Official Transaction Ideas thread

Doormatt · Post #1341 » by **Doormatt** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:16 am

AI-in-LA wrote:^ You're kidding right? Odom is a big and perhaps the most multi-skilled big in the NBA .... Iggy is a wing player that can't shoot with a horrible contract.

We can make the demands.

Odom is also on the wrong side of 30 while Iggy is his prime. and who cares how skilled Odom is, he just isnt as good as Iggy, particularly when you take age into consideration.

And Iggy's primary contribution isnt shooting, its defense, followed by playmaking. its like saying you wouldnt take on Artest at 27 because he wasnt a good shooter. thats not what their roles are, and thats not why the lakers would be interested.

The_Trade_Seer · Post #1342 » by **The_Trade_Seer** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:28 am

Doormatt wrote:Odom is also on the wrong side of 30 while Iggy is his prime. and who cares how skilled Odom is, he just isnt as good as Iggy, particularly when you take age into consideration.

I'm sorry dude but yuou're just wrong. Odom is an 18/11/5 guy with starters minutes ... Iggy is a defensive minded wing who can be a playmaker ... Odom is the better player, with the better contract, period.

And Iggy's primary contribution isnt shooting, its defense, followed by playmaking.

I agree 100% ... Odom's primary contribution isn't scoring either, it's rebounding, play-making, defense, then scoring.

its like saying you wouldnt take on Artest at 27 because he wasnt a good shooter.

Dude, you misunderstood me ... I never said I wouldn't want Iggy, I'd love to get him, I just said Odom has more value and we should be able to get Lou and/or the #16 back if we're including Ron and some 2nd rd picks ... I love Odom and Ron and will be sad to see them go, but I will be cool with Iggy ... how could I not be? He'll make my name as prophetic as my posts :lol:

thats not what their roles are, and thats not why the lakers would be interested.

I agree, we just view Odom's market value differently it seems ...

hoops_32 · Post #1343 » by **hoops_32** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:48 am

I like Iggy but he shouldn't be the top priority. I would trade Odom,Walton,Blake,#41,#46, and a future 1st for Iggy, Speights,#16 pick though. That would make us younger and more athletic and better on defense. I would then trade the #16 and Speights for the #8 pick and draft Kemba Walker.Then sign Kenyon Martin and Jeff Foster and call it an offseason. That would make us champions once again.

Walker/Fisher
Bryant/Barnes
Iggy/Artest
Gasol/Martin
Bynum/Foster

stankubrick13 · Post #1344 » by **stankubrick13** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:37 am

combining the rumors...getting the perfect squad in purple and gold...4 team trade, but not that confusing...bare with me.

Lakers out: odom, artest, fisher, ebanks
Lakers in: steph curry, martell webster, Andris biedrins, lou williams

76ers out: Iggy, speights, lou williams
76ers in: Odom, Artest, resigned shannon brown

Wolves out: # 2, webster, tolliver, ridnuor
Wolves in: Iguodala, caracter, ebanks

GS out: Steph Curry, Biedrins,
GS in: # 2, ridnour, tolliver, speights, fisher (bought out)

we become...
pg - steph curry/blake
sg - kobe/lou williams
sf - webster/barnes
pf - Gasol/MLE (Kenyon Martin Maybe?)
C - Bynum/Biedrins

This is IDEAL. stephy curry and webster can shoot the lights out. Lou will is a scoring machine off the bench, and biedrins can actually spell bynum...we sign k mart for the MLE, and we win another title.

GS? they get the #2 and get rid of biedrins contract.

Wolves? they get their man in Iggy, and some nice young assets in ebanks, caracter

76ers? get their man in odom, artest for salary and defense, and a resigned highlight reel in Shannon brown. They also save a ton of money by getting rid of IGGY.

again, this is my dream...but it doesn't seem that far off...does it?

LApwnd · Post #1345 » by **LApwnd** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:44 am

Jetset wrote:I'd rather have the #2 pick than Iguodala tbh. If we can trade Odom to Philly, Iguodala to Minn, and the #2 to us, I'd be more than estatic. We'd essentially be getting the #2 just for Odom, then we could draft Knight and still have the core of Pau and Bynum to contend with.

dude we be the laughing stock of league if we took Knight with #2, even if he is a player of need.

LAzPhenom · Post #1346 » by **LAzPhenom** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:39 am

its true that we need a point guard and knight would fill our needs, but i would much rather take williams. Then try to land sessions with some picks and TPE

TheKingLivesOn · Post #1347 » by **TheKingLivesOn** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:44 am

LAzPhenom wrote:its true that we need a point guard and knight would fill our needs, but i would much rather take williams. Then try to land sessions with some picks and TPE

Sessions would be good. However, Daniel Gibson might be just as good of an option at a cheaper rate. He has a history with Mike, can spread the floor better, is just as good on defense, and is better off the ball in situations where kobe chooses to go iso. He could pretty much fill the role Derek Fisher has filled for the past few years. He is also a very clutch shooter and is married to Keisha Cole so he would welcome a move to LA.

LAzPhenom · Post #1348 » by **LAzPhenom** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:26 am

TheKingLivesOn wrote:
LAzPhenom wrote:its true that we need a point guard and knight would fill our needs, but i would much rather take williams. Then try to land sessions with some picks and TPE

Sessions would be good. However, Daniel Gibson might be just as good of an option at a cheaper rate. He has a history with Mike, can spread the floor better, is just as good on defense, and is better off the ball in situations where kobe chooses to go iso. He could pretty much fill the role Derek Fisher has filled for the past few years. He is also a very clutch shooter and is married to Keisha Cole so he would welcome a move to LA.

i agree, and before reading your post i was coming up with a trade, im not too good with trades, though, so not sure if all three teams would accept it, here it is:

Cleveland Out: Sessions, Gibson, Varejao
Cleveland In: Artest, Steve Blake, Ebanks, and 4 second round picks

Lakers Out: Odom, Artest, Blake, Ebanks, and 4 second round picks
Lakers In: Iggy, Gibson, Sessions

76ers Out: Iggy
76ers In: Odom and Varejao

this trade works on espn trade machine

76ers are getting two talented forwards

Cavs: get a great defender in Artest, get youth in Ebanks, get Blake who they could buy-out if they want. and they get 4 second picks that they could get lucky with, they also clear of the point guard spot a bit since they are going to have Irving and Davis

Lakers fill up their needs, and obviously good for the lakers since we would have iggy, a good starting point guard, and a three point shooter off the bench

Sessions/Gibson/Fisher
Kobe/Gibson
Iggy/Barnes/Luke
Gasol/ MLE( K. Martin)/Caracter
Bynum

i would do this trade in a heartbeat

Jajwanda · Post #1349 » by **Jajwanda** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:58 am

There's a number of ways to cover the Laker's problems but you have to remember Fisher is a part of that lineup so you need someone to cover his ass on D off the bench. That's why getting a Nolan Smith is so important. If you do that and perhaps a big SF shooter like Rasual Butler your only real problem that's left is at the 4/5. You have a tough old school PF like Caracter, you just need a stretch 4 like Rashard Lewis if he gets cut.

Doormatt · Post #1350 » by **Doormatt** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:20 am

Jetset wrote:I'd rather have the #2 pick than Iguodala tbh. If we can trade Odom to Philly, Iguodala to Minn, and the #2 to us, I'd be more than estatic. We'd essentially be getting the #2 just for Odom, then we could draft Knight and still have the core of Pau and Bynum to contend with.

wtf, my head would literally explode if we could get the #2 pick for Odom/Artest.

Jetset · Post #1351 » by **Jetset** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:02 pm

LApwnd wrote:
Jetset wrote:I'd rather have the #2 pick than Iguodala tbh. If we can trade Odom to Philly, Iguodala to Minn, and the #2 to us, I'd be more than estatic. We'd essentially be getting the #2 just for Odom, then we could draft Knight and still have the core of Pau and Bynum to contend with.

dude we be the laughing stock of league if we took Knight with #2, even if he is a player of need.

How so? In a draft where there is no sure fire prospect you need to draft off potential. Derrick Williams is nothing but a sober version of Michael Beasley. You draft on potential down the road in a weak draft such as this, and Knight has higher potential than everyone else not named Kyrie Irving. Plus he plays at the position in which we have a glaring need of so it's a no brained who should be selected. And Utah is planning on drafting him 3rd overall, so not really sure how we'd be the "laughing stock" when he could going off the board immediately after the 2nd pick.

KingLakers · Post #1352 » by **KingLakers** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:17 pm

Laker fans please post things that make sense what team in the NBA would participate in a trade that brings to LA the #2 pick and Iggy for a few past 30 yrs old vets I mean come on guys stop dreaming. As a Laker fan who try's to have a logical discussion about the team it doesn't help when so many trades that are thought of tilt so much in the Lakers favor with the exception of a few guys posting stuff that makes sense almost every trade here is laughable who really believes the Lakers can get Dwight and Paul in one massive trade or taking this Iggy rumor and turning into the # 2, Love and every other young player on the Wolves and Sixers. Please, get real Laker fans.

Jetset · Post #1353 » by **Jetset** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:42 pm

Who are you talking to?

LApwnd · Post #1354 » by **LApwnd** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:25 pm

Jetset wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
Jetset wrote:I'd rather have the #2 pick than Iguodala tbh. If we can trade Odom to Philly, Iguodala to Minn, and the #2 to us, I'd be more than estatic. We'd essentially be getting the #2 just for Odom, then we could draft Knight and still have the core of Pau and Bynum to contend with.

dude we be the laughing stock of league if we took Knight with #2, even if he is a player of need.

How so? In a draft where there is no sure fire prospect you need to draft off potential. Derrick Williams is nothing but a sober version of Michael Beasley. You draft on potential down the road in a weak draft such as this, and Knight has higher potential than everyone else not named Kyrie Irving. Plus he plays at the position in which we have a glaring need of so it's a no brained who should be selected. And Utah is planning on drafting him 3rd overall, so not really sure how we'd be the "laughing stock" when he could going off the board immediately after the 2nd pick.

you the only one who thinks that way, 1st of I haven't heard one analyst compaare Dwill to Beasly and 2ndly Kemba Walker has had as more hype then Knight so isn't even the 2nd best PG.

Penberthy · Post #1355 » by **Penberthy** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:08 pm

^^^ +1

KingLakers · Post #1356 » by **KingLakers** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:40 pm

In general, all the people with really nonsense trade ideas.

Jetset · Post #1357 » by **Jetset** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:43 pm

Actually I'm not the only one who feels that way. I can tell you haven't paid attention to any of college basketball throughout the past season. All you're doing is basing an opinion on what Chad Ford tells you and from the highlights they show of him. The guy is nothing but an explosive tweener, he's overrated from his NCAA tourney in which he tore through Duke. He's a good player but he's not as good as Doug Gottlieb and Chad Ford are trying to paint him off as. And since you follow nothing but what ESPN tells you, I'm surprised you didn't hear what Jay Bilas had to day about Knight. He said that Kemba right now is the better player, but Knight has the higher potential. Knight will have the better career when it's all said and done, you watch. And since you feel that I'm the only one that feels that way about Williams, you need to go online on some draft websites and see what they say. You're dealing with someone who follows the NCAA and NBA drafts religiously, please don't ever come at me with some regurgitated Chad Ford/ESPN overhyped bullcrap ever again.

Gek · Post #1358 » by **Gek** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:50 pm

KingLakers wrote:In general, all the people with really nonsense trade ideas.

No one said the #2 and Iggy to LA, his trade proposal was a way to get the #2 to LA by doing a 3 team trade.

I've seen Kemba play in person a few times in the past two years and have seen a lot of his games on the Big East network and I wouldn't want him as my team's point guard. He could match up at the "point" but would need a facilitator along with him. There is nothing wrong with taking Knight at #2, but I would probably swap the #2 for #4 or #5 and pick up another asset and then take which ever point guard is left.

I'd also hope that Philly takes Odom and Walton for Iggy.

EnigmaticProblem · Post #1359 » by **EnigmaticProblem** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:00 pm

I'm a Knight fan. . . The kid has won me over.

LApwnd · Post #1360 » by **LApwnd** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:11 pm

Jetset wrote:Actually I'm not the only one who feels that way. I can tell you haven't paid attention to any of college basketball throughout the past season. All you're doing is basing an opinion on what Chad Ford tells you and from the highlights they show of him. The guy is nothing but an explosive tweener, he's overrated from his NCAA tourney in which he tore through Duke. He's a good player but he's not as good as Doug Gottlieb and Chad Ford are trying to paint him off as. And since you follow nothing but what ESPN tells you, I'm surprised you didn't hear what Jay Bilas had to day about Knight. He said that Kemba right now is the better player, but Knight has the higher potential. Knight will have the better career when it's all said and done, you watch. And since you feel that I'm the only one that feels that way about Williams, you need to go online on some draft websites and see what they say. You're dealing with someone who follows the NCAA and NBA drafts religiously, please don't ever come at me with some regurgitated Chad Ford/ESPN overhyped bullcrap ever again.

then why aren't you working for ESPN? :-?

Like I said, you pick Knight at #2 and people will laugh at you for years to come until he actually becomes BETTER then Walker/Wiliams. Potential is dangerous word my friend, as Odom, he had that lable for the 1st 7yrs of his nba career.