We finna get Kyrie-d

[DNP-Old]

My two cents.
Lakers receive: Kyrie and McDermott
Nets receive: Nunn and a 30mTPE
Spurs receive: Westbrook, '27 LAL 1st and '26 1st swap

[Ball so hard]

Lakers receive: Kyrie Irving, Josh Richardson
Spurs receive: Russell Westbrook, 2027 1st (LAL)
Nets receive: 2029 1st (LAL), 2028 pick swap (LAL)

Would bring the Nets $13M under the luxury tax and give them a $36M TPE

Not bad.
I just think it doesn't make sense for the Lakers to give up that many picks for a Kyrie rental, when he clearly is focused on coming here as a free agent anyway...

The Lakers would still have a 1st in 2023 (NOP/LAL), 2024/2025 (whichever doesn't go to NOP), and 2026. A lot can change in a year as we saw with Kawhi Leonard and LeBron is going to be a free agent next summer. Windhorst also just leaked that LeBron "couldn't care less" about the Lakers 2029 1st round pick.

No **** Sherlock. What star player in the later part of their career would care about a draft pick 7 years from now. 7 years from now Lebron will be 43. Windhorst has always struck me as a guy who states the obvious. It’s clear this guy has little, if any sources.

[Ball so hard]

Windhorst also just leaked that LeBron "couldn't care less" about the Lakers 2029 1st round pick.

Well good for him. I don't think Reggie Bush cared about the 2006 Trojans too much either.

This is too many picks. Westbrick sucks....but he's 1 more year. That has value. No other team is interested in Kyrie, as Kyrie is interested in no other team. Sorry, but we're the ones with leverage.....not the other way around. We're only screwing it up by being impatient. Kyrie would be an upgrade over Westbrook, but I doubt it's a title contender given our complete lack of depth, and AD's penchant for missing half a season. So stop giving away picks like their dinner mints.

If we have to wait, then Brooklyn gets to deal with an entire season of bad vibes, locker room cancer, etc etc. And it ends with them getting nothing. AND keeping a bad contract. WE"RE TAKING A BAD CONTRACT.....that aughta be enough. It's time the Lakers stopped getting bent over. Too impatient.

Agree with everything you said. I’m pretty sure Kyrie does not make it past the trade deadline on the Nets roster. There’s even a possibility he gets bought out at some point and joins the Lakers. Look what happened when the Rockets tried to be cute and requested a draft pick + Russ for their thrash… months later he was bought out. I’d send no more than 1 first round pick in a trade for Kyrie. I couldn’t care less what Lebron thinks. He’s looking more and more like a rental anyway so **** him.

[jrj202]

Not bad.
I just think it doesn't make sense for the Lakers to give up that many picks for a Kyrie rental, when he clearly is focused on coming here as a free agent anyway...

The Lakers would still have a 1st in 2023 (NOP/LAL), 2024/2025 (whichever doesn't go to NOP), and 2026. A lot can change in a year as we saw with Kawhi Leonard and LeBron is going to be a free agent next summer. Windhorst also just leaked that LeBron "couldn't care less" about the Lakers 2029 1st round pick.

No **** Sherlock. What star player in the later part of their career would care about a draft pick 7 years from now. 7 years from now Lebron will be 43. Windhorst has always struck me as a guy who states the obvious. It’s clear this guy has little, if any sources.

Windhorst is LeBron's personal media plant, lol.

[bb22]

Windhorst also just leaked that LeBron "couldn't care less" about the Lakers 2029 1st round pick.

Well good for him. I don't think Reggie Bush cared about the 2006 Trojans too much either.

This is too many picks. Westbrick sucks....but he's 1 more year. That has value. No other team is interested in Kyrie, as Kyrie is interested in no other team. Sorry, but we're the ones with leverage.....not the other way around. We're only screwing it up by being impatient. Kyrie would be an upgrade over Westbrook, but I doubt it's a title contender given our complete lack of depth, and AD's penchant for missing half a season. So stop giving away picks like their dinner mints.

If we have to wait, then Brooklyn gets to deal with an entire season of bad vibes, locker room cancer, etc etc. And it ends with them getting nothing. AND keeping a bad contract. WE"RE TAKING A BAD CONTRACT.....that aughta be enough. It's time the Lakers stopped getting bent over. Too impatient.

Agree with everything you said. I’m pretty sure Kyrie does not make it past the trade deadline on the Nets roster. There’s even a possibility he gets bought out at some point and joins the Lakers. Look what happened when the Rockets tried to be cute and requested a draft pick + Russ for their thrash… months later he was bought out. I’d send no more than 1 first round pick in a trade for Kyrie. I couldn’t care less what Lebron thinks. He’s looking more and more like a rental anyway so **** him.

That’s true, but if they’re doing this to try and build a championship team, then you gotta pull the trigger now. You can’t expect to integrate someone like Kyrie at the trade deadline and make a deep run. The trade deadline is for tweaking the role players imo.

If you don’t plan on going all in this season, then don’t do anything. Lebron will pass Kareem and bounce, Westbrook will be off the payroll, and it will be AD and a bunch of G leaguers left. Ultimately AD will ask for a trade and then it’s rebuild for 5-8 years.

[danfantastk32]

That’s true, but if they’re doing this to try and build a championship team, then you gotta pull the trigger now. You can’t expect to integrate someone like Kyrie at the trade deadline and make a deep run. The trade deadline is for tweaking the role players imo.

We did it with Pau Gasol. As well, it's worth something that Kyrie and Lebron have 3-4 years together already.

It is true that it would be better to have him whole year, but given his past....he's likely to decide in a season or two that he belongs in Miami. That has to, has to, has to be factored in, when tossing picks around. We'd already be taking on a 3-year bloated contract along with Kyrie. If you had to bet your car on who's here longer.....I really can't say Kyrie.

If I thought this was a legit (like really legit) shot at a title....I think I'd be a little more in on the risk. But I think this makes us a 2nd round exit. Once we face the cream...we'll get bounced. Yeah there's always a chance....but I'm not tossing a bunch of picks in for an outside "punchers chance" .....especially when we're the only one bidding (red flag in itself).

[tdfoss1]

Lakers receive: Kyrie Irving, Josh Richardson
Spurs receive: Russell Westbrook, 2027 1st (LAL)
Nets receive: 2029 1st (LAL), 2028 pick swap (LAL)

Would bring the Nets $13M under the luxury tax and give them a $36M TPE

Per NBC sports, the Nets are asking for 1 first-round unprotected pick. So you want to give 2 and a swap? I think the only reason this hasn't been done, is because Rob wants to keep that first in a package for another player (Hield). Also, if Kyrie leaves with LeBron this summer, we don't have that pick for future trades, and next year's free-agent market is not very good. Kyrie is a much better fit than Russell, I would like the trade to go down and I hope it eventually will, but 2 firsts for a potential rental is a bad trade.

[Karmaloop]

Lakers receive: Kyrie Irving, Josh Richardson
Spurs receive: Russell Westbrook, 2027 1st (LAL)
Nets receive: 2029 1st (LAL), 2028 pick swap (LAL)

Would bring the Nets $13M under the luxury tax and give them a $36M TPE

That's probably the cleanest trade for all parties.

[Karmaloop]

The Lakers would still have a 1st in 2023 (NOP/LAL), 2024/2025 (whichever doesn't go to NOP), and 2026. A lot can change in a year as we saw with Kawhi Leonard and LeBron is going to be a free agent next summer. Windhorst also just leaked that LeBron "couldn't care less" about the Lakers 2029 1st round pick.

The problem is they're not tradeable until after they're used. Trading both the '27 and '29 FRPs pretty much completely hampers the Lakers' ability to make deals unless teams are willing to accept SRPs instead.

[jrj202]

The Lakers would still have a 1st in 2023 (NOP/LAL), 2024/2025 (whichever doesn't go to NOP), and 2026. A lot can change in a year as we saw with Kawhi Leonard and LeBron is going to be a free agent next summer. Windhorst also just leaked that LeBron "couldn't care less" about the Lakers 2029 1st round pick.

The problem is they're not tradeable until after they're used. Trading both the '27 and '29 FRPs pretty much completely hampers the Lakers' ability to make deals unless teams are willing to accept SRPs instead.

They can be moved on draft night, just not before. Realistically though the Lakers have very rarely built through the draft and even without premium draft capital you guys will attract star talent.

If you guys land Kyrie you basically flipped Kuzma, Harrell, a late first, and two future firsts into a top 20 player in his prime within 12 months.

[Karmaloop]

They can be moved on draft night, just not before. Realistically though the Lakers have very rarely built through the draft and even without premium draft capital you guys will attract star talent.

If you guys land Kyrie you basically flipped Kuzma, Harrell, a late first, and two future firsts into a top 20 player in his prime within 12 months.

That's the issue. They're not functional until a later point in time. That's why New Orleans wanted the picks the way they did. They didn't want the Lakers making further moves. And it's not necessarily draft picks that the Lakers value, but the fact that they can utilize them in a trade to get more win-now pieces. Let's say hypothetically the Lakers manage to flip Westbrook and both FRPs for Kyrie Irving. If they want to make another deal like THT/Nunn for Hield, they'll need teams to be willing to do that for SRPs.

[TheHartBreakKid]

I'm not going to say the Kyrie deal is a sure thing...you honestly never know. But I will confidently say that the Lakers have a backup Westbrook trade lined up if the Kyrie deal falls through. It's hard for me to see Westbrook playing another minute as a Laker after all of this.

[chefy]

lol nah knowing the FO, wouldnt be surprised if they don't have a "backup WESTBROOK trade" and we get a surprise news flash of Kyrie getting traded to the Heat.

[tamaraw08]

lol nah knowing the FO, wouldnt be surprised if they don't have a "backup WESTBROOK trade" and we get a surprise news flash of Kyrie getting traded to the Heat.

Kobe love this team and would not recommend Rob if he thinks this guy is too dumb to have any contingencies initial plans don’t materialize. When Kawhi tried to stiff him by making him wait, he went to work and signed 3&D players like Danny Green, KCP, Avery Bradley, Caruso to complement his superstars and it worked.
The problem now is the team over the cap, no tradable assets, Jeannie setting budget restrictions, Lebron and Rich Paul pressuring him to sign Klutch clients, a 47 million player who is a bad fit and a very brittle superstar whom you don’t know if he can give you 60 games.

[danfantastk32]

lol nah knowing the FO, wouldnt be surprised if they don't have a "backup WESTBROOK trade" and we get a surprise news flash of Kyrie getting traded to the Heat.

Kobe love this team and would not recommend Rob if he thinks this guy is too dumb to have any contingencies initial plans don’t materialize. When Kawhi tried to stiff him by making him wait, he went to work and signed 3&D players like Danny Green, KCP, Avery Bradley, Caruso to complement his superstars and it worked.

I agree. I'm not the biggest Pelinka fan, but I think he's at least alright. We may not have a back up plan. Seems like everyone wants to get picks out of us. It was Wall & pick(s).....and then they just waived him. So no....they didn't value Wall....they just figured they could get picks from the desperate Lakers. We're the guy at the bar who reeks of desperation.....we need to just chill.

If the Kyrie thing doesn't happen, then it doesn't happen. F** it, I say. They're not getting picks. I don't care if there's a different deal or not. We're done tossing picks in. If Nets want us to take Harris or Royce O'Neal's contract....fine.

Honestly, I don't think I even want Kyrie signed long-term. He's "unstable".....a fair way to put it. If Lebron walks, I certainly don't want Kyrie locked up. So I don't blame Rob or Jeanie at all if this falls apart, and he ends up at Miami, or whatever. In that case, we just get through another year with brick-boy, and then we part ways....but we keep our picks. Maybe trade them for something better.

Let the Nets deal with Kyrie. If he really wants to be a Laker, and holds strong....they'll come wanting to do fair business eventually. Until then, I think we look for other Westbrook deals....and I say we pull the trigger, should something decent come up.

[Danny Darko]

the pacers deal seems better. 2 decent players on a team badly in need of depth vs just one almost never reliable weirdo rental... ?

[BEazy]

Westbrook's Lakers jersey is 50% off. This trade is happening.

[danfantastk32]

the pacers deal seems better. 2 decent players on a team badly in need of depth vs just one almost never reliable weirdo rental... ?

Yeah, as long as we're not throwing picks in, I agree.

[danfantastk32]

Westbrook's Lakers jersey is 50% off. This trade is happening.

Ha! Those little "tells". If true, yeah....sounds like he's already out. Kinda bush-league to 50% off the jersey. Just take em off the rack, and be done with it. Sell some kid a Westbrook jersey, knowing he's on his way out is pretty low...but I guess there's the "collectable" aspect. I'm sure someone liked him.

My fingers are crossed. Hopefully it's not a deal that's gonna drive me nuts. Given how fast it happened (if it did) I assume we caved and gave a pick or two. Maybe I'll be happily surprised, and my faith in the FO restored!

[SlimShady83]

Net's aren't taking on Westbrook with out getting Picks back ... Lakers aren't willing to trade picks

Why can't Lakers now go and try for the Turner/Hield deal, hope It's still on offer and not too late

F Irving, let him come via Free agent