2015 Lakers Trade Deadline thread

[JDLAW]

3 way with Cha/Pho

Cha-7th, Frye
LA-9th, 18th, Cha or Pho 2nd
Pho-24th pick, tpe from dumping frye

Cha-gets a higher pick and Frye to be stretch 4 to big Al
Pho-free up more money for FA but only moves 6 spots back

LA-we move 2 spots back and get a high teen pick as well. The 2nd rd is negotiable if thats a hold up then I'd leave it out. We'd still have room to absorb that other bad expiring contract for another pick or two. Draft Gordon and hope Levin falls to 18th. If not find that other team to dump salary with picks and package 18th to move up high enough to take Levin, draft express has him at 17th to Bos while draft.net has him at 11th to Den. So his range his all over the place right now.

There is no TPE when a team is under the cap as the Suns are. They have plenty of cap room for free agents. What you are asking them is to give up #18 for 24, give up Frye (who they like and consider a large contributor to their success), and maybe a 2nd for nothing. Nice try, but this never happens.

you can never have to much money for FA, especially if somebody offers an aburd amount of money for Bledsoe.

Not sure what absurd is, but his max is capped by the CBA at 25% of the cap. Doubt anyone will offer that as he is good but not that good that they would take a chance of getting stuck with such a contract.

[LApwnd]

Not sure what absurd is, but his max is capped by the CBA at 25% of the cap. Doubt anyone will offer that as he is good but not that good that they would take a chance of getting stuck with such a contract.

how bout we trade directly for 7th if you guys can find way to get Gordon and another late teen late 20's pick for our 7th?

[kingstyyyle]

Not sure what absurd is, but his max is capped by the CBA at 25% of the cap. Doubt anyone will offer that as he is good but not that good that they would take a chance of getting stuck with such a contract.

how bout we trade directly for 7th if you guys can find way to get Gordon and another late teen late 20's pick for our 7th?

Are you proposing the 18th,27th, another late teens and late 20s picks for the 7th?

[LApwnd]

Not sure what absurd is, but his max is capped by the CBA at 25% of the cap. Doubt anyone will offer that as he is good but not that good that they would take a chance of getting stuck with such a contract.

how bout we trade directly for 7th if you guys can find way to get Gordon and another late teen late 20's pick for our 7th?

Are you proposing the 18th,27th, another late teens and late 20s picks for the 7th?

no I'm suggesting you find a way to get us Gordon and your indy pick for the 7th, not sure how you guys go about getting Gordon but his projection is anywhere from 9-12 and as high as 6th on various draft sites. IF he's at 6th then no point but if he falls to 9-12 you guys have plenty of asset to get that pick. I"m not sure if Pho would rather keep Gordon but you guys have a logjam at the PF spot as is.

[milesfides]

Since Houston has reportedly been trying to get Lin and Asik off the books to make a run at Carmelo (or just get them off the books since they haven't fit in with Harden and DHo), the Lakers should park their contracts, use them as assets or keep them.

It works on all levels. Since there's a good chance Gasol won't be back with the team. Lakers need a defensive big man to go along with a defensive coach. Asik, check. Farmar hasn't been able to stay healthy, Nash is done, and Kendall has been great at putting up assists in losses. Backcourt player who can facilitate, make shots, drive, and play hard and fearless? Lin, check.

They expire after next season anyway, so we're still good for summer 2015 FA market and beyond. But what if Asik plays like we know he can (not next to Dwight nor coming off the bench), Kobe's healthy and killing it in the post and midrange, and Lin is bringing some of that Linsanity back (and not just a floor spreader for Harden)... We've got a good chance that we actually have something on our hands. Always a possibility. And if we re-sign them for less than their current $16m /yr combined, we still have 23m+ to throw at a max player and fill out the rest of our roster in 2015. And when Kobe retires or takes a paycut in 2016, we can add yet another max player.

Competitive now, flexible, assets for trade, capspace for free agency.

Bottom line is that the balloon payment distorts their actual yearly value (~$8m) and the way they've been used in Houston (to be fair to Morey, he didn't know he'd be able to get Harden and Howard) depresses their market value. In short, I think they're undervalued assets, we can afford them right now and reap the benefits afterwards. Low risk, high reward.

[milesfides]

And the reports are that Houston is willing to add a pick or Terrence Jones to get Lin and Asik off their hands. That would be ideal, because he's active, productive, and on a rookie contract, which is almost neglible for the next two years.

Great insurance plan if Hill is getting offers that hurts our ability to offer max deals to top players in '15 and '16 (Personally I think if we sign him for around the MLE or less for 2 years and 3rd year team option, we can always move him if we have to...just can't overpay for him, but probably some team will, also our draft pick may have impact on Hill)

Our roster will look like:

Lin / Marshall (I'd be open to Farmar, but he has to take close to the minimum again)
Kobe / Bazemore (gotta keep it in the 2-3m category)
Wes (gotta keep in in the 2-3m category) / Kobe / Xavier (will be cheap, worth seeing if he can stay healthy)
Kelly / Jones (yes I would start Kelly, Jones already has proven he can be productive off the bench)
Asik / Sacre

Of course, we throw in our draft pick (whoever it is) in there. Smart to jump over Marshall (maybe even Lin) or Vonleh to jump Sacre.

Either way, that's a pretty good basketball TEAM.

[ROballer]

If we're gonna take Asik/Lin for cap-space Houston better throw in Jones and/or a pick

We're getting Asik/Lin basically for a year,since their cap holds are big enough together to halt our 2015/2016 plans if we plan on keeping them going forward

Basically we have no shot at Love or other Max type FA in 2015 if we don't renounce of their cap holds and let them go after this season....so Houston needs to sweeten up the deal

And I'd agree with the final lineup , Asik/Lin/Jones/ + #7 + possibly another signing or two should put us in the playoffs for next year

I'd hate to have a low lottery pick again and have to give it up to the **** Suns

[aaron_gray]

Would rather just have Asik. I think he would be an okay fit with love, but with today's cba induced market you're probably not going to get any better than that.

[Baller2014]

Unfortunately Morey has a history of overplaying his hand, and seems determined to sit on these guys until someone overpays him (which isn't likely to happen). I remember the reports of GMs almost laughing at his demands for Asik this season, and I doubt much has changed since then.

[milesfides]

If we're gonna take Asik/Lin for cap-space Houston better throw in Jones and/or a pick

We're getting Asik/Lin basically for a year,since their cap holds are big enough together to halt our 2015/2016 plans if we plan on keeping them going forward

Lin and Asik's caphold is about 16-17m combined, so even with Kobe's contract the lakers can sign a max free agent in 15, and Kobe's contract is done on '16 so we're good then too.

Asik seems easier to move than lin, but Houston needs to move both to go for melo. They can do it in one shot w/ lakers, although the jazz might be just as amenable and of course morey would rather trade with them. But maybe we'd do it w/o the pick or a lesser piece than jones, then there's less incentive for the jazz, but still plenty for us, because we're actually trying to win.

[TyCobb]

I'll pass. I'm not a fan of helping Houston build a dynasty.

[ROballer]

Adding Anthony would hardly make Houston a dynasty (assuming he leaves New York in the first place)

Two ball dominant players who chuck shots left and right and don't play much defense(one no defense at all) + add a drama queen who left LA to be the man in another city, and is notorious about complaining for more touches, and now he'll be the 3rd option

Entertainment at its finest....that team has disaster written all over it

[Dr Aki]

i've been advocating this trade since the trade deadline in february

even with melo they'd get pasted by san antonio or OKC

additionally, we don't even need to talk about caps in 2015 since both are expiring contracts in 2015, just in time for love

and he'd be a hell of a lot more amenable to joining the lakers if we can trot out a team of lin/kobe/asik as a core with kobe coming off contract in a year with a whole host of premier free agents on offer

and an even better core if we don't trade that pick for love

[myersia]

Depends on who our coach is. I don't know if Jeremy could handle playing with Kobe. This feels like MDA's wet dream . Could work though. At least this gives us pieces to start with. Add a Deng and a draft pick like Gordon and we could be on to something.

EDIT: NEVERMIND didn't see that you included our draft pick. I'm not trading our draft pick for Jeremy Lin or Asik nor do I want Houston of all teams having that pick.

[aaron_gray]

I'll pass. I'm not a fan of helping Houston build a dynasty.

A dynasty with Coward and Welo? Is that possible?

[gts1]

Besides Lin and Asik coming in what does the trade involve? Who are the Lakers moving to make the trade work

[Dr Aki]

Besides Lin and Asik coming in what does the trade involve? Who are the Lakers moving to make the trade work

add 1-2 picks from houston's end so they don't have to pay 30 mil to these 2 for pure capspace from us to sign melo

houston won't have this opportunity again because parsons is coming off contract the year after and they'll only have around 11-12 mil to go for a free agent (including taking options on motiejunas and terence jones + parsons 1.9 mil caphold and 7 minimum capholds (or any draft picks, which are more expensive)).

ie. houston's time to get 3 stars together is now and while they might not like melo much, they don't have a chance at at 2015 free agents except through trade

which is bloody impossible to do because houston will insist on sending asik/lin

[jcsunsfan]

how bout we trade directly for 7th if you guys can find way to get Gordon and another late teen late 20's pick for our 7th?

Are you proposing the 18th,27th, another late teens and late 20s picks for the 7th?

no I'm suggesting you find a way to get us Gordon and your indy pick for the 7th, not sure how you guys go about getting Gordon but his projection is anywhere from 9-12 and as high as 6th on various draft sites. IF he's at 6th then no point but if he falls to 9-12 you guys have plenty of asset to get that pick. I"m not sure if Pho would rather keep Gordon but you guys have a logjam at the PF spot as is.

We need a starting/all-star caliber pf and the same with sf. We have role players at pf as it is. So if we get a chance to draft Gordon, we are likely keeping him. Also, Frye can opt out right now, so we cannot include him in any trades.

Why not trade Kobe to NY for Melo? Give you a younger piece to work with and Phil and Kobe rejoin one another.

[Slava]

Morey thinks of Asik as an asset and wants a pick in return in any trade, he won't budge off that now and if I'm taking Lin for a season, I want a pick in return or much rather look at him in free agency in 2015.

[Michael Lucky]

if they come with picks i'll think about it, if not then no.