Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion

[Biased_Fan6425]

Team Ingram all the way...

[Frank Dux]

I'm absolutely stoked.

I always thought our core was too small, and not versatile enough. Getting to pick either Simmons or Ingram will give us a much needed bigger, more dynamic player.

Ingram has beautiful form on his shot, and has freakish length. I see a little of Kawhi and Durant in him. He's a surprisingly good ball handler, and passer.

Simmons seems to have the star factor. You don't find legit 6'10, 240 pound point forwards very often. I don't care what anyone says, this guy is too skilled, and too athletic not to be a big time player. With better spacing at the NBA level, Simmons will get to the rim at will, and is a great playmaker. I think he's a great fit along side Russell. Simmons will be somewhat of a Draymond Green, do-it-all player. Definitely needs to work on his shot though, but regardless, he's a tremendous player.

[warrenpeace]

Very happy that we kept our pick. Whichever one we pick, we are finally going to get our best player.

[drone3]

How's this for a rotation

D'lo / Clarkson
Derozan / Lou
Barnes / Ingram
Randle / Larry
Whiteside / Bass

[Showtime:Part2]

Very happy that we kept our pick. Whichever one we pick, we are finally going to get our best player.

lol is this a subtle shot at randle/russell? they are no slouches fyi. impossible to tell who will be the best of the 3 the first few years imo... also you're observing through the lens of a byron scott season. they managed to shine despite him. wait to see what they do w luke

[Showtime:Part2]

i just watch Ingram and Ben video.

i don't know, but to me Ingram is better prospect. Ben Simmons is like Randle but softer version, and Randle is proven in NBA. Ingram has so many offensive moves, not just shooting. He also very looooong and SURPRISINGLY STRONG. he can finish with contact, and not afraid to slash.

when his body filled out, watch out.

agree 100%.

[warrenpeace]

Very happy that we kept our pick. Whichever one we pick, we are finally going to get our best player.

lol is this a subtle shot at randle/russell? they are no slouches fyi. impossible to tell who will be the best of the 3 the first few years imo... also you're observing through the lens of a byron scott season. they managed to shine despite him. wait to see what they do w luke

I never believed that you can have a great team with either Clarkson, D'Angelo or Randel as the best player on your team. All three are very flawed in my opinion. I believed that Clarkson was the best and most consistent player on the team this past season. I also said that that is where the trouble lies, that you can't expect to finish better than the 2nd worst team in the NBA, when Jordan Clarkson is your best and most consistent player.

I can see Simmons or Ingram one day being the best play not just on a great team, but on a championship winning team.

[Showtime:Part2]

Very happy that we kept our pick. Whichever one we pick, we are finally going to get our best player.

lol is this a subtle shot at randle/russell? they are no slouches fyi. impossible to tell who will be the best of the 3 the first few years imo... also you're observing through the lens of a byron scott season. they managed to shine despite him. wait to see what they do w luke

I never believed that you can have a great team with either Clarkson, D'Angelo or Randel as the best player on your team. All three are very flawed in my opinion. I believed that Clarkson was the best and most consistent player on the team this past season. I also said that that is where the trouble lies, that you can't expect to finish better than the 2nd worst team in the NBA, when Jordan Clarkson is your best and most consistent player.

I can see Simmons or Ingram one day being the best play not just on a great team, but on a championship winning team.

im no fan of clarksons but im not sure what major flaw you are seeing in russell other than maybe elite athleticism (mind you something a lot of nba greats like steve nash didnt have). also if randle develops a jumper like blake, draymon, and lebron all did eventually then watch out. you're jumping the gun.

[Showtime:Part2]

if we get simmons, imo we absolutely have to be the fastest pace team in the nba. i would even run SSOL offense. just run the break w randle, simmons, and clarkson, with russell falling back a little to the 3. push pace constantly. if we get ingram we can do a more traditional motion offense.

[warrenpeace]

lol is this a subtle shot at randle/russell? they are no slouches fyi. impossible to tell who will be the best of the 3 the first few years imo... also you're observing through the lens of a byron scott season. they managed to shine despite him. wait to see what they do w luke

I never believed that you can have a great team with either Clarkson, D'Angelo or Randel as the best player on your team. All three are very flawed in my opinion. I believed that Clarkson was the best and most consistent player on the team this past season. I also said that that is where the trouble lies, that you can't expect to finish better than the 2nd worst team in the NBA, when Jordan Clarkson is your best and most consistent player.

I can see Simmons or Ingram one day being the best play not just on a great team, but on a championship winning team.

im no fan of clarksons but im not sure what major flaw you are seeing in russell other than maybe elite athleticism (mind you something a lot of nba greats like steve nash didnt have). also if randle develops a jumper like blake, draymon, and lebron all did eventually then watch out. you're jumping the gun.

The list of Randels flaws are well documented. Lack of a right hand, can't finish, can't finish over length, has tunnel vision on his drives, has no length, has short wingspan, has no jump shot.

Nash was very quick when he was younger and was an incredible ball handler, great 2 point, 3 point shooter and a great free throw shooter. He also knew how to run the point guard position from day one.

[Showtime:Part2]

I never believed that you can have a great team with either Clarkson, D'Angelo or Randel as the best player on your team. All three are very flawed in my opinion. I believed that Clarkson was the best and most consistent player on the team this past season. I also said that that is where the trouble lies, that you can't expect to finish better than the 2nd worst team in the NBA, when Jordan Clarkson is your best and most consistent player.

I can see Simmons or Ingram one day being the best play not just on a great team, but on a championship winning team.

im no fan of clarksons but im not sure what major flaw you are seeing in russell other than maybe elite athleticism (mind you something a lot of nba greats like steve nash didnt have). also if randle develops a jumper like blake, draymon, and lebron all did eventually then watch out. you're jumping the gun.

The list of Randels flaws are well documented. Lack of a right hand, can't finish, can't finish over length, has tunnel vision on his drives, has no length, has short wingspan, has no jump shot.

Nash was very quick when he was younger and was an incredible ball handler, great 2 point, 3 point shooter and a great free throw shooter. He also knew how to run the point guard position from day one.

i wasnt comparing russell to nash. just saying you can be an atg player without elite athleticism (i mean look at larry bird for christ sake). not sure what other flaws you see in russell. he's maybe mediocre at other things but nothing flawed. if randle developed a jumper, don't you think finishing would be much easier for him? defense would have to get up on him and he could then just blow by. length wouldnt matter because he's so quick

[Kobe System]

How's this for a rotation

D'lo / Clarkson
Derozan / Lou
Barnes / Ingram
Randle / Larry
Whiteside / Bass

Ingram should start ahead of Matt Barnes.

[warrenpeace]

im no fan of clarksons but im not sure what major flaw you are seeing in russell other than maybe elite athleticism (mind you something a lot of nba greats like steve nash didnt have). also if randle develops a jumper like blake, draymon, and lebron all did eventually then watch out. you're jumping the gun.

The list of Randels flaws are well documented. Lack of a right hand, can't finish, can't finish over length, has tunnel vision on his drives, has no length, has short wingspan, has no jump shot.

Nash was very quick when he was younger and was an incredible ball handler, great 2 point, 3 point shooter and a great free throw shooter. He also knew how to run the point guard position from day one.

i wasnt comparing russell to nash. just saying you can be an atg player without elite athleticism (i mean look at larry bird for christ sake). not sure what other flaws you see in russell. he's maybe mediocre at other things but nothing flawed. if randle developed a jumper, don't you think finishing would be much easier for him? defense would have to get up on him and he could then just blow by. length wouldnt matter because he's so quick

If he develops a jumper, it would only make it easier for him to drive to the basket. Randle's problem, is he has a low percentage of finish on his drives. Because of his short wingspan, he has trouble finishing over length. He also puts too much spin on the ball on his drives.

[ak7]

considering Embiid is 100% healthy obviously,
would anybody consider Randle/#2 for Embiid/#1, with the Lakers drafting Simmons?

*IF* Embiid is healthy, that trade can help both teams. 6ers get balance, Lakers make room for Simmons to operate and possibly Embiid to break out.

What is with these trades. The 76ers have a logjam in the front court. Why would they trade a front court player for another front court player and then move down in the draft? Should we provide them the lube as well?

[WVlakerfan]

I was intrigued by a couple post from moonpie's thread he started in the general board. the best one was Okafor,Saric, and 2017 pick back, for #2. Personally i would do this all day i don't really like okafor but thats turning 1 asset into 3 and I'm all for talent acquisition regardless of fit.
The second was Hayward, #12, for #2 and nick young. I really like Hayward's game and we get out from under Youngs contract but I'd only do this with confirmation that we were getting additional pieces in FA.

[Spanish_Laker]

This is not like the situation we were in last year when we had a tough choice between D'Angelo Russell, Porzingis and Okafor. This time, I think it is a no-brainer we're picking whoever Philly doesn't, as simple as that. In fact, both players have got an enormous potential, I'll be really happy with either Simmons or Ingram.

[drone3]

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[drone3]

How's this for a rotation

D'lo / Clarkson
Derozan / Lou
Barnes / Ingram
Randle / Larry
Whiteside / Bass

Ingram should start ahead of Matt Barnes.

I was referring to Harrison Barnes

[jigga_man]

How's this for a rotation

D'lo / Clarkson
Derozan / Lou
Barnes / Ingram
Randle / Larry
Whiteside / Bass

Ingram should start ahead of Matt Barnes.

I was referring to Harrison Barnes

Would there be enough cap for Whiteside + Derozan + Barnes? All three will most likely command the max. Actually thinking about it, Derozan would compliment well with Ingram and Russell.

Russell/Derozan/Ingram/Randle/Whiteside is a pretty balanced lineup. Both Derozan and Whiteside are in their mid 20's so they can grow with the younger prospects. Barnes is unnecessary, imo.

[Jon Snow]

I'm happy with both Ingram and Simmons. Honestly, I would love to pick 2nd than the 1st overall. I would prefer Ingram though.