Official Transaction Ideas thread

The_Trade_Seer · Post #1161 » by **The_Trade_Seer** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:07 pm

Doormatt wrote:Honestly, I'd prefer Jameer to Felton. Nelson is a better 3 point shooter, and they are about equal as defenders/playmakers, although I think Nelson is more consistent overall. plus with an Odom for Nelson/Anderson swap, you're getting another 3 point shooter who is actually a comparable rebounder. I don't think odoms defense is anything special, so we aren't losing much in that department.

I really think that the answer to this teams problem is shooting, specifically the 3. We need to give Kobe/Pau/Bynum more space to operate.

Felton is much, much better than Jameer Nelson. If you're saying you'd rather have a Nelson/Anderson combo than just Felton I can understand that a bit better as Ryan Anderson is a rare big that can shoot the lights out and works hard, but please don't think Nelson is better than Felton straight up.

fongie24 · Post #1162 » by **fongie24** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:33 pm

AI-in-LA wrote:
Felton is much, much better than Jameer Nelson. If you're saying you'd rather have a Nelson/Anderson combo than just Felton I can understand that a bit better as Ryan Anderson is a rare big that can shoot the lights out and works hard, but please don't think Nelson is better than Felton straight up.

+1

Nelson and Anderson might be the better combo, but if we are doing direct comparison I'd take Felton over Nelson.

If we are comparing proposed deals, I think it was Nelson/Anderson or Felton/Birdman for Odom or Odom/Blake? Thats a tough one. Anderson is a great back up center but how much time would he actually get behind Bynum and Gasol? I feel his talents would almost be going to waste unless we play Gasol a lot more at PF and less at C which would open up more minutes for him, but I dont really see that happening. Plus we would have a gaping hole at back up PF. Anderson on the other hand, would fill Lamar's spot on the bench, is a hustler and a good shooter. It's tough to choose which offer would be better, each has its pros and cons.

[RCG] · Post #1163 » by **[RCG]** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:17 pm

How would you guys feel about a trade of:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3rujt2g
Bynum for Love, Pekovic, Flynn, Tolliver?

Fisher/Blake/Flynn
Bryant/Brown
Artest/Barnes
Love/Odom/Tolliver
Gasol/Pekovic/Tolliver
&
Rubio/Ridnour
Johnson/Webster
Beasley/Webster
D.Williams/Randolph
Bynum/Milicic

Love is a young, can hit the 3, rebounding machine, great passer that fits the triangle perfectly. Pekovic fits well as a big body down low. Tolliver is another PF/C who can step out and hit the 3, good character guy. Flynn is a young PG prospect who would be well-served learning from Fisher/Blake. I understand if it is a no because you like Bynum more but how is it value-wise?

Gek · Post #1164 » by **Gek** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:26 pm

How about Bynum for Love and Rubio, you know, that way Rubio actually comes to the states.

chefy · Post #1165 » by **chefy** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:46 pm

ohh hell yea...not

bynum + mle pg > love + flyn + trash

EnigmaticProblem · Post #1166 » by **EnigmaticProblem** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:52 pm

To me, Flynn isn't worth anything, until he gets another successful season under his belt-- Last year, he was the worst player in the NBA.

Plus, recoveries from hip injuries are. . . Suspect.

BEazy · Post #1167 » by **BEazy** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:59 pm

We are running the triangle again? Since when is Mike Brown Phil Jackson? I thought I specifically heard that the Lakers will NOT be running the triangle anymore.

I say trade Bynum/Odom for Howard and J.J. Redick. Since Mike Brown wants to do this whole David Robinson and Tim Duncan twin tower style, I say the Lakers do this trade.

Dwight Howard = David Robinson.
Pau Gasol = Tim Duncan.

If you ask me getting Dwight would make too much sense especially with the coaching style we're gonna focus on.

BEazy · Post #1168 » by **BEazy** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:06 pm

Andrew Bynum/Odom for Dwight Howard and J.J. Redick.

Problem sovled no more injury prone center, no more three point shooting trouble (J.J. Redick is a 39% career three point shooter).

Most importantly fits the coaching style of Mike Brown. If Brown wants to do this David Robinson/Tim Duncan combo then he'll have to pair up Dwight and Pau together.

Dwight Howard = David Robinson
Pau Gasol = Tim Duncan

hoops_32 · Post #1169 » by **hoops_32** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:16 pm

Orlando would probably want to deal a bad contract along with Dwight. I'd expand the deal and trade Bynum,Odom,Walton, and Blake and draft picks for Howard, Reddick and Turkoglu. Then use our TPE to get Gibson or Sessions.

Gibson or Sessions/Fisher
Bryant/Reddick
Artest/Barnes
Gasol/Turkoglu
Howard

LApwnd · Post #1170 » by **LApwnd** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:55 pm

I think value is there, save some money as well just dont wnat to see Pau get beat up again playing C full-time....RCG I thought you guys dont like glass-knee Bynum?

LApwnd · Post #1171 » by **LApwnd** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:38 pm

Mike Redd, who thinks this guy can still contribute? I say bring him on for vet min, at his finest he was on par with the likes of Ray Allen with his stroke (actually he's the reason Milw let go of Ray). IMO at his best now, a solid pick and pop guy and a spot up shooter, ala Terry. At his worse Shannon Brown lol.

fongie24 · Post #1172 » by **fongie24** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:44 pm

LApwnd wrote:Mike Redd, who thinks this guy can still contribute? I say bring him on for vet min, at his finest he was on par with the likes of Ray Allen with his stroke (actually he's the reason Milw let go of Ray). IMO at his best now, a solid pick and pop guy and a spot up shooter, ala Terry. At his worse Shannon Brown lol.

It would definitely be a risk.. He doesn't really help our youth movement, but if he can show that he can still play and is willing to come cheap then he might be worth a risk, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. The only reason why I'd consider is because he is/was such a good shooter and we desperately need that.

fongie24 · Post #1173 » by **fongie24** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:49 pm

I wouldn't trade Bynum for anyone not named Dwight Howard. He is just too valuable to the team, Gasol at C full time is a big no-no.

chefy · Post #1174 » by **chefy** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:56 pm

LApwnd wrote:Mike Redd, who thinks this guy can still contribute? I say bring him on for vet min, at his finest he was on par with the likes of Ray Allen with his stroke (actually he's the reason Milw let go of Ray). IMO at his best now, a solid pick and pop guy and a spot up shooter, ala Terry. At his worse Shannon Brown lol.

+1 for Redd

I expect him to sign to a playoff/contender team probably with the Heat or Bulls. IMO Redd would be a big contributor whatever playoff team he decided to go to.

EnigmaticProblem · Post #1175 » by **EnigmaticProblem** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:32 am

I think Devin Harris is a viable option for the point guard position. I mean, the consensus is, Brandon Knight will be going to Utah, which makes Devin Harris expendable, considering their pseudo youth movement.

Devin Harris is only 28, and he's one of the fastest guards in the league-- He's also one of the best defenders in the league, at the point guard position. I have absolutely no idea what the asking price would be, but he'd look great in a Lakers jersey.

I feel like like Lamar Odom is worth much more than any realistic option, at the point guard position-- By default, Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol would also be worth too much. Hmmm. . .

The_Trade_Seer · Post #1176 » by **The_Trade_Seer** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:10 am

^ I'm not a Devin fan ... but, if you want him, here are some trades that would work:

Bynum, Blake and Walton for Devin and Al Jefferson

Lamar and Blake for Devin, #12 pick and the exp. contract of Watson or Elson

Artest and Blake for Devin and Raja Bell

patrol345 · Post #1177 » by **patrol345** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:30 am

Odom, brown, character, your 2 second rounders this year, and 2 future first for felton, a resigned kmart, birdman, and the melo tpe. Which would have to be sent to yall in a seperate trade I think.

tugs · Post #1178 » by **tugs** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:25 am

AI-in-LA wrote:^ I'm not a Devin fan ... but, if you want him, here are some trades that would work:

Bynum, Blake and Walton for Devin and Al Jefferson

Lamar and Blake for Devin, #12 pick and the exp. contract of Watson or Elson

Artest and Blake for Devin and Raja Bell

1st scenario:
no way dude. Gasol and Jefferson? awful D. just awful. again no true C.

2nd:
meh... still want LO here.

3rd:
I guess we can risk that wing spot. Sign a back up wing and let Barnes start.

BTW, via wiretap. Thought Rubio and Minny were already settled? Now he's negotiating a buyout?

Would you risk having Rubio in the line-up?

NCHeels2008 · Post #1179 » by **NCHeels2008** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:06 am

You read my mind on Devin Harris I was about to post that....

2 part deal

Luke Walton, Steve Blake, 2 2sts for Devin Harris

TPE for Raja Bell

assuming they don't want Bell's deal anymore, they turn Harris into 2 late first's; get the perfect mentor for Knight in Blake, you could also add one of the prospects (Ebanks/Carachter) if Utah was interested.

tugs · Post #1180 » by **tugs** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:16 am

NCHeels2008 wrote:You read my mind on Devin Harris I was about to post that....

2 part deal

Luke Walton, Steve Blake, 2 2sts for Devin Harris

TPE for Raja Bell

assuming they don't want Bell's deal anymore, they turn Harris into 2 late first's; get the perfect mentor for Knight in Blake, you could also add one of the prospects (Ebanks/Carachter) if Utah was interested.

this.