Official Transaction Ideas thread

[Slava]

Gasol is an all star in his prime.

Best time to trade him.

Sell high.

Iguodala can do everything that Westbrook can do ... he just hasn't been been nurtured like Westbrook and has never played with a player of Durant's quality ... enter Kobe.

We can trade Kobe, Odom and Artest as well with that argument.

[ALL HAIL]

Gasol is an all star in his prime.

Best time to trade him.

Sell high.

Iguodala can do everything that Westbrook can do ... he just hasn't been been nurtured like Westbrook and has never played with a player of Durant's quality ... enter Kobe.

We can trade Kobe, Odom and Artest as well with that argument.

If I had a team with Roy behind Kobe, Blair behind Odom, and Batum behind Artest, I'd consider them too if it would make the team better.

Gasol is replaceable.

The beauty of it is we already have his replacement on the roster.

The Lakers can use one of their two centers to fetch a dynamic PG.

[VIPER8382]

If I had a team with Roy behind Kobe, Blair behind Odom, and Batum behind Artest, I'd consider them too if it would make the team better.

Gasol is replaceable.

The beauty of it is we already have his replacement on the roster.

The Lakers can use one of their two centers to fetch a dynamic PG.

A lot of that makes sense, but then you want to trade Gasol for a SF who happens to be an above average playmaker, not the dynamic PG you state at the end there. The problem is he isn't a very good shooter, and while he looks fast and agile guarding 3's he may not look that way trying to check Aaron Brooks. Igoudala may be better than anything we have at PG, but not good enough to pay him all of that money and downgrade from Gasol to Brand. Your idea was creative, and I think it is fairly close on value (we do unload Walton at least), yet I think we still lose on value (it would take their first to even the value in my mind, but we would still say no), and the fit just isn't close. If we trade Gasol it will be with a clear value advantage, and a clear fit advantage. I think there could be a deal here, but it needs to be a 3 way deal with us getting Brand, Philly's pick, and a good fit at PG, and Iggy heading elsewhere.

[ALL HAIL]

Fair enough Viper.

I obviously see things differently though.

Iguodala is as quick and athletic as Westbrook. He most definitely can guard PGs just as well as Westbrook does.

As far as shooting, Iguodala would obviously get alot better playing off of Kobe and an inside presence (reference Trevor Ariza).

Value wise, I agree, but only because Iguodala's stock is down.

If you were to throw in Westbrook's name instead of Iguodala, everyone would go crazy with excitement ... why? -- Because Westbrook's the flavor of the month; his stock is high.

To me Iguodala and Westbrook are the same damn player. If you look at it like that you might see the valuse issue differently.

Fair post though Vipe.

[VIPER8382]

Even if you could convince everyone they are the same player, which they simply aren't, there are 2 undeniable differences. Those are age, and money (we are talking around $20 million over 2 years).

I don't see how you can say that they are the same though. Westbrook is becoming a 20/10 PG before our eyes, playing in an offense that requires a true PG. It is one thing to say that Iguodala can be a triangle PG, but to say he is the same as Westbrook is just crazy. Iguodala is a playmaking G-F, not to be confused with any true PG's. However it is true that we don't need a true PG. I just still don't see Iguodala as the answer, and as long as we run the triangle there are also much better options than Westbrook.

[ALL HAIL]

Westbrook vs. Iguodala

Passing - EVEN (slight edge to Westbrook)
Athleticism - EVEN
Jump Shot - EVEN (slight edge to Iguodala)
Ball Handling - EVEN
Defense - EVEN
Leadership - EVEN
Intangibles - EVEN
Rebounding - EVEN (slight edge to Westbrook)
Versatility - EVEN
Effeciency - EVEN (slight edge to Iguodala)

Same damn player. I don't understand how you can't see that.

[Teen Girl Squad]

Just came in here to announce my position as the captain of the Jimmer Fredette bandwagon as our pick in this draft. Very impressed by his play. Excellent sharpshooter with some good hands and passing.

[daddyfivestar]

Just came in here to announce my position as the captain of the Jimmer Fredette bandwagon as our pick in this draft. Very impressed by his play. Excellent sharpshooter with some good hands and passing.

Put me on that bandwagon. Jimmest has serious game. Had he remained anonymous probably would've been there at 44 ish for LA... now, not so much.

[Slava]

Westbrook vs. Iguodala

Passing - EVEN (slight edge to Westbrook)
Athleticism - EVEN
Jump Shot - EVEN (slight edge to Iguodala)
Ball Handling - EVEN
Defense - EVEN
Leadership - EVEN
Intangibles - EVEN
Rebounding - EVEN (slight edge to Westbrook)
Versatility - EVEN
Effeciency - EVEN (slight edge to Iguodala)

Same damn player. I don't understand how you can't see that.

If you seriously think Westbrook and Iguodola is the same player then you have no clue what you're talking about and for the last time Iggy is not a PG.

[dockingsched]

iggy can't even guard slow pg's, much less the type of pg's that roam the west.

[Asianiac_24]

We don't need Iggy. All we need is a PG who could play at least average defense, make entry passes, and shoot. THATS ALL

[ShowtimeFan]

How about Bynum for Chris Paul?

[larry14r]

How about Bynum for Chris Paul?

We don't have a prayer in getting Chirs Paul so please quit.

[Ced]

You guys should try sign Redick in the off-season. He'd be a great perimeter threat, and he can play average to good D now, too. Much better than Fisher anyway. Plus the guys has balls.

[Magicontinues]

You guys should try sign Redick in the off-season. He'd be a great perimeter threat, and he can play average to good D now, too. Much better than Fisher anyway. Plus the guys has balls.

A borderline bench scrub is going to start for the world champion Los Angelas Lakers? I don't think so.

[Ced]

You guys should try sign Redick in the off-season. He'd be a great perimeter threat, and he can play average to good D now, too. Much better than Fisher anyway. Plus the guys has balls.

A borderline bench scrub is going to start for the world champion Los Angelas Lakers? I don't think so.

Your loss.

[semi-sentient]

I've warmed up to the idea of bringing in Redick. We wouldn't blow our entire MLE on him and his defense, dating back to the Finals, is far superior to anything I've seen from Fisher or Farmar. He has consistently hovered around 40% from downtown (career 39%) and rarely turns the ball over or makes stupid plays, so he seems like a good option considering there isn't much out there. Players tend to come here and have great years, and with all the open looks he'd be getting I'd be pretty confident saying that he becomes our best 3-point shooter and possibly breaks the 40% mark, which would be something we've lacked for a while now.

He also has some good playoff experience, which is always a plus in my book. I never discount what a player picks up by reaching and playing in the NBA Finals. That's a big time plus over players that have yet to sniff that type of pressure. He did shoot nearly 50% against us, although his opportunities were somewhat limited. I just recall him playing some really excellent defense against Kobe, and if he can do that for us then it's already a massive improvement over what we have.

Kyle Korver is another guy we should be looking at, but only after we get our PG. He's shooting lights out this year, and I recall how much Utah improved once he was traded to them. I can't say I've followed the Jazz much this season, but in past seasons he made a big impact for them. He's just not a guy that you can EVER leave open, and he'd be a solid backup to Kobe. Basically, he'd give us the kind of shooting that we've always prayed Vujacic would give us. We need players that specialize in something, and he fits the bill. You look at the guys we have on our bench and you wonder, what are they consistently good at? Nothing? Korver would be our new 3-point specialist right off the bat, and it would be very welcome after the crap we've witnessed from our 3-point "specialists" this season.

These are both guys that I think can be had and I'd like to see us pursue.

Also, I don't think putting Bynum in any trade scenarios is realistic. Jim is in charge of basketball decisions, and since Bynum is his project, we can't seriously entertain the idea of him approving a trade. That leaves Gasol, who we just signed long term for a hefty figure, so the only thing I'd go for is a sign/trade for Bosh, which just doesn't seem like something that would happen.

Other than that, we can keep Farmar for one more season (so we can use our full MLE on a PG) and trade him with Sasha before the deadline for something serviceable, if the above ideas don't work out.

Powell can get to packing. He's become incredibly useless and we can replace him in the draft.

PS: Mike Miller would be great behind Kobe if we could swing some sort of sign/trade. I don't think he can be had for MLE.

[ahwi_quacoe]

Mike Miller can't guard anybody in the league ...... and his jumpshot is not what it used to be ...neither are his knees..............
and as for Korver... if you want a team that is any softer on D then you might as well call us the Los Angeles Charmins or something with him on the team.. The only thing he can do is shoot .....he can't handle the rock at all nor play a lick of defense..........

[what would jack bauer do?]

yeah mike miller doesn't look like he did 3 years ago. He's still pretty young but his body hasn't held up well, he's slower less aggressive and just doesn't look like he has much left in the tank. Kind of sad that he declined so fast and young.

[semi-sentient]

Mike Miller can't guard anybody in the league ...... and his jumpshot is not what it used to be ...neither are his knees..............
and as for Korver... if you want a team that is any softer on D then you might as well call us the Los Angeles Charmins or something with him on the team.. The only thing he can do is shoot .....he can't handle the rock at all nor play a lick of defense..........

What do you want, a great defender at every position? That's not even close to realistic.

We don't have any competent defenders coming in off the bench, and what makes it worse is that none of them are competent shooters either. At least with Korver you get a guy that WILL hit shots, and at worst fit right in with the 2nd unit's level of defense.

I'll take your word on Mike Miller, but I'd still like to get Redick and Korver for MLE. Two solid shooters, and Redick is at least an above average defender from what I've seen. Korver isn't going to get a ton of playing time anyway, and if he's the worst of our problems defensively then we've still got bigger issues. Korver isn't any worse than Vujacic on defense (and Brown isn't that much better), but at least he'll hit some damn shots.