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Who do the Lakers draft on June 22nd with the 2nd overall pick?

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Lonzo Ball
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

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Post#1163 » by XXBKXX » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:01 am

TyCobb wrote:All of these reports is showing the intelligence of Pelinka. Dude is dictating this entire draft from the #2 spot. No way Magic is capable of politicin' like this, so I'm giving Rob credit here. Dude is killin' it right now.

I can't wait to see the noise he creates during FA season.

True... From the 2 spot... Pelinka has created an environment that has two picks turning down work outs with the number one team (Celtics) .... While At that same time begging Lakers for attention...

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1164 » by TyCobb » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:28 am

Fultz has arguably the worst cardio out of Ball, Jackson, and Fox. Wonder if he can even finish the workout.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1165 » by XXBKXX » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:02 am

So here's my theories... It's a doozy but plausible .. first, it is VERY odd to me that Philly isn't working out top tier talents yet.... We are already moving to our second rounds with guys... DLO to Philly for their 3rd pick makes sense to me from what Im seeing and hearing... and boy do I hope that this is true. Perhaps Philly is threatening to work out other players to get magic to throw in something more (#28 or future pick)....

So Why the promise to JJ? If true, then the only thing that comes to mind is that, given the first scenario of trading DSlo for the 3rd pick.. Lakers may just value JJ above all others. Maybe Lakers made the trade offer to Philly on the condition that JJ is available. Their was rumors that Celts and Fultz work out didn't go too well.. Maybe Pelinka is protecting his offer by telling JJ that if he's available, he will be paired up on the Lakers with Ingram and another top 3 pick.. JJ therefore cancels the Boston work out.. In this case, Lakers will be happy to draft either one of Fultz or Zo. Though they may prefer Lonzo. If Celts draft JJ though, not sure Lakers are AS excited of the pairing of Lonzo and Fultz in the back court.... Maybe they're not AS excited as we thought they were to pair two Point Guards together.. hence the Dlo trade? I know I wasnt originally thrilled at the idea.. Honestly to me, Lonzo, JJ and Ingram look better overall to me than Lonzo Fultz Ingram. I've never been high on Fultz...

Perhaps Magic was serious about having a Plan A and Plan B before the lotto... Where Plan B was to trade their way into the lotto if they lost their pick.. Plan A is to execute Plan B while keeping their existing pick?. If theres a draft class that you want multiple picks in... its this one.. And like Ive said before... Lonzo is a solid glue piece.. but i dont think he's THE piece.. With that said, if we draft JJ, then I'm all in for Zo for the other pick. Already drueling about transition fast breaks with Zo in the middle and JJ and Ingram on the wings

If we are to trade Dlo, now is the time to do it. If he sucks next year, which is very possible, he will essentially lose all trade value.. No one will be looking to trade legit assets for him based on potential next year.. This is the year you decide to keep or trade him.. And I say if we can get any pick in the top 8 we trade him in a heart beat..

Anyways, that's my attempt at reading the tea leaves.. Trade is conditional only if JJ is available.. otherwise all bets are off.. which may be why Philly isn't desperate to work out players.. and why JJ cancelled on Celts.. Sounds to good to be true... But it sure is fun to have hope and excitement when thinking about the Lakers again...

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1166 » by TheRealKaboom » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:28 am

XXBKXX wrote:So here's my theories... It's a doozy but plausible .. first, it is VERY odd to me that Philly isn't working out top tier talents yet.... We are already moving to our second rounds with guys... DLO to Philly for their 3rd pick makes sense to me from what Im seeing and hearing... and boy do I hope that this is true. Perhaps Philly is threatening to work out other players to get magic to throw in something more (#28 or future pick)....

So Why the promise to JJ? If true, then the only thing that comes to mind is that, given the first scenario of trading DSlo for the 3rd pick.. Lakers may just value JJ above all others. Maybe Lakers made the trade offer to Philly on the condition that JJ is available. Their was rumors that Celts and Fultz work out didn't go too well.. Maybe Pelinka is protecting his offer by telling JJ that if he's available, he will be paired up on the Lakers with Ingram and another top 3 pick.. JJ therefore cancels the Boston work out.. In this case, Lakers will be happy to draft either one of Fultz or Zo. Though they may prefer Lonzo. If Celts draft JJ though, not sure Lakers are AS excited of the pairing of Lonzo and Fultz in the back court.... Maybe they're not AS excited as we thought they were to pair two Point Guards together.. hence the Dlo trade? I know I wasnt originally thrilled at the idea.. Honestly to me, Lonzo, JJ and Ingram look better overall to me than Lonzo Fultz Ingram. I've never been high on Fultz...

Perhaps Magic was serious about having a Plan A and Plan B before the lotto... Where Plan B was to trade their way into the lotto if they lost their pick.. Plan A is to execute Plan B while keeping their existing pick?. If theres a draft class that you want multiple picks in... its this one.. And like Ive said before... Lonzo is a solid glue piece.. but i dont think he's THE piece.. With that said, if we draft JJ, then I'm all in for Zo for the other pick. Already drueling about transition fast breaks with Zo in the middle and JJ and Ingram on the wings

If we are to trade Dlo, now is the time to do it. If he sucks next year, which is very possible, he will essentially lose all trade value.. No one will be looking to trade legit assets for him based on potential next year.. This is the year you decide to keep or trade him.. And I say if we can get any pick in the top 8 we trade him in a heart beat..

Anyways, that's my attempt at reading the tea leaves.. Trade is conditional only if JJ is available.. otherwise all bets are off.. which may be why Philly isn't desperate to work out players.. and why JJ cancelled on Celts.. Sounds to good to be true... But it sure is fun to have hope and excitement when thinking about the Lakers again...

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1167 » by AmusingFiddle » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:24 am

I am pretty confident it's Ball at #2 and we r possibly looking at trading with Phoenix for Russell and 28. JC might go to Detroit for 12. I have a hunch Detroit don't want to pay KCP. He will command more than JC.


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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1168 » by LakersSoul » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:45 am

TheRealKaboom wrote:
XXBKXX wrote:So here's my theories... It's a doozy but plausible .. first, it is VERY odd to me that Philly isn't working out top tier talents yet.... We are already moving to our second rounds with guys... DLO to Philly for their 3rd pick makes sense to me from what Im seeing and hearing... and boy do I hope that this is true. Perhaps Philly is threatening to work out other players to get magic to throw in something more (#28 or future pick)....

So Why the promise to JJ? If true, then the only thing that comes to mind is that, given the first scenario of trading DSlo for the 3rd pick.. Lakers may just value JJ above all others. Maybe Lakers made the trade offer to Philly on the condition that JJ is available. Their was rumors that Celts and Fultz work out didn't go too well.. Maybe Pelinka is protecting his offer by telling JJ that if he's available, he will be paired up on the Lakers with Ingram and another top 3 pick.. JJ therefore cancels the Boston work out.. In this case, Lakers will be happy to draft either one of Fultz or Zo. Though they may prefer Lonzo. If Celts draft JJ though, not sure Lakers are AS excited of the pairing of Lonzo and Fultz in the back court.... Maybe they're not AS excited as we thought they were to pair two Point Guards together.. hence the Dlo trade? I know I wasnt originally thrilled at the idea.. Honestly to me, Lonzo, JJ and Ingram look better overall to me than Lonzo Fultz Ingram. I've never been high on Fultz...

Perhaps Magic was serious about having a Plan A and Plan B before the lotto... Where Plan B was to trade their way into the lotto if they lost their pick.. Plan A is to execute Plan B while keeping their existing pick?. If theres a draft class that you want multiple picks in... its this one.. And like Ive said before... Lonzo is a solid glue piece.. but i dont think he's THE piece.. With that said, if we draft JJ, then I'm all in for Zo for the other pick. Already drueling about transition fast breaks with Zo in the middle and JJ and Ingram on the wings

If we are to trade Dlo, now is the time to do it. If he sucks next year, which is very possible, he will essentially lose all trade value.. No one will be looking to trade legit assets for him based on potential next year.. This is the year you decide to keep or trade him.. And I say if we can get any pick in the top 8 we trade him in a heart beat..

Anyways, that's my attempt at reading the tea leaves.. Trade is conditional only if JJ is available.. otherwise all bets are off.. which may be why Philly isn't desperate to work out players.. and why JJ cancelled on Celts.. Sounds to good to be true... But it sure is fun to have hope and excitement when thinking about the Lakers again...

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There is ZERO change that we trade Dlo for just the #3 pick. Why would we give away the best player on the team for the #3 pick that could be a bust? As for throwing in the #28, Magic isnt giving away the team and picks?

If we trade Dlo, we are getting more than just the #3 back. It has to be a minimum 2 first round picks and possibly swaping of other players on top. The Lakers FO doesnt mind trading Clarkson but if we are trading one of the foundation for the Lakers, we better be getting some sweet deal.

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1169 » by AmusingFiddle » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:10 am

I believe there is often speculation on possible DLo trades due to his lack of maturity.

No one questions his on court vision and work ethic. He also lacks the ability to command respect from his teammates and lead by example.


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Post#1170 » by Rafer24 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:17 am

Russell is the best player on this team, and we should give him another year under Luke.

But, if trading Russell can give us the combination of Ball & Jackson, i would seriously consider it.
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Post#1171 » by loveshaq786 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:23 am

LakersSoul wrote:
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XXBKXX wrote:So here's my theories... It's a doozy but plausible .. first, it is VERY odd to me that Philly isn't working out top tier talents yet.... We are already moving to our second rounds with guys... DLO to Philly for their 3rd pick makes sense to me from what Im seeing and hearing... and boy do I hope that this is true. Perhaps Philly is threatening to work out other players to get magic to throw in something more (#28 or future pick)....

So Why the promise to JJ? If true, then the only thing that comes to mind is that, given the first scenario of trading DSlo for the 3rd pick.. Lakers may just value JJ above all others. Maybe Lakers made the trade offer to Philly on the condition that JJ is available. Their was rumors that Celts and Fultz work out didn't go too well.. Maybe Pelinka is protecting his offer by telling JJ that if he's available, he will be paired up on the Lakers with Ingram and another top 3 pick.. JJ therefore cancels the Boston work out.. In this case, Lakers will be happy to draft either one of Fultz or Zo. Though they may prefer Lonzo. If Celts draft JJ though, not sure Lakers are AS excited of the pairing of Lonzo and Fultz in the back court.... Maybe they're not AS excited as we thought they were to pair two Point Guards together.. hence the Dlo trade? I know I wasnt originally thrilled at the idea.. Honestly to me, Lonzo, JJ and Ingram look better overall to me than Lonzo Fultz Ingram. I've never been high on Fultz...

Perhaps Magic was serious about having a Plan A and Plan B before the lotto... Where Plan B was to trade their way into the lotto if they lost their pick.. Plan A is to execute Plan B while keeping their existing pick?. If theres a draft class that you want multiple picks in... its this one.. And like Ive said before... Lonzo is a solid glue piece.. but i dont think he's THE piece.. With that said, if we draft JJ, then I'm all in for Zo for the other pick. Already drueling about transition fast breaks with Zo in the middle and JJ and Ingram on the wings

If we are to trade Dlo, now is the time to do it. If he sucks next year, which is very possible, he will essentially lose all trade value.. No one will be looking to trade legit assets for him based on potential next year.. This is the year you decide to keep or trade him.. And I say if we can get any pick in the top 8 we trade him in a heart beat..

Anyways, that's my attempt at reading the tea leaves.. Trade is conditional only if JJ is available.. otherwise all bets are off.. which may be why Philly isn't desperate to work out players.. and why JJ cancelled on Celts.. Sounds to good to be true... But it sure is fun to have hope and excitement when thinking about the Lakers again...

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There is ZERO change that we trade Dlo for just the #3 pick. Why would we give away the best player on the team for the #3 pick that could be a bust? As for throwing in the #28, Magic isnt giving away the team and picks?

If we trade Dlo, we are getting more than just the #3 back. It has to be a minimum 2 first round picks and possibly swaping of other players on top. The Lakers FO doesnt mind trading Clarkson but if we are trading one of the foundation for the Lakers, we better be getting some sweet deal.


Thank you. I don't understand our fans' assessment of players' value makes any sense. It's freaking ridiculous. Dlo has way more value than the crap I see posted here. I'm down to trade him too but not for peanuts.
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Post#1172 » by loveshaq786 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:29 am

Dlo, clarkson, Randle ... for #3, luwawa, dario saric
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Post#1173 » by Mirjalovic » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:44 am

loveshaq786 wrote:Dlo, clarkson, Randle ... for #3, luwawa, dario saric


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shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1174 » by JHFVF07 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:07 pm

Lonzo will enter the league a worst player than Russell, even if you think he has more upside. It will be a setback in our rebuild plan, that will make us a worst team when the season starts, what would make us less valuable to those FAs on 2018 FA.
If you ask my opinion, I think Russell will be close to an allstar next year, and Im not trading him for the #3.
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Post#1175 » by LakersSoul » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:30 pm

Local kid or not, the FO better pick the BPA right now whether that is Ball or Jackson or whoever. Who knows what will happen during the summer of 2018 or beyond. We get the best player available and if PG comes then we can make the necessary trades to worry about fit and massaging the roster to setup the best team to get to the championship.

In the two mock drafts below updated June 13, they have us picking #2 and #28:

A. Draft Express:
1. Ball
2. Tyler Lydon
(Bradley #31, Jordan Bell #34 and Frank Jackson #36)

B. NBA Draft:
1. Josh Jackson
2. Tony Bradley
(Bell #29, Anunoby #31, Ojeleye #33 and Frank Jackson #37)

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/
http://www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft

Hope we can pick up 2 studs and buy 1-2 more second rounders to add assets.

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Post#1176 » by LakersSoul » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:52 pm

Lakers have had a lot of workout for the draft. Some will be for #2 and #28 while others might be for either trade opportunity or as a undrafted player seeking a summer invite.

On June 12, the Lakers worked out Luke Kornet. Kornet is a 4 year senior from Vandy. He will turn 22 next month and averaged 13.2/6.2 and 2 blocks a game. Kornet averaged 3 blocks a game as a junior. Kornet shot 85.7% from FT line and made 1.5 with 4.6 attempts per game or 32.7% from 3 point range. Kornet could be a useful stretch 5 as a shot blocker and 3 point shooter.

Definitely worth a summer invite.

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Post#1177 » by Slava » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:23 pm

LakersSoul wrote:Local kid or not, the FO better pick the BPA right now whether that is Ball or Jackson or whoever. Who knows what will happen during the summer of 2018 or beyond. We get the best player available and if PG comes then we can make the necessary trades to worry about fit and massaging the roster to setup the best team to get to the championship.

In the two mock drafts below updated June 13, they have us picking #2 and #28:

A. Draft Express:
1. Ball
2. Tyler Lydon
(Bradley #31, Jordan Bell #34 and Frank Jackson #36)

B. NBA Draft:
1. Josh Jackson
2. Tony Bradley
(Bell #29, Anunoby #31, Ojeleye #33 and Frank Jackson #37)

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/
http://www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft

Hope we can pick up 2 studs and buy 1-2 more second rounders to add assets.


Reading NBADraft.net's profile of Josh Jackson makes it sound like they are describing Kobe Bryant in Tracy McGrady's body, which he is far ways away from.
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Post#1179 » by Michael Lucky » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:48 pm

Wonder if he got his dad's permission for that video. lol
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Post#1180 » by TylersLakers » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:49 pm

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This is fantastic. Foot Locker strikes gold again. They did the same thing last year with Russell and the cell phone.

I have 0 concerns off the court about Lonzo or his Dad. His dad's just a marketing genius. He may cost him a few million because of it, but that's the decision they made.
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