2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

[Michael Lucky]

If you LOVE Ball or Jackson you don't get cute and draft them at #2... If they trade down, they want DSJ or Tatum... I have a funny feeling that Russell will go to Philly for the #3 & #28 & the Lakeshow take Ball & Jackson... Magic is a "locker room" guy & Russell isn't his guy... Magic willl put his stamp on the team at the draft boys... The new era starts next Thursday...

Do you "Believe in Magic Baby"...

My thought exactly, but I went on the Phily board and ask them if they would take Dloading for the 3rd pick and they all said no way. I think Russell's value is not as high as we Lakers fans see and this is not a good thing. Maybe adding the 28th pic would make the deal happen.

The last thing i would do is use people on this board as an evaluation of what Russell's value is. I would be utterly shocked if Jackson ended up being a better player than Russell.

[Pythagoras]

If you LOVE Ball or Jackson you don't get cute and draft them at #2... If they trade down, they want DSJ or Tatum... I have a funny feeling that Russell will go to Philly for the #3 & #28 & the Lakeshow take Ball & Jackson... Magic is a "locker room" guy & Russell isn't his guy... Magic willl put his stamp on the team at the draft boys... The new era starts next Thursday...

Do you "Believe in Magic Baby"...

My thought exactly, but I went on the Phily board and ask them if they would take Dloading for the 3rd pick and they all said no way. I think Russell's value is not as high as we Lakers fans see and this is not a good thing. Maybe adding the 28th pic would make the deal happen.

The last thing i would do is use people on this board as an evaluation of what Russell's value is. I would be utterly shocked if Jackson ended up being a better player than Russell.

Last year around this time, you would have found a LOT of people on this board who would have tried to peg a guy like Okafor or Mudiay as having comparable if not more value than D'Lo. So yeah, I'm gonna agree with your sentiment.

[Renegade_H]

If you LOVE Ball or Jackson you don't get cute and draft them at #2... If they trade down, they want DSJ or Tatum... I have a funny feeling that Russell will go to Philly for the #3 & #28 & the Lakeshow take Ball & Jackson... Magic is a "locker room" guy & Russell isn't his guy... Magic willl put his stamp on the team at the draft boys... The new era starts next Thursday...

Do you "Believe in Magic Baby"...

My thought exactly, but I went on the Phily board and ask them if they would take Dloading for the 3rd pick and they all said no way. I think Russell's value is not as high as we Lakers fans see and this is not a good thing. Maybe adding the 28th pic would make the deal happen.

Philly is building a defensive juggernaut. Russell does not help that at all. Reason a lot of us want Jackson or Isaac is to maintain that defensive presence. BS/Covington/Embiid is a solid D core. Adding Russell is a huge weak link.

[Michael Lucky]

If you LOVE Ball or Jackson you don't get cute and draft them at #2... If they trade down, they want DSJ or Tatum... I have a funny feeling that Russell will go to Philly for the #3 & #28 & the Lakeshow take Ball & Jackson... Magic is a "locker room" guy & Russell isn't his guy... Magic willl put his stamp on the team at the draft boys... The new era starts next Thursday...

Do you "Believe in Magic Baby"...

My thought exactly, but I went on the Phily board and ask them if they would take Dloading for the 3rd pick and they all said no way. I think Russell's value is not as high as we Lakers fans see and this is not a good thing. Maybe adding the 28th pic would make the deal happen.

Philly is building a defensive juggernaut. Russell does not help that at all. Reason a lot of us want Jackson or Isaac is to maintain that defensive presence. BS/Covington/Embiid is a solid D core. Adding Russell is a huge weak link.

Since when is Ben Simmons a defensive presence? He played even less D at LSU than Fultz played at Washington.

[Pythagoras]

As a side note, I can't believe Philly fans are still banking on Embiid. It's blatantly obvious to me at this point that his body will never hold up over the course of an NBA season.

[Renegade_H]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Simmons-61928/

Defensively, Simmons has elite instincts and anticipation skills, as evidenced by the terrific 12.9 rebounds, 2.1 steals and .9 blocks he averages per-40 minutes. He sees loose balls coming off the rim in an uncanny way, and is able to react and go grab rebounds before anyone else. When engaged and motivated, Simmons shows the ability to defend a variety of different positions on the floor, moving his feet well enough to stay in front of wings and even guards, while possessing the strength needed to slow down most power forwards in the post.

The problem is that Simmons rarely plays up to his full potential on this end of the floor. He often looks very lazy here, not making any effort whatsoever to close out on shooters and avoiding contact and physicality in a very concerning way when challenged by opposing players. He often resorts to swiping down at the ball aimlessly in hopes of generating a steal, instead of getting in a fundamentally sound stance and trying to stop his man from scoring.

While the red flags around Simmons' defense were there from the moment he stepped on the floor at the college level, as LSU's season went on, he gradually gave less and less effort here, even in his team's most important games, which raised serious question marks about his competitiveness in NBA circles. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Simmons-61928/ ©DraftExpress

So basically as the season wore on.... he got lazy.

As a side note, I can't believe Philly fans are still banking on Embiid. It's blatantly obvious to me at this point that his body will never hold up over the course of an NBA season.

Hes worth the risk. Hes everything you want in a Center. You just don't toss him aside because hes been injured. We weren't ready to win and, until we are, no need to rush.

[Michael Lucky]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Simmons-61928/

Defensively, Simmons has elite instincts and anticipation skills, as evidenced by the terrific 12.9 rebounds, 2.1 steals and .9 blocks he averages per-40 minutes. He sees loose balls coming off the rim in an uncanny way, and is able to react and go grab rebounds before anyone else. When engaged and motivated, Simmons shows the ability to defend a variety of different positions on the floor, moving his feet well enough to stay in front of wings and even guards, while possessing the strength needed to slow down most power forwards in the post.

The problem is that Simmons rarely plays up to his full potential on this end of the floor. He often looks very lazy here, not making any effort whatsoever to close out on shooters and avoiding contact and physicality in a very concerning way when challenged by opposing players. He often resorts to swiping down at the ball aimlessly in hopes of generating a steal, instead of getting in a fundamentally sound stance and trying to stop his man from scoring.

While the red flags around Simmons' defense were there from the moment he stepped on the floor at the college level, as LSU's season went on, he gradually gave less and less effort here, even in his team's most important games, which raised serious question marks about his competitiveness in NBA circles. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Simmons-61928/ ©DraftExpress

So basically as the season wore on.... he got lazy.

never said he didn't have the tools to be a good defender. But you can say that about many players in the league that never bother to put up much effort on that end.

[AcecardZ]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Simmons-61928/

Defensively, Simmons has elite instincts and anticipation skills, as evidenced by the terrific 12.9 rebounds, 2.1 steals and .9 blocks he averages per-40 minutes. He sees loose balls coming off the rim in an uncanny way, and is able to react and go grab rebounds before anyone else. When engaged and motivated, Simmons shows the ability to defend a variety of different positions on the floor, moving his feet well enough to stay in front of wings and even guards, while possessing the strength needed to slow down most power forwards in the post.

The problem is that Simmons rarely plays up to his full potential on this end of the floor. He often looks very lazy here, not making any effort whatsoever to close out on shooters and avoiding contact and physicality in a very concerning way when challenged by opposing players. He often resorts to swiping down at the ball aimlessly in hopes of generating a steal, instead of getting in a fundamentally sound stance and trying to stop his man from scoring.

While the red flags around Simmons' defense were there from the moment he stepped on the floor at the college level, as LSU's season went on, he gradually gave less and less effort here, even in his team's most important games, which raised serious question marks about his competitiveness in NBA circles. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ben-Simmons-61928/ ©DraftExpress

So basically as the season wore on.... he got lazy.

As a side note, I can't believe Philly fans are still banking on Embiid. It's blatantly obvious to me at this point that his body will never hold up over the course of an NBA season.

Hes worth the risk. Hes everything you want in a Center. You just don't toss him aside because hes been injured. We weren't ready to win and, until we are, no need to rush.

Philly will be quite the team if they can ever get all those draft picks healthy but I dunno man. Aren't you at least a little bit worried that might never happen?

[Renegade_H]

Philly will be quite the team if they can ever get all those draft picks healthy but I dunno man. Aren't you at least a little bit worried that might never happen?

Of course. But thanks to Hinkie, we have plenty of ammo to continue until we do have our healthy team. Richard Holmes is getting better each year and I love that he can be a backup to Embiid.

I might add, hinkie did want to take Porzingis but Zingers agent and Philly Owners squashed that. What might have been....

[Mirjalovic]

Philly will be quite the team if they can ever get all those draft picks healthy but I dunno man. Aren't you at least a little bit worried that might never happen?

Of course. But thanks to Hinkie, we have plenty of ammo to continue until we do have our healthy team. Richard Holmes is getting better each year and I love that he can be a backup to Embiid.

I might add, hinkie did want to take Porzingis but Zingers agent and Philly Owners squashed that. What might have been....

and be careful you have Brian Colangelo now.

[Revived]

As a side note, I can't believe Philly fans are still banking on Embiid. It's blatantly obvious to me at this point that his body will never hold up over the course of an NBA season.

People used to say the same thing about Stephen Curry.

[Slava]

As a side note, I can't believe Philly fans are still banking on Embiid. It's blatantly obvious to me at this point that his body will never hold up over the course of an NBA season.

People used to say the same thing about Stephen Curry.

Steph never missed 2 full NBA seasons as well as part of a college season and play 30 odd games in another one. Apples and onions. If you don't understand the injury risk of Embiid, you must be oblivious to it.

[JohnVancouver]

No, that's your own personal twist Michael Lucky.

Wait till tomorrow when they visit Ball, and it's all of a sudden Lakers back on Ball train'!

Yeah I know lol With the rumors all over the place, I'm starting to lean back in them drafting Ball at this point.

It's these peoples jobs. Hearing the Lakers are taking Ball stories 36 days in a row is boring and doesn't produce traffic. Combine that with the 70+ other people covering Lonzo trying to come up with a Lakers-Lonzo story and you got all sorts of fabrications out there.

It's the Content Machine - have ot keep feeding the beast

[Revived]

If you LOVE Ball or Jackson you don't get cute and draft them at #2... If they trade down, they want DSJ or Tatum... I have a funny feeling that Russell will go to Philly for the #3 & #28 & the Lakeshow take Ball & Jackson... Magic is a "locker room" guy & Russell isn't his guy... Magic willl put his stamp on the team at the draft boys... The new era starts next Thursday...

Do you "Believe in Magic Baby"...

You think Russel's worth #3 and #28?

[JohnVancouver]

If we trade down, I'd rather pick Issac than Tatum, Fox or even Jackson. My wish list right now 1. Lonzo 2. Fultz 3. Issac

Watched a lot of film on him and I think Isaac's the real deal, which is why i like looking at some Sacto trade for 5 and 10. Like everyone says, no getting past GSW for a few years so why not collect young talent and let them grow, see what we've got. I had a trade were we got Afflalo, Treke, and McLemore *2,2, nd 1 yr deals) plus the 5 and 10, Kings get 2, JC and MOz/Deng, their pick.

I'd like to give Zoobs and Taril a year platooning at the 5, and keep Zoobs in the gym with Cap learnign the skyhook

[JohnVancouver]

I don't know why everyone thinks that sac is going to give up 5 and 10 in such a deep draft. DJS could (unlikely but still possible) go 10 and he could end up being a franchise cornerstone. I see no incentive for Sac to trade 5 and 10 in this draft. I also see no movement in that regard on the Sac board.

Bear in mind what teh Kings bpard thinks or wants mean zero, just like it does here, at least in terms of what actually happens

[Sixerscan]

How about your GM tells us who you are going to pick?

[TyCobb]

How about your GM tells us who you are going to pick?

It's been Ball since Magic and Rob met with Silver back on March 20th, my friend.

[Slava]

How about your GM tells us who you are going to pick?

Our GM is a recently retired agent. Those guys are two faced as ****, so I expect the right side of his mouth to lie to his left side let alone confide to another team.

[TyCobb]

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