2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

Post #1321 » by **TyCobb** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:51 pm

"Magic who?"

ozymandias818 · Post #1322 » by **ozymandias818** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:52 pm

Nevermind, kid is a Celtic.

Post #1323 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:53 pm

TyCobb wrote:

"Magic who?"

He's giving dat Embiid to Sixers look...

Sunzgunz · Post #1324 » by **Sunzgunz** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:53 pm

Two rumors:

1) Sacramento is willing to trade #5 And #10, but it has to be for #3 spot or better. They are not willing to do it to move up just 1 spot (i.e. Suns #4 spot).

2) Lakers are willing to trade back with the Suns (Lakers #2 spot for the Suns #4 spot) provided we'll take on one of their less desirable contracts (Loul Deng or Mozgov).

Question: Do we trade back with the Lakers just to set us up to be in a position to trade with Sacramento? So basically we take on a bad contract and move back one draft spot (which probably doesn't impact who we get: we still get our man) and were awarded a #10 spot for doing so?

Or, if we get a #2 spot, we just grab Ball, a true pg to compliment all our young talent and call this a draft?

Post #1325 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:54 pm

To be fair though, Magic and Pelinka do kinda look like complete ass-clowns in the pick. Maybe it's some kind of filter.

Post #1326 » by **TyCobb** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:01 pm

Felt like the fakest workout ever. Like test driving a Corvette when you know you're getting the Phantom.

deargodno · Post #1327 » by **deargodno** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:12 pm

Pelinka to Rob Lowe: "Look, all you gotta do is go to this kid's workout and take some photos and I'll hook you up with great tickets whenever you need them."
Lowe: "Can I wear a silly suit and make funny faces?"

*Pelinka slinks off to a meeting with Sacramento and Phoenix under the cover of darkness*

Jon Snow · Post #1328 » by **Jon Snow** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:20 pm

TyCobb wrote:

"Magic who?"

Damn. The kid is obviously a Celtic. :lol:

So where is this undisclosed location where Lonzo will have his work out? In UCLA perhaps? Magic, Rob and Luke were there the other day right? or will it be in LaVar's backyard hoops or somethin'?

JohnVancouver · Post #1329 » by **JohnVancouver** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:33 pm

ozymandias818 wrote:
Pythagoras wrote:
ozymandias818 wrote:No. D'lo will never be a good defender. There are plenty of players that came out of college with 0 jumper and developed a very good one.

This feels like you just hand waving away a very serious flaw of JJ's. Who are these players that became "very good" shooters? Way more often than not, if a guy can't shoot in college, the best you can hope for is them becoming a passable shooter in the NBA.

And defensively, you can scheme around a guard who isn't a good defender (see Steph).

Ever heard of Kawhi Leonard? Pau Gasol? Marc Gasol, who made more 3s this year than he had ATTEMPTED his entire career? These guys are off the top of my head. Kawhi shot 44% from 3 last year, 20% his freshman year. You can teach elite shooting, you can't teach what Ball needs to be a high-level defender.

Channing Frye became a good shooter from range, Jared Dudley

Post #1330 » by **TyCobb** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:35 pm

Anybody know Pelton's projections?

Post #1331 » by **Slava** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:38 pm

TyCobb wrote:Anybody know Pelton's projections?

1. Ball
2. Fultz
3. Issac
4. Smith
5. Collins
6. Jackson
7. Anunoby
8. Tatum
9. Markannen
10. Fox

Post #1332 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:49 pm

Kilroy wrote:
Jon Snow wrote:I don't even want LA to trade Russell for the # 3 at all. I'm very intrigued to see how Ball and D'Lo together on the court first. I can also see Russell will have a good year next season. 7 days to go.

Well in a vacuum, I wouldn't either... The only reasons I can think of that the FO would want to make that trade would have to do with fit or health... If they got the impression from Russell that he wasn't going to be happy to give up the ball to Ball when he came in, then you might be inclined to make that trade. Or if you think the fact that Russell has missed significant time with his knees in his first 2 seasons is more of an issue than it seems, you might make the trade too...

So I don't think it's as simple as they think Jackson's better than Russell.

I don't see how It would be an issue for Dlo to give up the ball to ball, he already gave it up to Ingram in a way

Post #1333 » by **Kilroy** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:53 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
Jon Snow wrote:I don't even want LA to trade Russell for the # 3 at all. I'm very intrigued to see how Ball and D'Lo together on the court first. I can also see Russell will have a good year next season. 7 days to go.

Well in a vacuum, I wouldn't either... The only reasons I can think of that the FO would want to make that trade would have to do with fit or health... If they got the impression from Russell that he wasn't going to be happy to give up the ball to Ball when he came in, then you might be inclined to make that trade. Or if you think the fact that Russell has missed significant time with his knees in his first 2 seasons is more of an issue than it seems, you might make the trade too...

So I don't think it's as simple as they think Jackson's better than Russell.

I don't see how It would be an issue for Dlo to give up the ball to ball, he already gave it up to Ingram in a way

And Randle... So, yeah, I agree. I don't really see the need to trade Dlo... Unless they just thought Jackson was a better fit.

And I can see how maybe his athleticism and Defensive prowess might make them think that. Ball/Jackson/Ingram/Randle/Zubac isn't a bad lineup on both ends of the court.

trevm37 · Post #1334 » by **trevm37** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:24 pm

Doesn't matter, DLO is not enough to get the #3 pick (his value you around the league is much lower than in these forums). Roll with ball and DLo or Dlo and Jackson (also an intriguing pairing).

MagicMamba88 · Post #1335 » by **MagicMamba88** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:34 pm

Jon Snow wrote:
TyCobb wrote:

"Magic who?"

Damn. The kid is obviously a Celtic.

So where is this undisclosed location where Lonzo will have his work out? In UCLA perhaps? Magic, Rob and Luke were there the other day right? or will it be in LaVar's backyard hoops or somethin'?

Read on Twitter

Post #1336 » by **TyCobb** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:36 pm

Optms · Post #1337 » by **Optms** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:49 pm

Dude kind of looks like the Monster from Frankenstein in that pic.

Pointgod · Post #1338 » by **Pointgod** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:49 pm

jay51024 wrote:

Read on Twitter

I like the activity whether or not they make the trade. This is the opposite of what Mitch and Jim would do and we saw how that worked out.

Pointgod · Post #1339 » by **Pointgod** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:53 pm

Sunzgunz wrote:Two rumors:

1) Sacramento is willing to trade #5 And #10, but it has to be for #3 spot or better. They are not willing to do it to move up just 1 spot (i.e. Suns #4 spot).

2) Lakers are willing to trade back with the Suns (Lakers #2 spot for the Suns #4 spot) provided we'll take on one of their less desirable contracts (Loul Deng or Mozgov).

Question: Do we trade back with the Lakers just to set us up to be in a position to trade with Sacramento? So basically we take on a bad contract and move back one draft spot (which probably doesn't impact who we get: we still get our man) and were awarded a #10 spot for doing so?

Or, if we get a #2 spot, we just grab Ball, a true pg to compliment all our young talent and call this a draft?

I like the suns trade especially if they take on a bad contract. If Lakers truly believe that there's little difference between Ball, Jackson and Fox this makes a ton of sense.

Post #1340 » by **Slava** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:58 pm

The new LA times beat reporter is awesome.

Read on Twitter

She used to cover the Texans for ESPN prior to this.

Who do the Lakers draft on June 22nd with the 2nd overall pick?