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The #2 Pick

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Who do we pick

Poll ended at Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:33 am

Russell
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Okafor
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46%
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8%
 
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1561 » by Kilroy » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:33 pm

sixerhp3 wrote:Sorry to interrupt but does anyone have proof that jerry west said those things about russell? I looked it up and found nothing.. Hope you guys don't pick him lol


Never seen any mention of it beyond Docs post... I'm skeptical he said it as well. Really want to know exactly where he's "on the record."
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1562 » by BEazy » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:33 pm

At this point I'm happy with either Russell or Okafor. Kinda leaning towards Russell now...
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1563 » by kblo247 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:34 pm

I still so go small at the draft and sign the proven big when there are plenty this summer ... Be our luck Okafor breaks like every other big that entered recently in year 1. I think Russell and. Mudiay both have better and longer careers than Okafor and Towns


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• The Heat, needing to preserve flexibility after re-signing Goran Dragic and potentially Dwyane Wade this summer, are open to trading the 10th pick if it means unloading salary. (Josh McRoberts, for example, is owed $17 million over the next three years.) But with a pick that high in a deep draft, it's a gamble that likely will give Pat Riley pause. "It's a tricky balance," one longtime talent evaluator said. "You have to be careful you don't regret it looking back." Johnson or Frank Kaminsky could be in the mix for Miami there, as well as Sam Dekker and perhaps Willie Cauley-Stein.


If we could turn Kelly, brown, and some lesser picks into 10 I would do it and take wcs or kaminsky. Wcs would shore up our D and kaminsky has shown he can go at towns and Okafor, plus stretch a floor.
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1564 » by dockingsched » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:41 pm

Kilroy wrote:
sixerhp3 wrote:Sorry to interrupt but does anyone have proof that jerry west said those things about russell? I looked it up and found nothing.. Hope you guys don't pick him lol


Never seen any mention of it beyond Docs post... I'm skeptical he said it as well. Really want to know exactly where he's "on the record."

It was last night on ESPN with Tim legler and Michael eaves. Eaves mentioned that the week prior he spent some time with West and that West mentioned, on the record, that Russell was the best player in the draft and making all those al star teams.
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1565 » by LApwnd » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:47 pm

kblo247 wrote:I still so go small at the draft and sign the proven big when there are plenty this summer ... Be our luck Okafor breaks like every other big that entered recently in year 1. I think Russell and. Mudiay both have better and longer careers than Okafor and Towns


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• The Heat, needing to preserve flexibility after re-signing Goran Dragic and potentially Dwyane Wade this summer, are open to trading the 10th pick if it means unloading salary. (Josh McRoberts, for example, is owed $17 million over the next three years.) But with a pick that high in a deep draft, it's a gamble that likely will give Pat Riley pause. "It's a tricky balance," one longtime talent evaluator said. "You have to be careful you don't regret it looking back." Johnson or Frank Kaminsky could be in the mix for Miami there, as well as Sam Dekker and perhaps Willie Cauley-Stein.


If we could turn Kelly, brown, and some lesser picks into 10 I would do it and take wcs or kaminsky. Wcs would shore up our D and kaminsky has shown he can go at towns and Okafor, plus stretch a floor.

27th/34th for mario/birdman/10th.....mia saves bout 11-12 mill still gets 2 decent picks back
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1566 » by Kilroy » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:48 pm

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Kilroy wrote:
sixerhp3 wrote:Sorry to interrupt but does anyone have proof that jerry west said those things about russell? I looked it up and found nothing.. Hope you guys don't pick him lol


Never seen any mention of it beyond Docs post... I'm skeptical he said it as well. Really want to know exactly where he's "on the record."

It was last night on ESPN with Tim legler and Michael eaves. Eaves mentioned that the week prior he spent some time with West and that West mentioned, on the record, that Russell was the best player in the draft and making all those al star teams.


I should have clarified that I believed you heard it, I just questioned the context and content of what was actually said. It's interesting that Eaves contends West told him that. West isn't usually that quick to compliment future rookies... Like he doesn't want to put that much pressure on them. Much like what Kupchack does. I think he's gone on record as saying he figured Kobe would be special, but I don't think he ever went that far with it.

But if he said it, that would just make it that much more significant.
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1567 » by kblo247 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:54 pm

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kblo247 wrote:I still so go small at the draft and sign the proven big when there are plenty this summer ... Be our luck Okafor breaks like every other big that entered recently in year 1. I think Russell and. Mudiay both have better and longer careers than Okafor and Towns


Semi related from Ken Berger
• The Heat, needing to preserve flexibility after re-signing Goran Dragic and potentially Dwyane Wade this summer, are open to trading the 10th pick if it means unloading salary. (Josh McRoberts, for example, is owed $17 million over the next three years.) But with a pick that high in a deep draft, it's a gamble that likely will give Pat Riley pause. "It's a tricky balance," one longtime talent evaluator said. "You have to be careful you don't regret it looking back." Johnson or Frank Kaminsky could be in the mix for Miami there, as well as Sam Dekker and perhaps Willie Cauley-Stein.


If we could turn Kelly, brown, and some lesser picks into 10 I would do it and take wcs or kaminsky. Wcs would shore up our D and kaminsky has shown he can go at towns and Okafor, plus stretch a floor.

27th/34th for mario/birdman/10th.....mia saves bout 11-12 mill still gets 2 decent picks back


I rather bite the McRoberts bullet (cheaper) , but Chalmers and Bird expire sooner. I mean if they were willing to do Mario/Bird/10 for something based around Kelly/27/34 and 3mil in cash ... Go for it. It assumes you pick Russell 2 and then go Stein/Kaminsky 10 for me, but its acceptable at least since it leaves you like 10mil in cap space to sign a vet wing or big.
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1568 » by kblo247 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:57 pm

If you're the Lakers, I really don't see how Russell isn't the main target. I've accepted they won't take Mudiay who is the better athlete and defender, but I just don't see how you can't pick Russell. At the very worst you can split all your cap on Danny Green and Tyson Chandler to improve the D. At best you can pay Monroe (if the Sixers for proz then the Knicks go Okafor and won't sign him IMO) who is still young to play C and sign a good wing
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1569 » by LApwnd » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:10 pm

kblo247 wrote:I rather bite the McRoberts bullet (cheaper) , but Chalmers and Bird expire sooner. I mean if they were willing to do Mario/Bird/10 for something based around Kelly/27/34 and 3mil in cash ... Go for it. It assumes you pick Russell 2 and then go Stein/Kaminsky 10 for me, but its acceptable at least since it leaves you like 10mil in cap space to sign a vet wing or big.

Would take Turner over those 2.....he has similar build to wcs but has a solid mid range....think he still can grow taller....would fit bext to ok4/randle or Russell/randle
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1570 » by sixerhp3 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:17 pm

In your guys opinions, what're the odds that the lakers select Russell? I live in LA county and the majority of my friends who are Laker fans think they'll go Okafor. Really wishing the best for both teams.
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1571 » by LApwnd » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:23 pm

sixerhp3 wrote:In your guys opinions, what're the odds that the lakers select Russell? I live in LA county and the majority of my friends who are Laker fans think they'll go Okafor. Really wishing the best for both teams.

50/50....saw a post on fb laker group, okafor was quoted as saying he wouldn't be surprised if he ends up 3rd with phi
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1572 » by Danny Darko » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:40 pm

sixerhp3 wrote:In your guys opinions, what're the odds that the lakers select Russell? I live in LA county and the majority of my friends who are Laker fans think they'll go Okafor. Really wishing the best for both teams.


80% Okafor 20% Russell imo
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1573 » by moonpie » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:51 pm

These next 24 hours are going to be exciting-Lots of wheelin and dealing.
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1574 » by frozt » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:55 pm

Honestly don't mind if we got Russell or Okafor either way. As sad as it is, I feel like Russell my stunted in development because of Kobe/Clarkson if we draft him. I feel like I'm 70/30 for Okafor/Russell
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1575 » by Doormatt » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:22 am

Michael Lucky wrote:You'd think he'd be the consensus number 1 pick then.....


pretty sure hes not because towns is just that good.
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1576 » by Doormatt » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:27 am

Russell is the future

plus we'd get to **** over the sixers which would be funny
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1577 » by Gus McCrae » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:38 am

Kilroy wrote:
sixerhp3 wrote:Sorry to interrupt but does anyone have proof that jerry west said those things about russell? I looked it up and found nothing.. Hope you guys don't pick him lol


Never seen any mention of it beyond Docs post... I'm skeptical he said it as well. Really want to know exactly where he's "on the record."


I tried to google it also and only found Russell winning the jerry west award
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1578 » by moonpie » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:58 am

I feel like it's 50/50 between Okafor/Russell tbh.
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Re: The #2 Pick 

Post#1579 » by Michael Lucky » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:04 am

I'd be pretty shocked if we didn't pick Okafor at #2 tomorrow. I haven't really seen anything indicating that we're going to pick Russell over him.
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The #2 Pick 

Post#1580 » by Ericb5 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:14 am

I'm a Sixer fan, but when I think about who I think the teams ahead of us will draft, I just say to myself, what would I want if I was a fan of those teams?

If I were a Twolves fan I would want Towns because he is a potential two way big man. It isn't by much though, as I could see the rationale for drafting Okafor since he is a guaranteed offensive machine, and they already have a future star in Wiggins.

With the Lakers I just figure that there is no reason not to take Okafor seeing as you guys need a center. It is harder to find great bigs than it is to find great guards. If it doesn't work out very well with Randle then trade Randle.(who I really like btw)

So I have firm preferences for the top two teams if I was a fan of them. As a Sixers fan I actually do not have a firm preference, and that is a weird place to be right now.

I think that Russell is the logical pick, but I have to say that I am REALLY interested in Porzingis. Outside of the two bigs, I think that he is the riskiest player to NOT draft given what he could turn into.

I wish I was more excited about Russell, but I don't think that he is a point guard, and I have doubts about his ability to penetrate and finish as a shooting guard. I would love to have him for sure, but I just am not entirely sold on him in the NBA. Hoping that he turns into another Steph Curry or James Harden doesn't have the greatest odds.




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