Trades

[SlimShady83]

I'll take anybody but Lonzo, including the ball boys and their girlfriends.
I guess I was traumatized when I spent hard earned money to watch him play for the Lakers then boom, he was out for a bum shoulder or something.

Don't worry I don't want Lonzo either, was just making the trades work on spotrac

[SlimShady83]

I just learnt something new, If a team has enough $$ to absorb a players salary you don't have to Include other players In a trade, can actually just ask for pics, but only If said team like the Bulls have the $ to do so. Look at that, learning something new - now just need to find out If Bulls have the $$$ to do just that?

[danfantastk32]

I just learnt something new, If a team has enough $$ to absorb a players salary you don't have to Include other players In a trade, can actually just ask for pics, but only If said team like the Bulls have the $ to do so. Look at that, learning something new - now just need to find out If Bulls have the $$$ to do just that?

Since there is a floor cap in the league now as well.....I doubt any team has the ability to simply absorb the salary of a max player like AD. So almost assuredly, you'd have to take players back. Maybe in the offseason, if they happened to just lose a high-paid player.

But this can go two ways: you can take back some younger talent you'd want......or, you could go ahead and take back stinker contracts. Maybe by doing that, you could get 4 picks, instead of 3.

For what it's worth...I think the Bulls are much more interested in starting over. Not a rebuild, per se...but getting rid of some/all their big contracts, and focusing on the younger (cheaper) players. I'm not sure they are interested in giving up a bunch of picks, or taking AD back in matching salary. They would prob be a team that might be willing to give up 2 second round picks in a trade with DLo...for someone with 3 years left. Which would work for us, if we went full rebuild...cause we'd need to keep our min salary anyhow.

[danfantastk32]

Where I see us getting the most in return for AD is a team that just needs that punch to break out into the #1 team. Take the T-Wolves for example: They are a playoff team, but a ways off from actually winning it.

I don't know much about that team, so things might get shuffled around a bit, but here's the general idea: They have a guy named Jaden Mcdaniels, who has a 5 year contract about $24mil...ending a little over $30. Dude's bringing in 9 points, an 43% shooting. Getting 30 minutes a game too...so that's pretty crap. So you take him, and his $24mil contract...you throw Julius Randle who's got 2 years, and you give them AD. Massive upgrade for them....takes a bad - long contract off their hands (granted 5 years is damn long...I'd prefer less, but you do what ya gotta do). Maybe throw in DLo.....and now they can drop a few extra things, like the 11mil they are giving Conley, who's ancient...and has a 2 year deal.

So not only have you massively upgraded their roster in the immediate, but you've also opened up the flexibility for them to go out next offseason and make that $20-25mil upgrade. Hell....maybe you go 3-way, and move DLo to a third team who sends a player that Minn wants, and you take Minn's bad contract. This is where I'd like to see the Lakers get clever. AD could be even more valuable than just his skills, if done right, to the right team.

Now I don't know what Minn's pick situation is, and this was just an example.

Another one would be the Bucks. Throw AD and DLo for Khris Middleton, Brook Lopez, Pat Connaughton (whoever the hell that is)....make the Bucks a 3headed monster. AD's contract ends right about time Damian's does. What the bucks do afterwards, is their problem. Again....don't know the bucks pick situation...I assume they prob used them getting Dame. But concept remains the same.

[danfantastk32]

Another interesting one would be Houston. They don't have the picks that OKC does (nobody does) but they do have a few younger players. Prob could get 2 picks and 2 younger players.

Houston currently sits behind OKC for 2nd in the west (amazing that.....the two rebuild teams)...so getting a guy like AD would make them favorites. Houston also has serious title 'blue balls'. I think they'd jump at it. They are a little heavy with younger Centers and PF's but AD would be a massive upgrade over Dillon Brooks. Dillon Brooks, one or two younger guys, and picks? Certainly don't want Brooks. We'd have to 3-way trade that douche bag.

Still think OKC is our best partner. They are bursting with picks....and are poised right there for a title. My only concern with them would be that they might say "nah....we're good".

[danfantastk32]

And I think GSW trades Wiggans and a FRP (prob need a filler contract or two as well) for Lebron. Would Lebron be willing? It's a quick flight back to LA....he'd play with Curry. I think if AD was moved, he'd prob do it.

[SlimShady83]

Until I hear news real news that Davis wants out, I'm done with the AD trade talks haha, so In the mean time I'm "Reloading" the team around AD and using the pics If need - like the Lakers will be come Dec 15, ok maybe not that early, sometime after.

[danfantastk32]

Well the Lakers need to focus on whats good for the Lakers. It shouldn't matter what AD wants or doesn't want at this point. They aren't delivering anything but .500 basketball.

[stan francisco]

Personally, I think the idea of trading AD at all is very unwise.

I’d even try to trade LBJ to the Cavs long before I thought about ever trading AD. He’s one of the best defensive big men in the history of the game. You don’t trade that once you have it.

Once Bron retires, build around the brow!

[danfantastk32]

Personally, I think the idea of trading AD at all is very unwise.

I’d even try to trade LBJ to the Cavs long before I thought about ever trading AD. He’s one of the best defensive big men in the history of the game. You don’t trade that once you have it.

Once Bron retires, build around the brow!

He'll be 34 by then. Build around a 34-year old big with an injury rap sheet half a mile long?? That seems unwise to me.

[loveshaq007]

The best trade we should do,

trade LeBron, bronny, wood, Maxwell... for butler, JJ, and love

Well two issues: Lebron has a no-trade clause. The Lakers can make it ugly, and force him out...which would be weird, and prob a huge mistake down the line. So I don't think that will happen. 2nd....this trade sorta makes this about moving Lebron. Again, your gonna get in a weird tit-for-tat with the guy.

Just tell them that it's time to rebuild! Simple. Clean. No hard feelings...but the window has closed. Sure, it might sting a little...ego's will be bruised....but it has been .500 for 4 years. I mean, everyone in the NBA knows the Lakers aren't doing anything this year either. This is all just standard NBA business.

And it's what we really need to do anyhow.

he gets to go back to a team that is familiar with, with the best coach... BAM, and herro ....better team and in the east!

[danfantastk32]

The best trade we should do,

trade LeBron, bronny, wood, Maxwell... for butler, JJ, and love

Well two issues: Lebron has a no-trade clause. The Lakers can make it ugly, and force him out...which would be weird, and prob a huge mistake down the line. So I don't think that will happen. 2nd....this trade sorta makes this about moving Lebron. Again, your gonna get in a weird tit-for-tat with the guy.

Just tell them that it's time to rebuild! Simple. Clean. No hard feelings...but the window has closed. Sure, it might sting a little...ego's will be bruised....but it has been .500 for 4 years. I mean, everyone in the NBA knows the Lakers aren't doing anything this year either. This is all just standard NBA business.

And it's what we really need to do anyhow.

he gets to go back to a team that is familiar with, with the best coach... BAM, and herro ....better team and in the east!

Well I'm not sure what this does for either team, or for Lebron. Let's ignore for a minute that Lebron has set his roots in LA, which is 3000 miles from there, and would actually be totally ok playing in Miami for 2-3 years.....what does it get him? They are a .500 team like us, and without Butler, you'd essentially be in the exact same situation. Yeah, he's a prob still better than Butler, but not my a meaningful stretch. So they'd improve a little...but I just don't know that it does anything for him, or the Heat.

Same goes for us....what are we meant to do with a 35year old Butler, a 36 year old Love, and this Jamie Jaquez Jr? I assume your thinking he's gonna turn into a good player, and thats the "value" here? You may be right.

I see Miami as the slight loser in the trade, and they would be a big loser if this Jaquez guy turned into a good player. We are sending them a few younger guys as well, but this trade doesn't move the needle in either direction...so why would either do it, unless Lebron really wanted to go there?

Maybe you have additional info/reason? But I just don't see this doing much either way. And I think Lebron's gonna want to think he's going someplace to contend, and I think it would have to be somewhere very close. Phoenix, GSW, Clippers, something like that. Phoenix and SF are less than an hour flight.

[danfantastk32]

I'm prob the only one hoping and praying....but I saw an ESPN snippet with an analyst saying GS NEEDS to go try and get Lebron in the trade window. They are currently #1 in the Pacific. Both Curry and Lebron have been playing public grab-A$$ for a few years. I think this is the sort of situation Lebron would be into. Especially if sat down and given the "we're going rebuild" talk.

They don't have a ton of picks, which is where this gets tricky. I'm not a GSW specialist...so maybe there are a couple young players we'd be into getting? But otherwise I think we do something like take Wiggins, Melton, and Looney. They have alot of players in that $8-14mil range..so whatever they want to get rid of. And then we get ATL 2026 2nd round pick, and GS's 2028 FR-pick.

Dunno....feels a little like things are aligning here. Fingers crossed. It's the destination that makes by far the most sense for Lebron, based on proximity, the fact that they are playing pretty good, and his man-crush with Curry. I think Lebron is still a pretty major upgrade to Wiggins....and while I doubt they win a title...I think it puts them in the conversation. I think GS would love to be back in the spotlight, and have a semi-legit go one more time with Curry.

The window opens in like 8 days....I hate to say it, but I'm hoping the Lakers somehow lose out the next 3 games (will be hard to lose to Portland) and the reality of the situation finally hits all involved. This team is just spiraling. 4+ years of .500 basketball, with 3 coaches. It needs to end, and the Lakers need to reset.

Fingers crossed.

[loveshaq007]

no way for that package... but ..

Melton, Payton, looney, Kyle, kuminga, trace FRP, and 4 second round pics for LeBron, bronny, Maxwell, Hood, wood, ( if we can skip in more salary... that be great)

[danfantastk32]

no way for that package... but ..

Melton, Payton, looney, Kyle, kuminga, trace FRP, and 4 second round pics for LeBron, bronny, Maxwell, Hood, wood, ( if we can skip in more salary... that be great)

I don't think your gonna get that much for a guy who's 90% gonna give you 1 - 1/2 seasons. Your more likely to only get this half season, as you are to get more.

I mean, hey....if they can pull it off, then great. But GS is in a very similar situation, but worse, in that they don't have an AD to get multiple picks for. Once Curry and Draymond call it a career...it's rebuild from scratch for them. So I doubt your gonna get too much Youth/Picks here. On top of that, you gotta know that once AD gets traded to OKC (that's right....im willin' it) that Lebron's value becomes even less. A team like GSW will prob look at the situation and say "whats the point" and scrap it. Why give up picks at that point, you know? Lebron has a no trade clause. So he's in complete control. The 2nd year option is his. If he gets the call from Curry, and he's telling him "get over here and we can do this!" and we agree to somehow make it look like we wanted to move Lebron...I think he would accept it. Which is why moving AD first is a good move. Takes all the blame from Lebron.

But like I said.....if AD goes to Houston, or to OKC, I don't think the Warriors are gonna spend too much for anyone at that point. Especially not tons of picks. Picks they know are gonna be crucial moving forward. Which is why I think the main move here is AD. Get AD somewhere for a big package in return...and then anything we can get for Lebron is absolute gravy.

Same with DLo. Try and get a longer (3 year-ish) contract back, and snake a couple 2nd rounders, or even maybe a first if that team is horribly strapped. All gravy.

[Kilroy]

Do it Mitch!

[SlimShady83]

Do it Mitch!

Yeh Mitch do It, go get Kessler/Richards

[loveshaq007]

no way for that package... but ..

Melton, Payton, looney, Kyle, kuminga, trace FRP, and 4 second round pics for LeBron, bronny, Maxwell, Hood, wood, ( if we can skip in more salary... that be great)

I don't think your gonna get that much for a guy who's 90% gonna give you 1 - 1/2 seasons. Your more likely to only get this half season, as you are to get more.

I mean, hey....if they can pull it off, then great. But GS is in a very similar situation, but worse, in that they don't have an AD to get multiple picks for. Once Curry and Draymond call it a career...it's rebuild from scratch for them. So I doubt your gonna get too much Youth/Picks here. On top of that, you gotta know that once AD gets traded to OKC (that's right....im willin' it) that Lebron's value becomes even less. A team like GSW will prob look at the situation and say "whats the point" and scrap it. Why give up picks at that point, you know? Lebron has a no trade clause. So he's in complete control. The 2nd year option is his. If he gets the call from Curry, and he's telling him "get over here and we can do this!" and we agree to somehow make it look like we wanted to move Lebron...I think he would accept it. Which is why moving AD first is a good move. Takes all the blame from Lebron.

But like I said.....if AD goes to Houston, or to OKC, I don't think the Warriors are gonna spend too much for anyone at that point. Especially not tons of picks. Picks they know are gonna be crucial moving forward. Which is why I think the main move here is AD. Get AD somewhere for a big package in return...and then anything we can get for Lebron is absolute gravy.

Same with DLo. Try and get a longer (3 year-ish) contract back, and snake a couple 2nd rounders, or even maybe a first if that team is horribly strapped. All gravy.

we should push for dray... and the NBA is a business at the end of the day and having LeBron means you have the prize child of the game, in just one season. the ticket sales would go crazy and easily enough for his salary. and this is about appeasing their star player who has given them everything. I don't see why we cannot get that done. after further contemplation the trade I would go with is...

Melton, Payton, Dray looney, Kyle, kuminga, and 4 second round pics for LeBron, gabe, vando, bronny, Maxwell, Hood, wood.!!!!!

That is the trade!!! We would get better by the mere desire for winning in this game and with defensive minded players. they would get better by making a splash in the free agent market they still got their youth with Curry and LeBron and pod, and trayce

[danfantastk32]

we should push for dray... and the NBA is a business at the end of the day and having LeBron means you have the prize child of the game, in just one season. the ticket sales would go crazy and easily enough for his salary. and this is about appeasing their star player who has given them everything. I don't see why we cannot get that done. after further contemplation the trade I would go with is...

Melton, Payton, Dray looney, Kyle, kuminga, and 4 second round pics for LeBron, gabe, vando, bronny, Maxwell, Hood, wood.!!!!!

That is the trade!!! We would get better by the mere desire for winning in this game and with defensive minded players. they would get better by making a splash in the free agent market they still got their youth with Curry and LeBron and pod, and trayce

I think they will want to keep Draymond....and he's an integral part of that team. But yes, I'm in complete agreement with the concept your going with. I'll take a lesser package back too......whatever makes the deal happen. Perhaps by letting them keep Dray, and instead taking Wiggins (or even something worse, if it can work out salary-wise) we pull off a FR-pick and 3 2nd-rounders? Who knows. But I think we at least agree on the concept here.

[danfantastk32]

And now there is an article with Windhorst that talks about the Warriors wanting Lebron. 2nd article in 2 days...I'm telling ya!

Huge issue Windy brings up though: The Lakers are like $40k from the 2nd apron, and the Warriors are like $500k. So those trades are gonna have to match PERFECT. That's a problem.