'm not sure how you can say Nolan was average in college, that's not nearly the case and Bayless has tremendous potential. Tremendous. If we're considering Ellis why not him, he's looked more competent at PG.

[Jetset]

I said Nolan was an average defender, not an average all around player. Try reading the post again. I'm just telling you what I saw as a Blue Devil fan watching all of their games this past season. Nolan doesn't have good burst so he'll have a hard time defending the freak athletes of the NBA. His speed is average at best. He did a good enough job in college, but I wouldn't call him a "good" defender. Average suits him more.


And do you believe everything you hear? Because I certainly don't. Some dumb article lists potential landing spots for Monta, it happens to have the Lakers on it and all of a sudden people are ready to begin picturing Monta in the purple & gold. Monta clearly doesn't fit well with this team, so why people are hoping for him is blasphemous.

[Jajwanda]

I thought Nolan was a little better than that and I realize he's nothing exceptional (I think he'll be a 6/10 perhaps 7/10 defender if the NBA is Fisher is say a 2-3, Blake a 4, Rondo a 9).

I don't believe everything I hear however the Lakers had Shannon Brown as their backup SG the whole year. I think if there is any interest in having a quick penetrating player that can play as Kobe's backup, switch onto tough 1s to help Fisher on the bench, and perhaps finish games at the 2 Bayless is just as good of an option as Monta Ellis considering cost.

I can envision:

PG- Fisher
SG- Bayless
SF- Barnes

working far better than:

PG- Blake
SG- Brown
SF- Barnes

Now you've got a guy you can trust in the late shot-clock in Bayless and the ability to switch Bayless onto tough PGs in case Fisher is struggling.

[hoops_32]

Bayless would be a starter not a bench player as we need someone in the starting lineup that can create their own shot other than Kobe.

[Jajwanda]

Why would he be a starter when he'd be more effective finishing with Kobe and coming off the bench? The backups have Lamar and that's it.

Get someone other than Bayless to do that.

[Jetset]

If you get Bayless the person who you said has "tremendous" potential then why would sit him on the bench and have Fisher start over him? Why have Fisher starting at all?

[Jajwanda]

Fisher isn't starting. Fisher is playing next to Bayless because Bayless-Fisher can switch against some matchups on defense. Blake-Bayless can't do that.

[Jetset]

**** Blake I want him traded. Blake/Odom/46th for Felton/Birdman/future pick.


Official Transaction Ideas Thread

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[hoops_32]

I'd do that deal if it were Harrington and their 1st round pick this year.

[Jajwanda]

Let's rehab Blake's value first and foremost. We might be able to pull off Jarret Jack or someone like that if we can get him starting, benefiting from playing off of the starting unit.

[Jetset]

I'm not willing to rehab anything about Blake. If you can trade him and another piece for Felton and serviceable backup big then you do it. But it's unfortunate that Odom becomes a casualty.

I'd do that deal if it were Harrington and their 1st round pick this year.

I could see if we needed a PG then we could draft RJ with it. But we wouldn't and there are no worthwhile prospects with that 22nd pick that worth guaranteed money, plus I want no part of Harrington's contract.

[Jajwanda]

Marshon Brooks could be worth it. Now you're going over the top. You'd rather get rid of Odom just to get rid of Blake and get a decent PG. You're not willing, well that's great but that just means we have to scramble to get a backup PF near Odom's caliber. I'd rather Blake put up decent numbers and we trade him mid-year then have to shoot ourselves in the foot.

After all is said and done the easiest possibilities to improve the roster right now appear to be:

41+cash(3m)
46+cash(3m)

Arguably the cheapest ways (you could spend 3m per year on an overpaid mediocre veteran and pay double for the tax) to improve the roster are through our picks. At a maximum of 6m we can acquire two young guys that can improve the roster instead of making these elaborate trades. I think that's how Mitch will look at it too.

How high do you think we can go with that combo?

[Jetset]

Even though I didn't say it in my previous post, I'm pretty sure that the post before that one had Denver sending us a future pick. Come on bro, you really do need to read Rawjwanda. And Brooks is quickly becoming the most overrated prospect in this years draft. The amount of people that have hopped on this kid's nuts just from watching Youtube videos is amazing. You're discrediting that he played in an inferior division and was never awarded any accolades during his time at Providence. Keith Benson played an inferior division in the Summit League but at least he was named DYOP and MVP. And with Blake well sometimes you have to admit you've made a mistake. Because if you don't you'll end up like Al Davis. Looking like the Crypt Keeper with a team full of unmovable regrets. Which is what I think Blake is unless someone like Odom is packaged with him.

If we aren't making moves to get Felton or something along those lines or trading up into the 1st round, then we should just stand pat and draft Benson, Liggins, Diot and Lauvergne. That's about the best we're going to do if no moves are made.

[Jajwanda]

I said Brooks might be worth it and that's because he's played well against top competition before, has good scoring instincts, and unlike Keith Benson seems to be focused. We've seen plenty of players from inferior competition drafted in the first. NFL overpaid players have zero in common with NBA guaranteed contracts. There is little flexibility in the NBA.

Why we can't trade up to get better if those deals become available is beyond me. Benson, Liggins, Diot, and Lauvergne are fine if those are the guys, but I know if it comes down to cash I'm trading up for better. There's no reason not to unless Buss wants to save cash for his China escapades. It's better than spending money on a veteran.

[Jetset]

What top competition has Brooks played against before? And we certainly have but I think Brooks is worth a 2nd rounder not a 1st like you think.

If we aren't making moves to get Felton or something along those lines or trading up into the 1st round, then we should just stand pat and draft Benson, Liggins, Diot and Lauvergne. That's about the best we're going to do if no moves are made.

I clearly say "IF" no moves are made and we stand pat. I didn't say we cannot make any moves so we should stand pat. Please show me where I say that we cannot make any moves. Because obviously I'm hoping we do, I've been campaigning for Reggie for the longest.