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Jetset · Post #21 » by **Jetset** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:56 am

So now when I give you examples of just how Metta hasn't been "kept under wraps" it's not about what he says or how he acts, it's about his game. Nice one.

And I don't know if Beasley ever reaches what his full potential entails, but I'd be willing to give it a shot for the right price.

Father Time · Post #22 » by **Father Time** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:58 am

Starting lineup would be great with Sessions/Beasley, bench would still suck though.

Jajwanda · Post #23 » by **Jajwanda** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:00 am

Jetset wrote:So now when I give you examples of just how Metta hasn't been "kept under wraps" it's not about what he says or how he acts, it's about his game. Nice one.

And I don't know if Beasley ever reaches what his full potential entails, but I'd be willing to give it a shot for the right price.

..... Ya but you can't take the stupid things Metta says as a real problem. They're almost insignificant. It's what he does on the court that I'm talking about. Metta is trying, I haven't seen him quit. He just sucks right now even in shape.

Jetset · Post #24 » by **Jetset** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:13 am

So calling out your head coach even though you're the worst player on the team by far isn't a real problem and insignificant? Artest hasn't had an incident on the court since his Pacer days, so he hasn't needed anyone to keep him "under wraps". Stop trying to twist your words, you meant Kobe keeping Artest in line as a mentor type. And when I gave you examples of how Kobe hasn't done anything you try to switch it to on the court talk. Just accept that Kobe isn't the manipulator that you perceive him to be and leave it at that.

And as far as I'm concerned your actions on the court and in interviews shouldn't differ. They both pertain to basketball and should be approached in a professional manner.

Draper · Post #25 » by **Draper** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:18 am

lalball81 wrote:Starting lineup would be great with Sessions/Beasley, bench would still suck though.

Yeah, but then you could balance the terrible bench lineup with some starters.

Fisher/Blake
Goudeluck
Beasley
Murphy
Pau/Drew

OR

Fisher/Blake
Goudeluck
Barnes
Beasley
Pau/Drew

Post #26 » by **j127** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:22 am

Also from the article:

Lots of teams are calling Toronto about Jose Calderon and Andrea Bargnani. The Raptors aren't likely to part with Bargnani, and if they move Calderon, they'll need to get a point guard in return. That would seem to make a trade for Calderon unlikely.

I hope the Lakers are one of the teams who are calling about Calderon. Ignore the part about the Raptors needing a point guard in return. What is Broussard talking about? If the right deal came around, the Raptors don't need a PG in return. We're perfectly capable of relying on the hall of fame trio of Bayless-Barbosa-Carter!

Jajwanda · Post #27 » by **Jajwanda** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:24 am

Jetset wrote:So calling out your head coach even though you're the worst player on the team by far isn't a real problem and insignificant? Artest hasn't had an incident on the court since his Pacer days, so he hasn't needed anyone to keep him "under wraps". Stop trying to twist your words, you meant Kobe keeping Artest in line as a mentor type. And when I gave you examples of how Kobe hasn't done anything you try to switch it to on the court talk. Just accept that Kobe isn't the manipulator that you perceive him to be and leave it at that.

And as far as I'm concerned your actions on the court and in interviews shouldn't differ. They both pertain to basketball and should be approached in a professional manner.

I'm not accepting anything because first of all when did I define off the court as part of being kept under wraps. I didn't care about that from he beginning.

Here's what I'll set on the table:

I think Kobe can put Michael Beasley's work ethic, preparation for the game, and overall focus on another level.

I think that Kobe has made Metta a smarter player in terms of the shots he takes. I think Metta has been very solid at putting in the extra work at practice. He just sucks that's it.

On the court Kobe has kept Metta in the right mindset. Now whether you want to define what he says or what this says to be my argument it doesn't really matter. I don't care about what he says and don't consider that to be a part of keeping him under wraps.

Jetset · Post #28 » by **Jetset** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:28 am

Ok, so where exactly did he need to be kept under wraps at? Because it wasn't on the court. Artest was playing fine in Houston.

Asianiac_24 · Post #29 » by **Asianiac_24** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:29 am

terryoh wrote:Also from the article:
Lots of teams are calling Toronto about Jose Calderon and Andrea Bargnani. The Raptors aren't likely to part with Bargnani, and if they move Calderon, they'll need to get a point guard in return. That would seem to make a trade for Calderon unlikely.

I hope the Lakers are one of the teams who are calling about Calderon. Ignore the part about the Raptors needing a point guard in return. What is Broussard talking about? If the right deal came around, the Raptors don't need a PG in return. We're perfectly capable of relying on the hall of fame trio of Bayless-Barbosa-Carter!

Blake, Fisher, Morris, take your pick lol. All 3 are garbage anyways

Jajwanda · Post #30 » by **Jajwanda** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:31 am

How about jacking up enough shots to lose the latter part of the series for Houston against L.A.? Does Artest do that anymore? No.

Waynelu90 · Post #31 » by **Waynelu90** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:34 am

Beasley in California. I'm sure he'll love the marijuana all around.

Jetset · Post #32 » by **Jetset** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:35 am

Jajwanda wrote:How about jacking up enough shots to lose the latter part of the series for Houston against L.A.? Does Artest do that anymore? No.

Didn't Artest have to carry that team because Yao and everyone else was injured?

Post #33 » by **TyCobb** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:36 am

Back to B-Easy.

Wavy Q · Post #34 » by **Wavy Q** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:39 am

Don't want Beasley, this Kobe changes players thing is overstated, Beasley is a knucklehead who will never reach his potential. He has the same mentality Josh Smith does, has all the physical tools but wants to take nothing but 18 foot jumpers. Pass.

Jetset · Post #35 » by **Jetset** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:43 am

I like how you re-sized that stop sign just to make a point, TyCobb. Discussions branch off all the time, no one posts a stop sign for those.

Stephano wrote:Don't want Beasley, this Kobe changes players thing is overstated, Beasley is a knucklehead who will never reach his potential. He has the same mentality Josh Smith does, has all the physical tools but wants to take nothing but 18 foot jumpers. Pass.

Jajwanda · Post #36 » by **Jajwanda** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:58 am

Regardless, there is one problem with adding Beasley. That TPE is really the best way to get Sessions.

hoops_32 · Post #37 » by **hoops_32** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:03 am

If we can get Beasley for the TPE I would follow it by trading Blake,Walton,and Morris for Calderon.Calderon is a better PG than Sessions and has a great AST/TO ratio which would help solve our turnover problems. He is also good friends with Gasol which is important since we would be keeping Pau with these two trades and chemistry would be improved. While these aren't major moves we improve at PG,SF,and bench which are all weaknesses.

PG-Calderon/Fisher
SG-Bryant/Barnes
SF-Artest/Beasley
PF-Gasol/McRoberts
C-Bynum/Murphy

laduane1 · Post #38 » by **laduane1** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:20 am

Anyone is an upgrade. I do not give up first round picks in the deal. I think they can be used around draft time to move up in a off season deal. Keep Pau and use the TPE would be the best deal.

ennui · Post #39 » by **ennui** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:44 am

laduane1 wrote:Anyone is an upgrade. I do not give up first round picks in the deal. I think they can be used around draft time to move up in a off season deal. Keep Pau and use the TPE would be the best deal.

I like this.

Gek · Post #40 » by **Gek** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:52 am

Jajwanda wrote:I don't know about that Jet. We've kept Metta under wraps for a while and this guy is pretty young. I think Kobe would be exactly what he needs. I like one thing about Beasley, unlike Derrick Williams he has lateral quickness for defense on the perimeter, he just hasn't committed to it.

Metta is a ticking time bomb without Jackson, dude.