Lakers Targets - Free Agent Class 2020

[zimpy27]

I don't know if Lakers will bring anyone in.

Dwight and Rondo may need to be re-signed and they may eat into the MLE and BAE.

Assuming AD stays put i think the major question is whether or not they're going to be chasing Giannis in 2021. They do have the cap space to make that happen, although it would requite Lebron to take a pretty heavy paucut in 2021 in order to max out Giannis.

From Lebron's point of view that would still be a pretty wise move because he could make up that money on the back-end of his deal due to bird rights and it would also allow him to prolong his career pretty much as long as he wants being a third option.

Imagine that, though. Giannis, AD and Lebron.

That would be crazy but the wrong way to go in my opinion:
- Lakers should be in the asset accumulation phase, where they start increasing the total salary by 20-30m. They should stay over the cap to receive the full MLE.
- Lakers have a number of expiring deals that would be very valuable for teams trying to clear capspace to sign guys in 2021. That allows them to get some decent players through midseason trades from teams looking to tank.
- If Lakers cut players to make space for Giannis tthen they have to build the team around these 3 players with vet min contracts. They will lose all the guys they have now including Caruso, KCP, Dwight.

- Kuzma, THT, pick 29 would be decent pieces to trade with salary to pick someone up.
- Trading Bradley, McGee, Kuzma could be enough to get a guy like Fournier if Magic choose to tank.

[DanishLakerFan]

I don't know if Lakers will bring anyone in.

Dwight and Rondo may need to be re-signed and they may eat into the MLE and BAE.

Assuming AD stays put i think the major question is whether or not they're going to be chasing Giannis in 2021. They do have the cap space to make that happen, although it would requite Lebron to take a pretty heavy paucut in 2021 in order to max out Giannis.

From Lebron's point of view that would still be a pretty wise move because he could make up that money on the back-end of his deal due to bird rights and it would also allow him to prolong his career pretty much as long as he wants being a third option.

Imagine that, though. Giannis, AD and Lebron.

That would be foolish in my opinion:
- Lakers should be in the asset accumulation phase, where they start increasing the total salary by 20-30m. They should stay over the cap to receive the full MLE.
- Lakers have a number of expiring deals that would be very valuable for teams trying to clear capspace to sign guys in 2021. That allows them to get some decent players through trades.
- If Lakers cut players to make space for Giannis tthen they have to build the team around these 3 players with vet min contracts. They will lose all the guys they have now including caruso, THT, KCP, Dwight, etc

I dont think going after a two-time MVP and current DPOY is something than can be considered foolish?

What would be foolish is to take ourselves out of that race by spending on the wrong guys at the wrong time.

What they should do is to convince Rondo and KCP to opt in, re-sign Dwight on a 1yr deal and fill out the roster based on the needs we have using veteran min. deals. That way we get to be in the mix for Giannis, while still competing for a title right now.

[zimpy27]

Assuming AD stays put i think the major question is whether or not they're going to be chasing Giannis in 2021. They do have the cap space to make that happen, although it would requite Lebron to take a pretty heavy paucut in 2021 in order to max out Giannis.

From Lebron's point of view that would still be a pretty wise move because he could make up that money on the back-end of his deal due to bird rights and it would also allow him to prolong his career pretty much as long as he wants being a third option.

Imagine that, though. Giannis, AD and Lebron.

That would be foolish in my opinion:
- Lakers should be in the asset accumulation phase, where they start increasing the total salary by 20-30m. They should stay over the cap to receive the full MLE.
- Lakers have a number of expiring deals that would be very valuable for teams trying to clear capspace to sign guys in 2021. That allows them to get some decent players through trades.
- If Lakers cut players to make space for Giannis tthen they have to build the team around these 3 players with vet min contracts. They will lose all the guys they have now including caruso, THT, KCP, Dwight, etc

I dont think going after a two-time MVP and current DPOY is something than can be considered foolish?

What would be foolish is to take ourselves out of that race by spending on the wrong guys at the wrong time.

What they should do is to convince Rondo and KCP to opt in, re-sign Dwight on a 1yr deal and fill out the roster based on the needs we have using veteran min. deals. That way we get to be in the mix for Giannis, while still competing for a title right now.

Yeah I edited my post, you must have hit reply earlier. It's not foolish but I think it's the wrong path because Lakers have a good set of pieces. I'd like to see them accumulate pieces and then trade the expiring pieces they don't need for better players.

[DanishLakerFan]

That would be foolish in my opinion:
- Lakers should be in the asset accumulation phase, where they start increasing the total salary by 20-30m. They should stay over the cap to receive the full MLE.
- Lakers have a number of expiring deals that would be very valuable for teams trying to clear capspace to sign guys in 2021. That allows them to get some decent players through trades.
- If Lakers cut players to make space for Giannis tthen they have to build the team around these 3 players with vet min contracts. They will lose all the guys they have now including caruso, THT, KCP, Dwight, etc

I dont think going after a two-time MVP and current DPOY is something than can be considered foolish?

What would be foolish is to take ourselves out of that race by spending on the wrong guys at the wrong time.

What they should do is to convince Rondo and KCP to opt in, re-sign Dwight on a 1yr deal and fill out the roster based on the needs we have using veteran min. deals. That way we get to be in the mix for Giannis, while still competing for a title right now.

Yeah I edited my post, you must have hit reply earlier. It's not foolish but I think it's the wrong path because Lakers have a good set of pieces. I'd like to see them accumulate pieces and then trade the expiring pieces they don't need for better players.

It's essentially in the hands of Lebron and Giannis and if they want to make that happen it will and depending on what kind of contract Lebron is looking for in the long run it's quite possible to keep a couple of the current guys around as well. Also, i'm sure the Lakers will keep Kostas Antetokounmpo on the books on a two-way in order to get some inside info in that regard.

Another reason to keep options open is that the Clippers essentially could do the same. Kawhi and PG are on the books for about 37M each so if they clear the rest of the books - which is relatively easy - they could offer Giannis a max straight up. Which isn't a nice thing to think about.

[mademan]

I dont think going after a two-time MVP and current DPOY is something than can be considered foolish?

What would be foolish is to take ourselves out of that race by spending on the wrong guys at the wrong time.

What they should do is to convince Rondo and KCP to opt in, re-sign Dwight on a 1yr deal and fill out the roster based on the needs we have using veteran min. deals. That way we get to be in the mix for Giannis, while still competing for a title right now.

Yeah I edited my post, you must have hit reply earlier. It's not foolish but I think it's the wrong path because Lakers have a good set of pieces. I'd like to see them accumulate pieces and then trade the expiring pieces they don't need for better players.

It's essentially in the hands of Lebron and Giannis and if they want to make that happen it will and depending on what kind of contract Lebron is looking for in the long run it's quite possible to keep a couple of the current guys around as well. Also, i'm sure the Lakers will keep Kostas Antetokounmpo on the books on a two-way in order to get some inside info in that regard.

Another reason to keep options open is that the Clippers essentially could do the same. Kawhi and PG are on the books for about 37M each so if they clear the rest of the books - which is relatively easy - they could offer Giannis a max straight up. Which isn't a nice thing to think about.

Kawhi and PG are in their primes. Lebron's old as dirt. He's more likely to take a paycut than them.

And Clippers arent in a position this summer to keep 2021 flexibility. Theyre gonna be throwing everything at the wall to try and win next year

[AGAVE]

What about Danilo Gallinari? He sounds like a replacement for Danny Red.

No. 1 trade option, if we can make it happen.

Gallo is a free agent this off season. It's possible.

If Gallinari could get into shape he may be a consideration.
He just seems lazy to me; whether it be physically and/or mentally.
If he can stay in a system long enough to care then maybe his game might follow that.
I like him.
Just not sure if he would embrace the situation

[lazybatman]

No. 1 trade option, if we can make it happen.

Gallo is a free agent this off season. It's possible.

If Gallinari could get into shape he may be a consideration.
He just seems lazy to me; whether it be physically and/or mentally.
If he can stay in a system long enough to care then maybe his game might follow that.
I like him.
Just not sure if he would embrace the situation

Lebron makes bigger problems disappear.. don't worry about that.

[Kilroy]

We need a guy who sees the writing on the wall that this could very well be a team in the finals for the next 4/5 years and wants to be a part of that as our 3rd guy, and is willing to delay his max contract a few years to do it... We need a young guy who can team up with AD for the future...
Guys like Gallinari may be nice backup options, but I don't think our primary choices are obvious right now. Lots of stuff is going to happen at the trade deadline this season I think and then there's going to buy-outs etc...

[Michael Lucky]

With all these two year contracts we're probably going to roll with a very similar roster next year. Having said down, i'm done with Kuzma, i just don't know if he has any trade value left.

[zimpy27]

We need a guy who sees the writing on the wall that this could very well be a team in the finals for the next 4/5 years and wants to be a part of that as our 3rd guy, and is willing to delay his max contract a few years to do it... We need a young guy who can team up with AD for the future...
Guys like Gallinari may be nice backup options, but I don't think our primary choices are obvious right now. Lots of stuff is going to happen at the trade deadline this season I think and then there's going to buy-outs etc...

Oladipo seems like a great fit but unsure of health or how to get him.

Fournier has had a great season and would fit very well on this roster. Not sure how coveted he is with the Magic.

I like the idea of trading Danny Green to Mavs for Seth Curry and Delon Wright. Those guys are.a bit close to ADs age.

[Vae Victus]

When the Lakers re-sign AD, is he eligible for the Veteran's Designation? That's like an extra 5 mil per year, which is sizable, since thats likely the difference of Lebron taking a 10ml paycut vs a 5mil paycut, if they try to lure over a 3rd superstar in 2021 FA.

[LAKESHOW]

I remember when we acquired Danny Green, many were sayin, YES, we have our sharpshooter, our lethal perimeter guy, our #3.

[lazybatman]

Yeah I edited my post, you must have hit reply earlier. It's not foolish but I think it's the wrong path because Lakers have a good set of pieces. I'd like to see them accumulate pieces and then trade the expiring pieces they don't need for better players.

It's essentially in the hands of Lebron and Giannis and if they want to make that happen it will and depending on what kind of contract Lebron is looking for in the long run it's quite possible to keep a couple of the current guys around as well. Also, i'm sure the Lakers will keep Kostas Antetokounmpo on the books on a two-way in order to get some inside info in that regard.

Another reason to keep options open is that the Clippers essentially could do the same. Kawhi and PG are on the books for about 37M each so if they clear the rest of the books - which is relatively easy - they could offer Giannis a max straight up. Which isn't a nice thing to think about.

Kawhi and PG are in their primes. Lebron's old as dirt. He's more likely to take a paycut than them.

And Clippers arent in a position this summer to keep 2021 flexibility. Theyre gonna be throwing everything at the wall to try and win next year

Clippers have way better assets than the Lakers to trade - Pat Bev, Lou, Harrell, maybe PG13, Zuby, Shamet & Green.

Our boys, old and useless vet minimums.

[lazybatman]

FYI-
https://sports.yahoo.com/buddy-hield-luke-waltons-phone-calls-kings-trade-request-sixers-nba-003626814.html

[LAKESHOW]

Held got benched by Walton? Man he must have problems. Walton throws anybody out there.

[Hoopz Afrik]

Held got benched by Walton? Man he must have problems. Walton throws anybody out there.

In the few Kings game I've seen this szn it's almost like Buddy doesn't even try on the defensive end.

[DanishLakerFan]

It's essentially in the hands of Lebron and Giannis and if they want to make that happen it will and depending on what kind of contract Lebron is looking for in the long run it's quite possible to keep a couple of the current guys around as well. Also, i'm sure the Lakers will keep Kostas Antetokounmpo on the books on a two-way in order to get some inside info in that regard.

Another reason to keep options open is that the Clippers essentially could do the same. Kawhi and PG are on the books for about 37M each so if they clear the rest of the books - which is relatively easy - they could offer Giannis a max straight up. Which isn't a nice thing to think about.

Kawhi and PG are in their primes. Lebron's old as dirt. He's more likely to take a paycut than them.

And Clippers arent in a position this summer to keep 2021 flexibility. Theyre gonna be throwing everything at the wall to try and win next year

Clippers have way better assets than the Lakers to trade - Pat Bev, Lou, Harrell, maybe PG13, Zuby, Shamet & Green.

Our boys, old and useless vet minimums.

Sure. They could potentially trade for Giannis, but he would have to let everyone know that he's signing there for that to happen.

But if he wants to sign somewhere as a free agent they have to cut the salaries of those guys.

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[lazybatman]

Kawhi and PG are in their primes. Lebron's old as dirt. He's more likely to take a paycut than them.

And Clippers arent in a position this summer to keep 2021 flexibility. Theyre gonna be throwing everything at the wall to try and win next year

Clippers have way better assets than the Lakers to trade - Pat Bev, Lou, Harrell, maybe PG13, Zuby, Shamet & Green.

Our boys, old and useless vet minimums.

Sure. They could potentially trade for Giannis, but he would have to let everyone know that he's signing there for that to happen.

But if he wants to sign somewhere as a free agent they have to cut the salaries of those guys.

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Giannis said he's not going anywhere this year. I believe him to be a man of his word.

But there's a ton of better options out there.

[DanishLakerFan]

Clippers have way better assets than the Lakers to trade - Pat Bev, Lou, Harrell, maybe PG13, Zuby, Shamet & Green.

Our boys, old and useless vet minimums.

Sure. They could potentially trade for Giannis, but he would have to let everyone know that he's signing there for that to happen.

But if he wants to sign somewhere as a free agent they have to cut the salaries of those guys.

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Giannis said he's not going anywhere this year. I believe him to be a man of his word.

But there's a ton of better options out there.

He's under contract and heading into the playoffs what else is he going to say.

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[king_james_vers]

Again, FVV and Bertans.

There is a plethora of fillers to plug around the two stars for Pelinka. Plenty of bench bigs available, a selection of swing men defenders, some young guards, some old.

Dragic is old.

All you've told us is that you want FVV, but you keep ignoring the enormous obstacles for getting him.

FVV can't sign here as a free agent, we don't have the cap room.
FVV wants to stay with the Raptors, and the Raptors want to retain him.

The only way we can get FVV is through a sign-and-trade with matching salaries sent out to Raptors.

Why are the Raptors, the #2 seed in the east, going to trade away one of their core players?
What are the Lakers going to send out in a trade that would satisfy the Raptors?

Of course I'd love him on the Lakers, but it's just not happening. It's a complete fantasy, it's virtually impossible.