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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#1181 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:19 am

Possible TPE targets:

Sessions if Cleveland drafts a PG?
Pietrus with Phx glut of wings?
Brandon Rush would we want him?
OJ Mayo for TPE if we loaded it with sweetener (picks)?
Johnny Flynn/Martell Webster?
Aaron Brooks in SnT?
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#1182 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:20 am

LApwnd wrote:Mike Redd, who thinks this guy can still contribute? I say bring him on for vet min, at his finest he was on par with the likes of Ray Allen with his stroke (actually he's the reason Milw let go of Ray). IMO at his best now, a solid pick and pop guy and a spot up shooter, ala Terry. At his worse Shannon Brown lol.


Love it, was thinking about him earlier today
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Post#1183 » by NCHeels2008 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:24 am

AI-in-LA wrote:
Doormatt wrote:Honestly, I'd prefer Jameer to Felton. Nelson is a better 3 point shooter, and they are about equal as defenders/playmakers, although I think Nelson is more consistent overall. plus with an Odom for Nelson/Anderson swap, you're getting another 3 point shooter who is actually a comparable rebounder. I don't think odoms defense is anything special, so we aren't losing much in that department.

I really think that the answer to this teams problem is shooting, specifically the 3. We need to give Kobe/Pau/Bynum more space to operate.


Felton is much, much better than Jameer Nelson. If you're saying you'd rather have a Nelson/Anderson combo than just Felton I can understand that a bit better as Ryan Anderson is a rare big that can shoot the lights out and works hard, but please don't think Nelson is better than Felton straight up.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... elog/2010/

Check out the first round of the playoffs. Nelson absolutely TORCHED Felton, maybe it was an outlier of a series, with my background I'd prefer Felton to be the better player but from what I've seen thus far Nelson is the better player. Nelson also has ice in his viens.
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Post#1184 » by The_Trade_Seer » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:29 am

^ Jameer is MUCH BETTER than anything we currently have at the PG spot and I would agree he could beat Felton 1-on-1 as he is more of a pure scorer ... however I would still maintain that Felton is a much better PG as running the point involves setting up teammates and playing defense and not merely scoring.
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Post#1185 » by The_Trade_Seer » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:25 am

The Minny/Lakers rumors have some teeth ... Eric Pincus is well connected to the Lakers and is not just "some writer".

My guess would be that a trade with the T'Wolves would look as follows:

Pau, Caracter and Ebanks for Love, Flynn, Darko, the exp. contract of Telfair and a $4.9 mil TPE

We would be insane to turn down the above deal, insane.

I'd trade Pau for Love straight up in a heart-beat and taking on Darko's contract is fine if we're also getting Flynn back.

And, if you want D12 or CP3 ... this is an ideal pre-emptive move to make.

Bynum and Flynn for CP3 ... the Hornets would love that.

Bynum, Love and Blake for D12, Bass and Jameer ... the Magic would love that.

Even a 3 team trade that lands us BOTH D12 and CP3 would be do-able after this deal! See the following:

LAKERS TRADE: Bynum, Love, Flynn, Odom, Artest, Brown, the exp. cons of Ratliff & Smith and $3mil
LAKERS RECEIVE: D12, CP3, Okafor and Hedo

MAGIC TRADE: D12 and Hedo
MAGIC RECEIVE: Bynum, Odom, Artest

HORNETS TRADE: CP3 and Okafor
HORNETS RECEIVE: Love, Flynn, Brown, the exp. cons of Ratliff & Smith and $3mil

The separate TPE deal would be us sending our TPE to the Magic for Chris Duhon

RE-VAMPED 2011-12 LAKERS LINEUP

PG: CP3/Blake/Duhon
SG: Kobe/Fisher/Lighty (2nd round pick)
SF: Hedo/Barnes/Walton
PF: K-Mart (MLE)/Tyler (2nd rd. pick)/Smith (2nd rd. pick)
C: D12/Okafor/Dunigan (2nd rd. pick)

Lakers fans would kill for the above lineup!!!!!!!!!! DO IT MITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#1186 » by TyCobb » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:28 am

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Post#1187 » by Slava » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:32 am

Even emplay was saying that he made that trade up on his personal *assumption* that Minny would want Gasol to ease up Rubio's transition.

By all means, Kobe and Pau himself would be deeply pissed if we traded him to Minnesota.
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Post#1188 » by KingLakers » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:56 am

The Pau to Minnesota rumors I think are lot more analysts speculating then true rumors themselves. I like Pincus his entire article was speculation it wasn't really rumor he even said so in the article. But if we're speculating I think a better scenario is Pau and Blake going Minnesota for Love, Webster, Peckovic, Flynn, 20th pick and Tolliver.
Lakers roster after trade
PG. Fisher, Flynn, 20th pick
SG. Kobe, Webster
SF. Artest, Barnes, Tolliver, Ebanks
PF. Love, Odom, Tolliver
C. Bynum, Peckovic
Its a contending roster it may take a little time to turn into a championship contender but it could work. Trade ID# 5900497
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Post#1189 » by The_Trade_Seer » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:12 am

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:By all means, Kobe and Pau himself would be deeply pissed if we traded him to Minnesota.


Are you serious? Pau would be mad of course, but Kobe would be loving this trade after playing with Love for about 5 minutes! Pau is a soft big man who is a below average rebounder for his size and position. He is much more offensive and shot minded ... Love is the exact opposite, the guy is the best rebounder the NBA has seen since Rodman and will get as dirty and nasty as he needs to game in and game out.
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Post#1190 » by Slava » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:25 am

Love is by no means better than Pau Gasol. His rebounding averages are high because he for one stat pads by stealing boards from teammates, much like LO, except that LO is a ball handler and does it to start the break.

Did I mention that his front court partner is Milicic? I mean if someone is going to rebound for Minnesota, its Love. Put him next to Bynum and LO and his averages would be right where Pau's are if not lesser. Pau has been a top 10 rebounder since he joined the Lakers. He's no schmuck and that's while playing next to a legit center and one of the best rebounding PFs.

And finally how did you come to the conclusion that Love is a tougher player? He's played on a 17 win team and hasn't played one minute of playoff basketball. Its one thing to push an agenda and another to pull this kind of logic.

The only thing I like about Love on the Lakers is his 3 point shooting and ability to spread the floor. Which is rare to get from a PF since Horry.
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Post#1191 » by tugs » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:42 am

there's our PG. Mike Miller. 8-)

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/214167/Blazers_Fielding_Offers_For_Andre_Miller

Blazers Fielding Offers For Andre Miller

"We've spoken with Andre a little bit," Buchanan said. "Obviously he's aware of what his contract situation is. He knows how we feel about him. We're going to see as we listen around the league. There's a lot of interest in Andre for various reasons. At the same time, we value him and realize what he's done for us the last two years.
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Post#1192 » by Slava » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:50 am

Looks like GM Brandon Roy is pulling the strings again.
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Post#1193 » by tugs » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:04 am

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Looks like GM Brandon Roy is pulling the strings again.


I didn't know Roy had "some say" on the decisions of the Blazer management. I knew he had some issues because of lack of PT because of the guard and forward glut in Portland. Am I missing something? :-?
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Post#1194 » by Slava » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:09 am

He was quoted saying that he needed the ball in his hands to make plays and Miller should be dealt for someone that fit better alongside him.

This was after his surgery and with Miller carrying that team for a while.
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Post#1195 » by tugs » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:31 am

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:He was quoted saying that he needed the ball in his hands to make plays and Miller should be dealt for someone that fit better alongside him.

This was after his surgery and with Miller carrying that team for a while.


wow. Never thought Roy would act like a douche. I mean, sure he has the package but he's more of a scorer and Miller's the facilitator for the team. I'm having second thoughts now about bringing him in. But I doubt Kobe will act like that with Andre. Miller's legit.
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Post#1196 » by Doormatt » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:14 am

Trading the #2 and/or Love for Gasol just seems (Please Use More Appropriate Word) from the Wolves perspective.
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Post#1197 » by LA Forever » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:29 am

Doormatt wrote:Trading the #2 and/or Love for Gasol just seems (Please Use More Appropriate Word) from the Wolves perspective.

It still wouldn't work with just those 2 players. Gasol makes $16mil/year. Love makes a little under $4mil/year. A 2nd pick rookie will make around $4mil/year. You do the math.

It's a completely lopsided trade, financially speaking.
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Post#1198 » by Kalidogg24 » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:44 am

^^^^^

Completely lopsided trade, Skillset speaking as well .

Anyone who thinks K.Love can measure up to Pau at his best is smoking crack.

Not a knock on K.Love , I think he is a bonafide star just he ain't on Pau's Level yet.
(Pau at his best of course)

Plus alot of those games where he did grab 20 boards and 20 points were against a bunch of bozos. You never heard him doing that to any of the elites.
The 30 points 30 rebounds game was very impressive nonetheless it being against New York who's Coach didn't play Ronny Turiaf any real minutes.
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Post#1199 » by jcwkings » Sat Jun 18, 2011 8:55 pm

chris anderson for #41, and #46

you guys get a good back up center. who can block shots and fits well defensively.
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Post#1200 » by The_Trade_Seer » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:11 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Love is by no means better than Pau Gasol.


I didn't say he was better than Pau, I said he was good and way younger than Pau ... I would swap Pau for Love in a heartbeat for the same reason I would swap Nash for Curry, Duncan for Cousins, etc ...

His rebounding averages are high because he for one stat pads by stealing boards from teammates, much like LO, except that LO is a ball handler and does it to start the break.


Nonsense.

Did I mention that his front court partner is Milicic? I mean if someone is going to rebound for Minnesota, its Love. Put him next to Bynum and LO and his averages would be right where Pau's are if not lesser.


Complete nonsense. If you think Pau would have averaged as many rebounds as Love playing his minutes in Sota this year, you're crazy. Love had one of the greatest rebounding seasons in history. Pau has NEVER been a great rebounder, never.

Pau has been a top 10 rebounder since he joined the Lakers. He's no schmuck and that's while playing next to a legit center and one of the best rebounding PFs.


I never said he's a schmuck, not even close ... however he only plaed next to "a legit center" about 50% of the time and the other 50% he was the starting center ... Pau is not a great rebounder, never has been.

And finally how did you come to the conclusion that Love is a tougher player? He's played on a 17 win team and hasn't played one minute of playoff basketball. Its one thing to push an agenda and another to pull this kind of logic.


I think 90% of NBA GM's would agree that Love is the tougher player ... just watch some game tape dude.

The only thing I like about Love on the Lakers is his 3 point shooting and ability to spread the floor. Which is rare to get from a PF since Horry.


True, though his rebounding is FAR SUPERIOR to Pau and his outlet pass is a rare thing of beauty as well.

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Anyone who thinks K.Love can measure up to Pau at his best is smoking crack.


You're talking -Love at his best against Pau at his best ... I'll go to war with either though Pau is the better passer and more efficient scorer while Love is a far superior rebounder ... I'd give Pau the edge over the next 1-2 years ... the 10 years after that will be all Love's which is the reason I would easily swap Pau for Love!

Plus alot of those games where he did grab 20 boards and 20 points were against a bunch of bozos. You never heard him doing that to any of the elites.


What a bunch of garbage! Love's first 20/20 of the season was against the LAKERS, he killed us for 23 points, 24 rebounds and 5 assists and almost lead the sorry wolves to an upset! Pau had 18/10/3 that game. Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about!

Love also had 20/20 games against the Spurs TWICE and Tunder TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love averaged 12.8 points (17.0 if you discount his one horrific game) and 13.8 rebounds(16.0 if you discount his one horrific game) against us while Pau averaged 17.8 points and 11.5 rebounds against the Wolves.

In the 7 games Love played against the Spurs and Thunder, he averaged 24.6 points and 19.4 rebounds per game!!!!!!!!!!!! READ THAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the same 7 games pau played against the Thunder and Spurs he averaged 18.7 points and 8.7 rebounds!

Have you guys even watched any T'Wolves games??????????

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