2018 Trade Ideas thread

Spens1 · Post #1221 » by **Spens1** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:50 pm

Uncommon wrote:Magic fan coming in peace asking a question about Lonzo in a potential trade. I might be waaayyy out of left on this, and if I am, please let me know.

If rumors are to be believed, Lakers have a decent shot at LeBron this summer. More rumors suggest Chris Paul might be at odds with Houston over a max contract. If CP3 and LBJ team up in LA, I read an article that said the Lakers might look to move Ball, especially since LeBron and LaVar have never seen eye to eye.

What do you think about an offer of Evan Fournier, Jonathan Simmons, and a lottery-protected 1st for Ball and Luol Deng? Fournier could be the 2-guard that’s an excellent 3-point shooter and Simmons would be the defensive dog-type that LeBron covets to do the dirty work.

If that wasn’t enough, I’d try to revise the deal: Fournier, Simmons, and Vucevic for Ball, Deng, and Channing Frye.

In either scenario, Deng’s contract hurts us. 3 more years at $17M per is a lot to swallow. But Fournier’s contract isn’t great either, with 4 years at $17M, but at least LA would get rid of Deng and Fournier solves a need: 3-point shooting. Vucevic is a capable starter or sweet-shooting solid bench center made expendable with Bamba being drafted. Frye is an expiring so it doesn’t matter much either way. He’s just in there for salary cap purposes.

Now I don’t know if that offer is good enough at all, but not many teams need a PG so it may have to do if LeBron is adamant about not playing with Ball. Off the top of my head, Phoenix, Indiana, LAC and Milwaukee would probably be interested, and maybe Charlotte, Chicago and Detroit. We’d have to beat their offers, and it may have to involve a protected 1st rounder. But Ball would give us incredible size and length all around and the Lakers could potentially boast a lineup of:

Vucevic
LeBron
George
Fournier
Paul

This is assuming PG could be had in a sign and trade for Ingram or Kuzma something.

So what do you think? Just curious to see if I’d get laughed out of my own forum.

Yeah no interest in that. Fournier's contract is long and expensive for what we're doing. Your only chance is probably Bamba i'd say.

Uncommon · Post #1222 » by **Uncommon** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:06 pm

Ahh okay, looks like no interest from LA’s end

Thanks fellas

Spens1 · Post #1223 » by **Spens1** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:35 am

Uncommon wrote:Ahh okay, looks like no interest from LA’s end

Thanks fellas

No problem, if you want a Ball like P.G. then maybe Exum may be the way to go or somehow get Collison from Indiana or Schroeder.

loveshaq786 · Post #1224 » by **loveshaq786** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:48 am

loveshaq786 wrote:3way:
LA: Jalen Brunson and Zhaire Smith
Dallas: Kuzma and Deng
Philly: Wesley Mathews and 2019 LA FRP (unprotected)

We get out of Deng's contract at the heavy price of Kuzma and a FRP.... but get 2 quality young players

3way:
LA: Jalen Brunson, mo bamba and Wesley Mathews
Dallas: vucevic and t. Ross
Orlando: Deng, lonzo, zubac and 2019 LA FRP (unprotected)

larry14r · Post #1225 » by **larry14r** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:24 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:
loveshaq786 wrote:3way:
LA: Jalen Brunson and Zhaire Smith
Dallas: Kuzma and Deng
Philly: Wesley Mathews and 2019 LA FRP (unprotected)

We get out of Deng's contract at the heavy price of Kuzma and a FRP.... but get 2 quality young players

3way:
LA: Jalen Brunson, mo bamba and Wesley Mathews
Dallas: vucevic and t. Ross
Orlando: Deng, lonzo, zubac and 2019 LA FRP (unprotected)

No one is touching Lonzo we can thank his dad for that.

loveshaq786 · Post #1226 » by **loveshaq786** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:33 pm

I disagree....he has been quiet because media isn't giving him The Time of day

And they need a PG...baddd

larry14r · Post #1227 » by **larry14r** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:29 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:I disagree....he has been quiet because media isn't giving him The Time of day

And they need a PG...baddd

Too bad Lonzo belongs to the Lakers

NBAWestFan · Post #1228 » by **NBAWestFan** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:19 am

I rather not give up Lonzo unless it was for Leonard.

Does not look like it is happening through Spurs .

It might be best to just sit tight and wait for 2019 and pick up some good role players if not Lebron or PG

NBAWestFan · Post #1229 » by **NBAWestFan** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:19 am

I rather not give up Lonzo unless it was for Leonard.

Does not look like it is happening through Spurs .

It might be best to just sit tight and wait for 2019 and pick up some good role players if not Lebron or PG

Spens1 · Post #1230 » by **Spens1** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:08 am

I'd give up Ball if the price was right (i.e. Leonard, or if Portland decide to blow it up, Lillard or someone of a high caliber). I'd even consider Ball + Deng for Kemba IF we already got Leonard and are signing George and Lebron.

LAKESHOW · Post #1231 » by **LAKESHOW** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:50 pm

The thing I noticed, the clippers negotiated with Charlotte and mitch. I somewhat dont think the clippers or Charlotte will deal with us

larry14r · Post #1232 » by **larry14r** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:54 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:The thing I noticed, the clippers negotiated with Charlotte and mitch. I somewhat dont think the clippers or Charlotte will deal with us

Bingo and why should they.

LAKESHOW · Post #1233 » by **LAKESHOW** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:02 pm

Not to emphasize that they should or should not, but to point out what some folks may not have noticed.

loveshaq786 · Post #1234 » by **loveshaq786** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:24 pm

Watch on YouTube

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Kemba could be gone for cheap... Charlottes recently took on a longer deal for short term relief.

Could we deal... deng, zubac, cash, and 2019 FRP (unprotected).... for kemba (expiring 12 mil), and marvin williams (15 mil) (3 mill less than deng in last year, and easier to trade)...that gives them almost 8 million before taxes... (potentially 13+ mil in savings)

if they are looking for talent instead of cap space.. we can easily s&T pope or isiah... in that deal

larry14r · Post #1235 » by **larry14r** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:38 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:

Watch on YouTube
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Kemba could be gone for cheap... Charlottes recently took on a longer deal for short term relief.

Could we deal... deng, zubac, cash, and 2019 FRP (unprotected).... for kemba (expiring 12 mil), and marvin williams (15 mil) (3 mill less than deng in last year, and easier to trade)...that gives them almost 8 million before taxes... (potentially 13+ mil in savings)

if they are looking for talent instead of cap space.. we can easily s&T pope or isiah... in that deal

Mitch is not helping us anymore!!!!!!!!

Spens1 · Post #1236 » by **Spens1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:29 am

larry14r wrote:
loveshaq786 wrote:

Watch on YouTube
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Kemba could be gone for cheap... Charlottes recently took on a longer deal for short term relief.

Could we deal... deng, zubac, cash, and 2019 FRP (unprotected).... for kemba (expiring 12 mil), and marvin williams (15 mil) (3 mill less than deng in last year, and easier to trade)...that gives them almost 8 million before taxes... (potentially 13+ mil in savings)

if they are looking for talent instead of cap space.. we can easily s&T pope or isiah... in that deal

Mitch is not helping us anymore!!!!!!!!

He helped Brooklyn nicely, he owes it to us to at least take back his Deng deal.

larry14r · Post #1237 » by **larry14r** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:31 am

Spens1 wrote:
larry14r wrote:
loveshaq786 wrote:

Watch on YouTube
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Kemba could be gone for cheap... Charlottes recently took on a longer deal for short term relief.

Could we deal... deng, zubac, cash, and 2019 FRP (unprotected).... for kemba (expiring 12 mil), and marvin williams (15 mil) (3 mill less than deng in last year, and easier to trade)...that gives them almost 8 million before taxes... (potentially 13+ mil in savings)

if they are looking for talent instead of cap space.. we can easily s&T pope or isiah... in that deal

Mitch is not helping us anymore!!!!!!!!

He helped Brooklyn nicely, he owes it to us to at least take back his Deng deal.

In the words of Mitch. "Let me think........................................NO."

Spens1 · Post #1238 » by **Spens1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:33 am

larry14r wrote:
Spens1 wrote:
larry14r wrote:
Mitch is not helping us anymore!!!!!!!!

He helped Brooklyn nicely, he owes it to us to at least take back his Deng deal.

In the words of Mitch. "Let me think........................................NO."

Deng + 2019 first + Zubac and Hart for Kemba. After that Mozgov deal nothing is impossible with him now.

larry14r · Post #1239 » by **larry14r** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:35 am

Spens1 wrote:
larry14r wrote:
Spens1 wrote:
He helped Brooklyn nicely, he owes it to us to at least take back his Deng deal.

In the words of Mitch. "Let me think........................................NO."

Deng + 2019 first + Zubac and Hart for Kemba. After that Mozgov deal nothing is impossible with him now.

Just want nothing to do with us. Plus we already got a PG. It's SG and C we need help the most in.

Spens1 · Post #1240 » by **Spens1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:37 am

larry14r wrote:
Spens1 wrote:
larry14r wrote:
In the words of Mitch. "Let me think........................................NO."

Deng + 2019 first + Zubac and Hart for Kemba. After that Mozgov deal nothing is impossible with him now.

Just want nothing to do with us. Plus we already got a PG. It's SG and C we need help the most in.

if Lebron comes we'd need a P.G. who can work off the ball, in theory, if we can ditch Deng, get Kemba back and not have to give up one of our core pieces, we take that 10/10.